September 2004 Weekly Fireside Newsletters

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 05 September 2004 

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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We hope you all have had a safe and happy holiday. 

We had a great time with the Trivia Quiz  Thursday and Friday.  I hope those who were there learned a little something.  I thank RebelRouser1863 for sharing the Trivia with us.  Some of the Women in the Civil War who were mentioned included A. Clara Harris, Laura Keane (real name Mary Moss), Frances Day, Annie Etheridge (aka "Michigan Annie"), Dr. Elizabeth Blackwell (First female MD in the US), Mary Ann Ball Bickerdyke, Dorothea Dix, Belle Boyd and many others.   

This Thursday and Friday are our Song, letters, and poems nights, when we read s, l & p written during and about the war.  If you have any you'd like to share, send them to any of the hosts...  HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia or HOST RL DsRoots.  

We hope you'll join us.  

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword:  Civil War Chat Schedule    On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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This Poem is written by:  Col. Alonzo William Slayback b. 4 Jul. 1838 d. 1882-murdered.  
Submitted by Holm Hogs for the "Fireside's" enjoyment. : 

THE BURIAL OF SHELBY'S FLAG

A July sun, in torrid clime, gleamed on an exile and, 
Who in suits of gray Stood in mute array 
On the banks of the Rio Grande. They were dusty and faint with their long, drear ride, And they paused when they came to the river side; 
For its wavelets divide, With their glowing tide, 
Their own dear land of youth, hope, pride, And comrades' graves, who IN VAIN had died, From the stranger's home, in a land untried. 
Above them waved the Confederate flag, with its fatal cross of stars, 
That had always been In the battle's din 
Like a pennon of potent Mars. And there curved from the crest of their leader a plume That the brave had followed in joy and gloom, : 
That was ever in sight In the hottest fight--- 
A flaunting dare for a soldier's tomb, For the marksman's aim and the cannon's boom, But it bore a charm from the hand of doom.  
Forth stepped that leader then and said, to the faithful few around: 
"This tattered rag Is the only flag 
That floats on Dixie ground; And this plume that I tear from the hat.  I wear Of all my spoils is my only share; 
And, brave men!  I swear That no foe shall dare 
To lay his hand on our standard there. Its folds were braided by fingers fair, 'Tis the emblem now of their deep despair. 
Its cause is lost.  And the men it led on many a glorious field, 
In disputing the tread Of invaders dread, 
Have been forced at last to yield. But this banner and plume have not been to blame; No exulting eye shall behold their shame; 
And these relics so dear, In the waters here, 
Before we cross, shall burial claim: And while yon mountains may bear name They shall stand as monuments of our fame. 
Tears stood in eyes that looked on death in every awful form 
Without dismay; But the scene that day 
Was sublimer than mountain storm! 'Tis easy to touch the veteran's heart With the finger of nature, but not of art,  
While the noble of soul Lose self ccontrol, 
When called on with flag, home and country to part, Base bosoms are ever too callous to start With feelings that generous natures can smart. 
They buried then the flag and plume in the river's rushing tide, 
Ere that gallent few Of the tried and true Had been scattered far and wide. 
And that group of Missouri's valiant throng, Who had fought for the weak against the strong--- 
Who had charged and bled Where Shellby led--- 
Were the last who held above the wave The glorious flag of the vanquished brave, No more to rise from its watery grave!  
PIEDRAS NEGRAS, ON THE RIO GRANDE, JULY 4, 1865. 

Thank You Deanna for your contribution    :) 

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
queston, please let us know. 

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RKat91  told me she is interested in the Ozark region.  She is interested in any information anyone might have regarding Wilson's Creek, Pea Ridge and Prairie Grove. 

NOTE from Jayne:   I've checked the internet and came up with these....  

The Battle of Wilson's Creek Official Records and Battle Description
http://www.civilwarhome.com/wilsoncreekintro.htm 

The Battle of Pea Ridge (Elkhorn Tavern)
http://www.civilwarhome.com/pearidge.htm 

Prairie Grove
http://www.civilwarbuff.org/prairie_grove.html 

I'm sure RKat91 has probably been to these sites, but I thought maybe you all would like to read about them.

