November 2004 Fireside Newsletters

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 07 November 2004 

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Be sure to check out the websites sent to us this week.  If you've discovered a Civil War Website you find interesting, share it with us!!!!    

Be sure to check out the article Steve Teeft wrote about The Civil War Preservation Trust in the "Did you Know" section. 

If any of you has a suggestion about what you'd like to see done in the rooms, please let us know.  

We hope you'll join us.  

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword: Civil War Chat Schedule <<aol://4344:3120.mdchat1.2105643.678515300>>   On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to Civil War Libraries  <<aol://4344:3120.civwrlib.2105860.680558942>>  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
<<http://www.cwbr.com/>>

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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Hunting for the last time  

My hunting dog saw him before
the rest of us could focus
 
in on the find of a century,
 
the fresh remains of a civil war soldier
had been found today,
 
causing quit a stir in this dusty textile town,
 
some would later tell me that the heavy spring rains
had probably moved the bones out in the open,
 
but it was still very strange,
that the skeleton looked very
much
as it should,
 
I approached with suspicious reverence,
for being a descendant of the rebel cause
 
I hoped it was a gray coat rather than one
of blue,
 
but it was hard to tell, and as we called the archaeologist in
from Tech,
I felt sad, almost crying in front of my fellow hunting pals,
 
for this blood sport did not appeal to me like it did,
with the advent of super scopes, deer blinds, and bullets
that will pierce through a tank,
 
I just didn't get it,
 
the rest of my party headed back to the lodge for a beer,
my son and I stayed out with the unknown,
 
He sat down beside him, and without any fanfare gathered
up some flowers from the hedgerow next to this trench,
placing them next to the forgotten one,
 
as we came to call him.
 
I put my arms around my boy, the first time I had done
so in years,
 
and whispered
Johnny that was a very nice thing you did,
he did not respond, but I could tell he was moved beyond words,
 
so I didn't press the issue,
then as we walked away towards home,
the sun began was beginning to hide on its way to
the Cumberland Gap,
 
as if dear poets, the mountains were offering the
departed and the living a tribute,
 
and I swore as I looked down once more at the skull
of the departed one,
 
I could hear him tell me,
 
"Love one another."
 
Johnny and I walked home,
and when we went out at first light the next morning,
 
the soldier was gone.  

Copyright,
William "Wild Bill" Taylor
September, 2004


I hope you all have visited the (www.bitsofblueandgray.com) and seen the collection of poems written by Mr. Taylor.  If you enjoy this one, go take a look at the rest of them.  AND there are more to come.

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your queston, please let us know.

I just want to include a note to all who have asked for help.  Sometimes I am copied on an answer and sometimes I'm not, so IF you receive an answer to your queston, please let us know.  Most respondents will put the name of the soldier or battle in the Subject line, so if you receive an answer directly, be sure you don't delete it, you may miss out on some vital information.  

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

This is so important, I'm leaving it in for another week.

From our friend Steve at (http://www.dixieresearch.com)

The Civil War Preservation Trust 

For all you Civil War enthusiast out there, I would like to tell everyone about an organization that anyone who is interested in Civil War history and the preservation of our Civil War battlefields, should take be involved with the Civil War Preservation Trust; and I will tell you why… 

Did you know that: There were more than 10,000 known Civil War battlefield sites? And out of those sites, only 384 of these sites are considered as significant turning points in our nation’s history? 
Did you know that: More than 70 of these sites are already are lost forever do to development? 
Did you know that: Fewer than 15% of these battlefields are protected? 
Did you know that: Only 20% of our American Civil War has already been destroyed? 
Did you know that:  30 acres of Civil War battlefields are destroyed each and everyday! 

Did you know that: there is only one national organization working to save all of these Battlefields – they are the Civil War Preservation Trust. The CWPT is America’s largest non-profit organization devoted to the preservation of our nation’s endangered Civil War battlefields.The CWPT has helped save & preserve more than 16,000 acres of Civil War battlefields, which covers more than 81 battlefield sites in 19 states. 18,181 acres of hallowed ground has been saved to-date. 

By becoming a member of the CWPT, will help in our efforts to save these endangered sites. By joining, you will join the ranks of the tens & thousands fellow American in preserving more than just historic battlefields, you’ll help preserve the places where American citizen soldiers struggled to create the nation we have today. With your help, these battlefields will be transformed into dynamic outdoor classrooms that will help future generations understand what it means to be an American.  