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

 

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  

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From:  HOST RL Jayne

War between the States - Origin of the "Conquered Banner"
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/america/civilwar/conquered_banner.htm 

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From DaePowell

United States Civil War Center SearchURL
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/search.htm 

Maps
Battle of Fredericksburg, December 13th, 1862
Showing position of the Right Wing, C. S. A., Lt. Gl. Jackson's Corps, By Jed. Hotchkiss, T.E., 2nd Corps, Army Northern Va., Confederate.
Go to:
http://abcgenealogy.com/cgi-bin/links/jump.cgi?ID=7148     OR
http://www.abcgenealogy.com/Regional/United_States/Military/Civil_War/Maps/  

Poplar Grove National Cemetery
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/cemeteries.htm  

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From RICMA55

A Barrel of Free Genealogy and Civil War Sites
http://www.cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/mark.html#CivilWar

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Thanks to all of you who are sharing Civil War URLs with all of us!!!    PLEASE continue to send them!!! 

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST DsRoots and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com   

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html 


September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey.....  Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html  

September 4, 2004  Virginia - Civil War living history lantern tours at Meadow Farm Park just north of Richmond off I-295. Tours leave every 15 minutes 7:15-9 pm. Free. Registration required, call 804-501-5520. 

September 4 - 5  PA  - Living history encampment and demonstrations by CSA artillery at Pitzer Woods in the Gettysburg National Military Park. www.nps.gov/gett  or 717-334-1124 extension 422. 

September 11 -12 - WV  Living history, "The Siege and Capture of Harpers Ferry 1862," at the Harpers Ferry National Historical Park. Free with admission. www.nps.gov/hafe  or 304-535-6298. 

September 11 -12  MD  Living history and reenactment of the Battle of Crampton's Gap (South Mountain) near Burkittsville. 
Details: www.burkittsville1862.com . 

September 17-19  MD Anniversary activities at the Antietam National Battlefield. 
Details: www.nps.gov/anti  or 304-535-6298. 

September 26  VA   New Market Heights (east of Richmond) battle commemoration. First commemorative event at this Henrico County site. The battle featured the United States Colored Troops. Tours and more. 2 pm. www.nps.gov/rich  or 804-226-1981. 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

Sep 9 & 10 - Our special Songs, Letters and Poems nights. If you have something you would like us to read, send it to HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL DsRoots or HOST RL Magnolia.

Sep 16 & 17 - OPEN CHAT

Sep 23 & 24 -   SECESSIONVILLE originally presented by Kathy Dhalle

Sep 30 & Oct 1 - OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  


Jayne, DsRoots, IrshRose, & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
(http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm)

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 12 September 2004

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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We all hope, if you or any family and friends who are and have been in harms way are and will be safe.  Our prayers go out to all of you.  

This Thursday and Friday are OPEN CHAT, join us!!!  Bring those questions and comments with you!!!!    We had such a good time with Songs, Letters and Poems last week, we just might have a couple left over to share.  

WOW....  be sure to check out all the websites sent to us this week!!!!   

On the Sep 2nd and 3rd, we had the Women in the Civil War Trivia Quiz.  Here is a website about one of the women mentioned in the Quiz
Malinda Blalock, a.k.a Samuel Blalock, Co. F 

We hope you'll join us.  

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritage to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword:  Civil War Chat Schedule    On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

This week I received the following from eharding2@cox.net suggesting a book all of you might enjoy.

"I just finished a book which I thoroughly enjoyed and thought some of your listmembers might enjoy it. The book is Sea Wolf of the Confederacy by David W. Shaw, ISBN 0-7432-3555-X.  The book is about Lt. Charles W. Reid, who resigned his commission as a Union Midshipman to become a Lieutenant in the Confederate Navy.  An excellent book about a little known bit of history from the War."

(((Ed)))  Thanks so much for sharing!!   Now I KNOW many of you read Civil War books all the time.....  how about taking a few minutes to tell us about what you've read.  

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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These are excerpts from letters written by Private Samuel Pepper, Co. G., 95th Illinois Infantry 1862 - 1865:

Nov. 25, 1862
......Dear wife can you not believe me when I say once and for all that if I am sick I will write you or cause a letter to be written by my Capt.  I suppose you have heard rumors that some of our Pickets were shot   this is a gross falsehood    ..... Dear wife I am please with your economy in arranging the childrens duties and your household arrangement.  Now I think you had better get the door for the North door and keep in the kitchen as much as you can save in hard weather for the safety of your celler   it will be necessary to have a fire in the front room....    You asked me if you should get in debt   Let me say avoid debt as you would poisen but for necessary things   get what you need at any time if you have a friend in Waterman or Glasner.

Dec. 27, 1862
......You spoke of the high price of every thing in Belvidere   this is hard but trust in God   make your wants known to him and he will befriend you  If those whom God has given an abundance of the things of this world do not supply the lack of those families whose husbands have gone in the service of their country to suffer what our poor soldiers have to suffer   I believe that God will even curse their abundance.  I am not at all surprised that Elder Holmes has left the church.  I like your management about cooking at Mrs Nashes but I'm afraid you will over task yourself and be down sick again....

Jany 20 1863  
..... Mr Hubbard is very kind to you in letting you have a grist for which he has my sincere thanks.  It will cost you less for poison than it will to have the place carried off with rats besides when they gnaw a hole thro the floor it is always a door way for them to take entire possession   I am sorry that the sheep are without a shepard but perhaps it will be all for the best....  I was glad to see that little Annie was better   take care of her as I know you will....

March 3rd 1863
.....May the Lord show us a bright day mother   how do you get about for medicine   did you sell the watch to Chas Wright.  you must have been out of wood some time ago.   have you sold any pottatoes or have you none to part with   I shall try to get my discharge if possible.....

July 11th 1863
....I am sorry you have trouble with the calves but if you succeed in getting the lot I will have that old fence tore up for firewood and put a new board one in its place.....    I am glad you have a customer for your spare milk and one that is reliable.......

Oct 31st  1864 (11 A.M.)
.......Next is the cow   I think you had better try and keep her Thro the winter if possible. It will be the last one and your pump is better than the windlass that you had last winter.   the partition next to the hen coop can be torn out and a small load of hay got in it.  If she is cold she will be used up in many ways and in the spring we will be without a cow.  No stick to the cow...........

Decr 24th 1864
.....I think that the difficulty with our well is that there is so much sand washed into the cavity of the drill hole it is stopped up.  It cannot be that the water has failed.  I am so sorry twill make you so much work to carry your water from Bakers and to get water for Lilly too  (note:  Lilly is the cow)......  I am glad that Mr. Wright will let you have Potatoes for the coat and still hope Mary Mitchell will come to board with you..... 

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
queston, please let us know. 

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I'll leave this in another week in case someone might have some other suggestions

RKat91  told me she is interested in the Ozark region.  She is interested in any information anyone might have regarding Wilson's Creek, Pea Ridge and Prairie Grove. 

NOTE from Jayne:   I've checked the internet and came up with these....  

The Battle of Wilson's Creek Official Records and Battle Description
http://www.civilwarhome.com/wilsoncreekintro.htm

The Battle of Pea Ridge (Elkhorn Tavern)
http://www.civilwarhome.com/pearidge.htm

Prairie Grove
http://www.civilwarbuff.org/prairie_grove.html

I'm sure RKat91 has probably been to these sites, but I thought maybe you all would like to read about them.

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From:  HOST RL Jayne
War between the States - Origin of the "Conquered Banner"
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/america/civilwar/conquered_banner.htm

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From DaePowell

Ancestry.com - A Complete Civil War Pension File
http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=831&key=A890401

Ancestry.com - Southern Women in the Civil War
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=6444

NOTE from Jayne:  I had my guru, IllinoisCW, who doesn't subscribe to Ancestry try the above site to make sure non-subscribers could get to the article. He did and he read it.   He made some comments about the article I thought you might like to read.  Yes, he gave me permission to share them and, no, he is NOT anti-south and, no, is he NOT anti-north.  

"The situations suffered by the southern women were equally suffered by the northern women.  She implies that the war did not affect northern women as it did southern.  The main difference was simple.  Northern women suffered knowing, almost from the beginning, that the war was being won and the southern women suffered knowing the war was being lost.