As a member of the CWPT, you will receive: 

1 year subscription (4 issues) of the CWPT’s full color magazine “Hallowed Ground”, updating you on there preservation efforts & victories as well as threatened sites. (This publication is not available anywhere else) 
A personal ID membership card 
Discounts at participating sites & selected lodging establishments 
A low interest credit card is available for those who qualify. A percentage of the interest goes towards Civil War preservation. 
Avis Car rental discounts 
All memberships dues & contributions are Tax-deductible 
Classroom memberships available 
 Special teacher programs available with classroom curriculum. Interactive games 7 programs available on there website, to make learning history fun and enjoyable. These games include: Bingo, word search, crossword puzzles, coloring books, etc.
         Classroom resources, lessons plans are all apart of their teacher programs, also available on CD, provided by the CWPT.
Volunteer opportunities at sponsored events such as: Annual park day, where members help & assist in ‘hands on’ cleanup, restoration & maintenance programs. 

The Civil War Preservation Trust also promotes educational programs, tours and conferences. They are involved heritage tourism program to inform the public of the Civil War’s history and the fundamentals that sparked the conflict. 

By joining today, you can help aide in our preservation efforts. A basic membership is only $35.00. This package, you will get many extras gifts just for joining, such as a attractive window decal, and the items mentioned above. 

There are several other levels of membership in various price ranges, which will increase your gifts as well as benefits, for being a member, which are too numerous for me to mention. 

For more information regarding the Civil War Preservation Trust, the battlefields they have saved, the latest news on preservation and a listing of those Civil WAR battlefield that a lost, or destroyed, are available on their website at (www.CivilWar.org) Their teacher & classroom programs, special events, tours and talks and a large variety of everything they are involved with is also listed on this website along with there membership information, so don’t delay any longer, come join our ranks.

Help preserve our Civil War battlefield sites so future generations will be able to appreciate what our Civil War ancestors; fought, lived and died for. These sites were paid for with there blood. There legacy is depended upon us, to preserve these battlefields, to insure that their memory & deeds will always be remembered and honored, so our children and there children’s children can enjoy and appreciate what we preserve today. 

Please visit there site today and help preserve our past. Join the Civil War Preservation Trust today. You can find them at: (www.CivilWar.org)  

(Not only is my Sons of Confederate Veterans camp, the Buffalo Guards are a member, but my teaching group, the Western NY Living History Association are members as well. We are proud to say, we donate a nice sum of money for the sake of preservation. I am personally a member, and I am an advocate to pass the word on….so others like yourselves will join in our fight….)   

Thank you for your time,
Steve Teeft, Camp Commander & Historian
Buffalo Guards Camp 1975, SCV
Steve@DixieResearch.com    (http://www.DixieResearch.com)

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From Kashathree

In response to a query on a message board about my great grandfather, Gustavus Schmidt, I received the above link and found him listed.

She suggested that with the information I received there, I could now order the complete record by using the proper form available at:

Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System
(http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm)

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From GoldHobo

(http://www.usgenweb.org/mo)
Link to Civil War page for St. Francois Co., MO
Click on St. Francois Co. the Click on CW site

Lots of info on men who served, battles, diary/autobiography of SAm HIldebrand, and links to some informative sites.

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From Bitsobluengray

Battle of Brown's Mill
(http://www.battleofbrownsmill.org/)

Battle of Brown's Mill - Confederate Cemetery - Newnan, GA
(http://www.battleofbrownsmill.org/Newnanconfederatecemetery.html)
This a a list of burials at the cemetery

Rose Hill Confederate Cemetery
(http://www.geocities.com/friarluke/RoseHillConfederateCemetery.html)
Macon, GA

Complete Descriptive List or Muster Roll of the Crew of the U.S.S. Gunboat "Commodore Morris" on the Thirty first day of March 1864
(http://hub.dataline.net.au/~tfoen/morris.htm)
Roll of personnel aboard the vessel for the period; includes details of nativity, state of enlistment, age, occupation and personal description.

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From An Madra Rua

(http://www.arealdomain.com/pensioners1883.html)
1863 Pensioners Online

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST DsRoots and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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I received the following from UCMEGEEBEE

From the May 4, 1898 LaFayette Sun (Chambers County, Alabama)
Booth Died in Europe.           

Mrs. J. W. Crist, an old lady living in this city, says she assisted in the escape of Wilkes Booth, the assassin of Abraham Lincoln, and that he died a natural death in Europe.            