"There are two sides to every coin and no matter what side your looking at, the other side is still part of the coin.  Heads or tails, it is still a quarter.  

(note from Jayne: Under the "Our Weekly Readings" heading, I've put excerpts from letters written home by Samuel Pepper from the book "My Dear Wife" a collection of over 100 letters, copied and edited by Frank Crawford as proof positive that women suffered on the home front, north as well as south) 

"Mrs Pepper was forced to get rid of the family milk cow that provided milk for her three young children because her husband was away at war and she was not capable of shocking the hay to provide fodder for the cow for the winter.  War was Hell on the home front too.  

Soldiers of both sides were executed because they went awol to go home to bury a child."

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From HOST RL DsRoots

Poems and Songs of the American Civil War
http://www.civilwarhome.com/poemssongs.htm

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From LaddofOhio

Treasure Ship @ National Geographic Magazine
"Lost Gold Bounty from a Civil War Ship"
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0409/feature7/index.html

In 1865 a paddle wheeler [S.S. REPUBLIC*] packing gold, silver, and post–Civil War hope went down off the coast of Georgia. Now the treasure is coming home. 

* First christened the S.S. Tennessee, this ship served [both] North and South in the Civil War. 

((((Don))))  Always glad to hear from you!!!   We appreciate the contribution! 

and also comments from An Madra Rua on this same article.

Tonight I read an interesting article in National Geographic about a CW era ship, the SS Republic that went down off the coast of South Carolina. This ship sailed in the reconstruction phase of the War, so I guess it IS later, but not by much. There are some incredible artifacts coming to light: beaustiful gold and silver coins (arrrrrrrh matey! plunder!!!!!!), ceramics, and incredibly, bolts of silk fabrics! The underwater archeology and salvage effort has just gotten underway, so who knows what will be found.

The author made this very interesting, by focussing on one of the passengers, a former Union Officer from Rutland Vermont. His account, as told through his letter is fascinating.

((((Rua))))   We appreciate all your contributions to the newsletter.  Thanks pal!!

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From Cyndis list

URL:     http://outsider226.proboards24.com/index.cgi 
TITLE:     Rebel226 Revisits Civil War History
DESCRIPTION:     Civil War Message Forum.

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From ajdlcd@earthlink.net via DdHober

The Battle of Gettysburg A Photographic Guide
www.gb1863.com

Connecticut CDVs 
http://www.geocities.com/lilnemo17325/ctcdv.html

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From DdHober

Remember the Ladies
All is Fair:  Women and the American Civil War
http://www.feminist.com/resources/artspeech/remember/rtl6.htm 

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From An Madra Rua

Abraham Lincoln's Thanksgiving Proclamation
http://holydays.tripod.com/linc.htm 

1863 Thanksgiving Proclamation
http://members.aol.com/calebj/proclamation.html

Thanks to all of you who are sharing Civil War URLs with all of us!!!    PLEASE continue to send them!!! 

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From HOST RL Wohlford

Researching Civil War Ancestors - Federal and State Sources
http://www.tulsagenealogy.org/CWAncestors.htm 

Civil War Mourning - post mortem photography
http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/mourning/photographs.html 

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST DsRoots and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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I received the following letter from one of our "old" room members...   you would probably know her by Skitsmom although she is no longer on AOL...   

Hi Jayne
I don`t know if you remember me but i`m Connie S. from Ohio? I used to come into the chat rooms and i had the names of bluegrasswoman and skitsmom. I since have been doing research on my own and found out my mother`s great grandfather served in the Civil War in Kentucky. I was blessed enough to have a copy of his pension papers along with a picture of the new civil war headstone the historical society was kind enough to help supply. little did i know the very same weekend they were having this commemorative ceremony just a few miles away from where i was at that weekend. What a bummer!
I hope you are doing o.k. I sure do miss all of you in the chat rooms. I would be interested in receiving your newsletter if that`s o.k.
Sincerely,
Connie    ;0)

I asked her if I could put note in the newsletter and in her reply, she included the following: 

I`m just so thankful and grateful i was able to get these documents! I`m staring to collect my family`s death certificates and i`m glad i did. So many to get LOL but very much worth it! A birth or death certificate in Montgomery County,Ohio (Dayton and surrounding areas) is $!6 and Greene County (Xenia, Fairborn,where i live) is $17 ! Jeez! What a bummer! HUH! Forgot, i can`t type worth a darn either LOL. 
Tell everyone i said Hello!
Your friend,
Connie

(((((((((Connie)))))))))   As I told you your note was a trip down memory lane!!!   Would love to have a "reunion" of all the chatters from days of old.....   :D  

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Hello my name is Sherry and was wanting to ask if you would know anyone who buys diarys from the civil war I have one dated 1862.If you would know anyone could you have them contact me or let me know how to contact them would be very helpful.
Thank you very much.
Sherry Thomason
lildevil1970_33@yahoo.com 

If anyone is interested please email Sherry directly for more details. 

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com   

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html 


September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey.....  Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html  

September 4, 2004  Virginia - Civil War living history lantern tours at Meadow Farm Park just north of Richmond off I-295. Tours leave every 15 minutes 7:15-9 pm. Free. Registration required, call 804-501-5520. 

September 4 - 5  PA  - Living history encampment and demonstrations by CSA artillery at Pitzer Woods in the Gettysburg National Military Park. www.nps.gov/gett  or 717-334-1124 extension 422. 

September 11 -12 - WV  Living history, "The Siege and Capture of Harpers Ferry 1862," at the Harpers Ferry National Historical Park. Free with admission. www.nps.gov/hafe  or 304-535-6298. 

September 11 -12  MD  Living history and reenactment of the Battle of Crampton's Gap (South Mountain) near Burkittsville. 
Details: www.burkittsville1862.com . 

September 17-19  MD Anniversary activities at the Antietam National Battlefield. 
Details: www.nps.gov/anti  or 304-535-6298. 

September 26  VA   New Market Heights (east of Richmond) battle commemoration. First commemorative event at this Henrico County site. The battle featured the United States Colored Troops. Tours and more. 2 pm. www.nps.gov/rich  or 804-226-1981. 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

Sep 9 & 10 - Our special Songs, Letters and Poems nights. If you have something you would like us to read, send it to HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL DsRoots or HOST RL Magnolia.

Sep 16 & 17 - OPEN CHAT

Sep 23 & 24 -   SECESSIONVILLE originally presented by Kathy Dhalle

Sep 30 & Oct 1 - OPEN CHAT

Oct 7 & 8 - (to be announced)  

Oct 14 & 15 - our Special Songs, Letters and Poems nights

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  


Jayne, Dd, Kristin & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm 

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 19 September 2004 

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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We all hope, if you or any family and friends who are and have been in harms way are and will be safe.  Our prayers go out to all of you.  

This Thursday we will tell the story of SECESSIONVILLE originally presented by Kathy Dhalle in the old Genealogy Forum. Whether we run the talk again on Friday depends on how many folks were not in the room Thursday night. We will decide Friday night after the chatters have gathered.  

Be sure to check out the websites sent to us this week.  If you've discovered a Civil War Website you find interesting, share it with us!!!!    

One of the subjects we covered this week was the preservation of our Battlefields....     Everyone needs to do his/her part in preserving these hallowed grounds.  Too many of them have been covered by shopping malls, housing developements and other sprawl.  Check their website at http://www.nationaltrust.org/index.html   You might even want to join and you can do so by going to http://www.nationaltrust.org/join/index.asp?cat=4 using the links after the "Benefits of Membership"

We hope you'll join us.  

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword:  Civil War Chat Schedule    On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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Friday night one of the chatters mentioned purchasing "Faded Coat of Blue" by Owen Parry.   You might want to do a search for the book at Amazon.com and then click on the "search inside" feature on the book and you'll be able to read a few pages.    We then found the words to the Song of the same name.


Faded Coat Of Blue 
Music and lyrics by J. H. McNaughton

My brave boy sleeps in his faded coat of blue
In a lonely grave unknown lies a heart that beats so true
He sank faint and hungry among the famished brave
And they laid him sad and lonely within a nameless grave

   No more the bugle calls oh weary one
   Rest noble spirits in their grave s unknown
   For we'll find you and know you among the good and true
   Where a robe of white is given for a faded coat of blue

He cried "Give me water and just a little crumb
And my mother she will bless you through all the years to come
And tell my sweet sister so gentle good and true
That I'll meet her up in Heaven in my faded coat of blue"

No dear one was nigh him to close his mild blue eyes
No gentle voice was by him to give him sweet replies
No stone marks the lonely sod on a lad so brave and true
In a lonely grave he's sleeping in his faded coat of blue 

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
queston, please let us know. 