Mrs. Crist says her first husband was Captain Haggett, commander of the Mary Porter, a Confederate blockade runner, and that in June, two months after the assassination Captain Haggett took the murderer in his boat to Havana. Mrs. Crist being a passenger on the boat, and carried him to Nassau, a town in the Bahama Islands. She later visited the Bahamas and saw Booth there and he gave her a ring, which she now possesses. She says that it was Booth’s accomplice, Fox, who was killed and burned in a barn and who was thought to be Booth.            New York Journal.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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I'm going to put a note here to all of you have so graciously offered to help folks out.   If you no longer want to be on this list please let me know and I will take your name off the list.  I've had email telling me they've sent email to someone on the list for help, and the email was deleted before it was ever even read.   

If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@pstel.net [ Please note new address for Kevin ] does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
<<http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>>

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at <<http://www.dixieresearch.com>>  Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com  

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
<<http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html>>

November 13 MD  Living history: Point Lookout "Pilgrimage" to the former prisioner of was camp on the Chesapeake Bay near Scotland.  Historical presentations and living history throughout the day.  Ceremony honoring the prisoners at the cemetery.  All free (except food).  8 am-5 pm.  (www.plpow.com) or 757-989-1928)

November  20  PA   Remembrance Day Parade and Ceremonies in Gettysburg. 1 pm. Free. More info, 717-334-1124 extension 422 or <<www.nps.gov/gett>>. 

November  20  PA  Luminaria at the Soldiers' National Cemetery in Gettysburg, candles placed on soldier graves. Sponsored by the Friends of the National Parks at Gettysburg. 717-334-0772 or <<www.friendsofgettysburg.org>>. 

November 28 VA Lecture, "John Singleton Mosby, the Man," at the Graffiti House Visitor Center on the Brandy Station battlefield north of Culpeper. 2 pm  $5  540-727-7718

December 3 VA Holiday Open House at the Manassas Museum. Free admission and reception 5-8:30 pm. More info, (www.manassasmuseum.org) or 703-368-1873.    

December 4 WV   "Old Fashioned Christmas" for details contact the Rich Mountain Battlefield Foundation in Beverly at 304-637-RICH or email richmt@richmountain.org.    
   
December 4 MD  Annual Memorial Illumination at the Antietam National Battlefield. Details: (www.nps.gov/anti) or 304-535-6298.    
   
Be sure to check 
(http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events1204.html)
for more Holiday events    

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

Nov 11 & 12 - Our Special Songs, letters and Poems night. 

Nov  18 & 19 - OPEN CHAT

Nov  25 - Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.  Your hosts will be enjoying the Holiday with their families

Nov 26 - (to be announced)

Dec 02 & 03 - OPEN CHAT

Dec 09 & 10 - Our Special Songs, letters and Poems night.

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  

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Jayne, Kristin, DsRoots & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
(http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm)

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 14 November 2004 

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Be sure to check out the websites sent to us this week.  If you've discovered a Civil War Website you find interesting, share it with us!!!!    

You will definitely want to join us this week in the Thursday and Friday night chats this week!!!   You won't want to miss the "Nasty Little Incident of War"  From the story an excerpt from a letter Acie Ladd wrote home...   "... I have but four hours to remain in this unfriendly world.  Six of us are sentenced to die in place of six Union soldiers who were shot by Reeve's men.  My dear wife, don't grieve for me in heaven.  I will meet you in heaven."    Join us to hear the whole story.  

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword: Civil War Chat Schedule <<aol://4344:3120.mdchat1.2105643.678515300>>   On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to Civil War Libraries  <<aol://4344:3120.civwrlib.2105860.680558942>>  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
<<http://www.cwbr.com/>>

They Fought LIke Demons:  Women Soldiers in the Civil War, by Deanne Blanton and Lauren M. Cook; Vintage Civil War Library,  Vintage Books, N.Y.,2003.  Originally published in hardback by Lousiana State University, Baton Rouge in 2002.                                                                                                                                                                                                       book review by RKat91@aol.com, 11/13/2004

      The title of this book implies that the women who fought as soldiers in the Civil War were driven by a motive to "fight like demons."  When I first picked up the book at my local library, I wondered, "Why would a woman, in the 1860's, risk scandal, detection, and injury or death to fight as a soldier, disguised as a man?"  Women were not expected to fight in the front lines, nor was it considered proper for a women to do so.  I had read a bit about women who were spies, and women who enlisted as soldiers with their husbands.   I had not known there were hundreds of women who fought for a variety of reasons, with a variety of successes.