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

Several things were brought to the attention of the chatters this week and I'll pass them on to you.....    all being VERY good advice. 

Several readers have told me they find their Weekly Fireside newsletters in their Spam Folder.  Kashathree has entered "CWWeeklyFireside" in her address book and it is her understanding that by doing that, the newsletter WILL go to "new mail"

DWes8825 suggested that all folks BACK UP your research BEFORE installing any updates to ANY programs, including windows.  

HOST RL DsRoots suggested it is wise to know how to backup all your family files as a GEDCOM in case your family tree computer program becomes obsolete.   

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From:  HOST RL Jayne

The September column is FINALLY up on the bitsofblueandgray.com website. There are three letters written by Samuel Pepper and preserved in a book called "My Dear Wife"  edited by Frank Crawford  
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/september2004.htm 

Genealogy and the American Civil War
http://www.illinoiscivilwar.org/cwgeneal.html

Civil War Veterams
http://www.webyfl.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=15  

History of Mapping the Civil War
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/cwmhtml/cwmintro.html 

RootsWeb Military Maillists
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/

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From DaePowell

1st  Seminole Cavalry Battalion
http://home.earthlink.net/~dawise/1stSem.htm 

While this isn't a Civil War site, it has MANY great websites where you might be able to find just the information you need.  

Linkpendium
http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/

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From HOST RL DsRoots

Peace Society in the Confederacy
http://www.civilwarhome.com/peacesocieties.htm 

More about the Peace Society   
http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/peacelst1.html 

Popular Songs During the Civil War
http://www.jsfmusic.com/Uncle_Tom/Tom_Article4.html 

Learn about the Underground Railroad: Slavery & the Civil War
http://www.cr.nps.gov/ugrr/learn_a6.htm

Civil War Jayhawkers Chain Gang
http://www.geocities.com/thomas_mcelroy/Jayhawkers.htm 

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST DsRoots and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com   

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html 

September 2  VA   Brandy Station Foundation Fall Festival at Salubria Mansion near Culpeper. Living history, house tours, music and much more. Benefits the battlefield. www.brandystation.org or 540-399-1637    
   
September 2-3  PA    Living history, Union encampment and demonstrations at the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg. 10 am-4 pm Saturday, noon-4 pm Sunday. www.nationalcivilwarmuseum.org  or 866-258-4729.    
   
September 8-10  MD   Seminar and Tour, "Antietam Revealed: Walking in Their Footsteps," with Dr. James McPherson and Dennis Frye. Detailed walks of the battlefield and other sites related to the battle plus panel discussion. Based in Chambersburg, Penn. Details: 717-264-7101 or email chaden@chambersburg.org .    
   
September 9-10 WV   Reenactment at the Droop Mountain State Park near Hillsboro. Details: www.droopmountainbattlefield.com  or 304-653-4254.    
   
September 15-17 VA   Reenactment, 140th anniversary reenactment of the Battle of Cedar Creek on the original battlefield south of Middletown. Always a big event. Details: www.cedarcreekbattlefield.org or 888-628-1864. Click for schedule..    
   
September 23 VA   Haunted History Hike on the Sailor's Creek battlefield involves activities for old and young and the Hillsman House on the Sailor's Creek Battlefield Historic State Park. Details: 434-392-3435 or www.dcr.state.va.us.    
   
September 23 PA   Seminar, "Harrisburg and Regional Civil War Sites, one of the Chambersburg Civil War Seminars. Based in Chambersburg's Four Points Sheraton. Includes bus tour. 717-264-7101 or email chaden@chambersburg.org for details.    
   
September 26  VA   New Market Heights (east of Richmond) battle commemoration. First commemorative event at this Henrico County site. The battle featured the United States Colored Troops. Tours and more. 2 pm. www.nps.gov/rich  or 804-226-1981. 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

Sep 23 & 24 -   SECESSIONVILLE originally presented by Kathy Dhalle

Sep 30 & Oct 1 - OPEN CHAT

Oct 7 & 8 - (to be announced)  

Oct 14 & 15 - our Special Songs, Letters and Poems nights

Oct 21 & 22 - (to be announced)

Oct 28 & 29 - (to be announced)   

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  


Jayne, Kristin, DsRoots & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 26 September 2004

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Our prayers go out to all of you who are, or have family and friends who are in harm's way of the weather Mother Nature has been throwing at our Southeastern part of the US.  

Thanks to HOST RL WillM who read last week Kathy Dhalle's story about Secessionville.  I hope you were able to join us.  

This week we will have OPEN chat, so bring your questions and information you've found about your Civil War ancestors.  We love to hear the stories.

Be sure to check out the websites sent to us this week.  If you've discovered a Civil War Website you find interesting, share it with us!!!!    

A couple of weeks ago we covered  preservation of our Battlefields....  This is so important, I decided to leave it in another week.   Everyone needs to do his/her part in preserving these hallowed grounds.  Too many of them have been covered by shopping malls, housing developements and other sprawl.  Check their website at http://www.nationaltrust.org/index.html   You might even want to join and you can do so by going to http://www.nationaltrust.org/join/index.asp?cat=4 using the links after the "Benefits of Membership"

We hope you'll join us.  

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *  

OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword:  Civil War Chat Schedule    On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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A SOLDIER
by Frank Benway

He laid there in a mud soaked ditch with fear and despair
The shells flew oer him with shrapnel everywhere

First a scream and then a moan as shrapnel
Tore through body and ripped out the soul

Then did the barrage slowly lift and the eerie silence sifted
But screams and moans they slowly drifted

But Bugle calls there startled sound did break the deadly silence
They told us all to stand and fight

For oer the Blood soaked field they came
There Banners high and brave

A line of grey there heads held high advanced across the gore

With trembling hands his musket rose
He aimed it at his foe and fired at the foe

Who was right, who was wrong never came to mind
Only he must fight or most 'suredly would die

The grey line staggered then it broke and 
Slowly it withdrew back over that field of red

For now he heared the loud command
Fix steel and attack

The bugle sounded out the charge and o'er the baricades they went
With muskets up they started across that that field of blood and gore

With eagles flying overhead they met us on that field
We cut and slashed and stabbed and stabbed would ere it ever end

When suddenly the earth came up and struck a mighty blow
A soft gray haze it covered him like a Quilt of down

Now when his consciousness did come for then he felt the pain
Then looked down at his shattered leg
The bone was broken and exposed against against his mangled flesh

He knew that he must move or die so slowly he did rise
His musket was but a crutch as he hobbled toward his lines

Then hands reached out and cradled him as blackness did enfold
Now when he woke an angel there was wiping of his brow
He layed there in frozen shock for heaven it must be

But consciously he did rise up 
T'was then he saw the empty space where his leg should be

T'was then he woke in a sea of sweat, the dream had shook him so
For he had been a Rebel in the same dream not so long age

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
queston, please let us know. 

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From SnowBeri

John DYER b 1826 East Berne, Albany County, New York; d Broome County, NY.   Does anyone have any info about John possibly serving?  All his children are evenly spaced except for the war period.
 
His brother, Peter, enlisted from Broome County, and served in a unit formed in Elmira.
 
Regards,
Diane Wolford (snowberi@aol.com)

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

From An Madra Rua

I found the following trivia questions on this webpage:
http://www.westward.com/club/trivia7.htm 

Can you answer them all????

1) Who painted the famous portrait of George Washington, copied in reverse on the dollar bill? 
2) What was Martha Washington's maiden name? 
3) In the painting of "Washington Crossing the Deleware" by Emanuel Leutze, what is historically wrong with the picture? 
4) What newspaper printed Washington's "Farewell Address"? 
5) On December 12 1799, Washington wrote in his diary: " Morning Snowing and abt 3 inches deep mer 28 at night." What was the significance of these words? 
6) Barely a few days after Lincolns' assassination, his son fell into the path of an oncoming train at the station. What well known personage of the day saved the boys life? 
7) What was the name of the doctor, who unknowingly tended John Wilkes Booth, after Booth had been shot, and was jailed as a co-conspirator? 
8) How did Lincoln actually earn the nickname "Honest Abe"? 
9) When did Lincoln deliver the Emancipation Proclamation? 
10) How many stars were on the American Flag when Lincoln became president? 

You can check your answers at the end of the newsletter

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From:  HOST RL Jayne

4th Regiment Michigan Cavalry
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mruddy/4thmich.htm 
Read letters sent home by Henry Albert Potter

Buffalo Soldiers & Indian Wars
http://www.buffalosoldier.net/
Civil War Forts
http://www.civilwar.com/forts.htm 

Civil War Veterans' Card File 1861-1866 Indexes
Pennsylvania
http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes&ArchiveID=17 


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From An Madra Rua

Civil War Traveler in Maryland
http://www.civilwar-va.com/maryland/md-more.html

Miller's Millinery 
www.bonnets.com
Offers you Portfolio Pattern for historically accurate 18th and 19th century head wear and accessories. Each illustrated pattern has been carefully drawn and documented using one or more original sources. Construction techniques follow original methods. Kits include patterns and materials (not trims) needed to create one item.  Kits and Patterns fit most adult medium (22") unless otherwise noted. 

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST DsRoots and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com   

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html 

October 2  VA   Brandy Station Foundation Fall Festival at Salubria Mansion near Culpeper. Living history, house tours, music and much more. Benefits the battlefield. www.brandystation.org or 540-399-1637 

October 2-3  PA    Living history, Union encampment and demonstrations at the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg. 10 am-4 pm Saturday, noon-4 pm Sunday. www.nationalcivilwarmuseum.org  or 866-258-4729. 

October 8-10  MD   Seminar and Tour, "Antietam Revealed: Walking in Their Footsteps," with Dr. James McPherson and Dennis Frye. Detailed walks of the battlefield and other sites related to the battle plus panel discussion. Based in Chambersburg, Penn. Details: 717-264-7101 or email chaden@chambersburg.org . 

October 9-10 WV   Reenactment at the Droop Mountain State Park near Hillsboro. Details: www.droopmountainbattlefield.com  or 304-653-4254. 

October 15-17 VA   Reenactment, 140th anniversary reenactment of the Battle of Cedar Creek on the original battlefield south of Middletown. Always a big event. Details: www.cedarcreekbattlefield.org or 888-628-1864. Click for schedule.. 

October 23 VA   Haunted History Hike on the Sailor's Creek battlefield involves activities for old and young and the Hillsman House on the Sailor's Creek Battlefield Historic State Park. Details: 434-392-3435 or www.dcr.state.va.us. 

October 23 PA   Seminar, "Harrisburg and Regional Civil War Sites, one of the Chambersburg Civil War Seminars. Based in Chambersburg's Four Points Sheraton. Includes bus tour. 717-264-7101 or email chaden@chambersburg.org for details. 

October 26  VA   New Market Heights (east of Richmond) battle commemoration. First commemorative event at this Henrico County site. The battle featured the United States Colored Troops. Tours and more. 2 pm. www.nps.gov/rich  or 804-226-1981. 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

Sep 30 & Oct 1 - OPEN CHAT

Oct 7 & 8 - (to be announced)  

Oct 14 & 15 - our Special Songs, Letters and Poems nights

Oct 21 & 22 - (to be announced)

Oct 28 & 29 - (to be announced)   

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  

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Answers to the Trivia Questions:

 1)  Gilbert Stuart 
 2)  Martha Dandridge Curtis 
 3)  The American Flag (as shown) was not adopted until 1777. 
 4)  "The American Daily Advertiser" printed in Philadelphia. 
 5)  They were the last words Washington ever wrote. 
 6)  Thomas Edwin Booth (brother to assassin John Wilkes Booth). 
 7)  Samuel Alexander Mudd (from which comes the expression "his name is Mudd"). 
 8)  After a business partner had died, Lincoln made sure all the debts were paid. 
 9)  January 1 1863. 
10) There were 33 stars on the flag 

Jayne, Kristin, DsRoots & Will
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