      This book thoroughly covers the subject in a scholarly manner, complete with notes, bibleography, an index, and photos.  There is enough of the scandalous incidents included to make it interesting reading.  There is enough military facts to satisfy, and the biographies are fascinating.  When I finished reading I was amazed that these women lived, and sometimes died, and so little has been written about them.  I would love to write about some of the incidents described, but it would be better if you read the book yourself! 

Thank you RKat91!!  If anyone else has read a good Civil War book, please send us a short review.

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From bitsobluengray:

   COMING SOON!     

I am honored to be able to tell you that "PROUD TO SAY I AM A UNION SOLDIER" a book of last letters home, by Frank Crawford, will soon be published. This has been a labor of love and a long time in the making.  These letters and stories about the men are very moving.      

The book will be available through (http://www.HeritageBooks.com) with a publication date expected within the next three months (or sooner), but you can order the book now.     

Several of Crawford's short stories have been published in familiar Civil War magazines.  For those of you who are regular readers of the Bits of Blue and Gray website, you have seen some of Crawford's work. There are several poems, William Black, Albert S. Rollins and John Ramsey (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/crawford.htm#1) here on the site. You can also read a couple of short stories Crawford has written; (if you'd like to know more about him you'll want to read this one)  "A NASTY LITTLE INCIDENT OF WAR" (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/july2000.htm), then there is THE ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING OF LINCOLN (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/may2003.htm), and finally MY DEAR WIFE (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/september2004.htm), includes a couple of letters from his book "My Dear Wife", a collection of the Civil War Letters of Private Samuel Pepper, Company G - 95th Illinois Infantry 1862 to 1865. Transcribed and  edited by Crawford    

PROUD TO SAY I AM A UNION SOLDIER: The Last Letters Home from Federal Soldiers Written During the Civil War, 1861 - 1865.  Franklin R. Crawford, 2004, 5 ½ x 8 ½, paper, index 272 pp.    Letters offer a deeply personal perspective of the war, and remind us that every one of the hundreds of thousands of brave men that died during the four brutal years of the Civil War was someone's father, or son, or brother, or husband.  Numerous first-hand accounts of the harsh realities of war have been published, often including or comprised of the letters of survivors.  This unique volume contains the final correspondence written by brave soldiers that did not survive: some died on the battlefield during the combat; others understood they were about to die of wounds received in battle and were able to counsel their families regarding their final dispositions.  What is the price of freedom?  Anyone that has ever asked that question should read these letters.
    
    A book like this should have been done long ago.  It's far too easy to lose sight of the individual, but Crawford brings us back to the truth:war is fought by men. These letters put a human face on the war.
    - Benton McAdams, author of Rebels at Rock Island
    
    Frank Crawford has done a wonderful job of filling a void in Civil War literature.  While many books tell the story of the Civil War through letters of the men that lived through the conflict, Crawford's book is the only one that tells the story through the eyes of the men that died in the war.  Taking a unique stance, Crawford gives you a brief background on each soldier and then lets the soldier take it from there, telling about his life through his own words. It is a sad thing to realize that each of these men, so hopeful and so full of life, would never see their loved ones again.
    - Gene Eric Salecker, author of Disaster on the Mississippi
    
    A bibliography, photographs, and an index enhance the text.  C3189

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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Albert S. Rollins
Co. B - 95th Illinois
Buried in Belvidere, Illinois City Cemetery, Illlinois after he 
resigned to find his older brother's remains

Father owns so much land in Boone County
It's been said you couldn't walk around it in a week.
All that land in Boone County - 
Why was I clear down here in Mississippi?
I often wonder where Johnny went
When he joined up.
Hope he got a good position.
Maybe even an officer on someone's staff.
Johnny could do that.
I kept thinking - no hoping -
"Father will be proud of me when this is over."
Well, Guntown, Mississippi, is where it all began to end. 
I thought I'd make it.
"Father will still be proud.
Proud to show off his son with the missing leg.
Proud to show off his son - 
     The one that fought Bedford Forrest.
Proud to say, 'Meet my son, Albert
The War Veteran' "
But infection can start any time
Any where.
That small wound in my shoulder.
The one no one noticed? 

Blood poisoning.

I hope I am not buried here in Tennessee
But taken back to Boone County.
Father owns a lo of land in Boone County

by Frank Crawford

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your queston, please let us know.

I just want to include a note to all who have asked for help.  Sometimes I am copied on an answer and sometimes I'm not, so IF you receive an answer to your queston, please let us know.  Most respondents will put the name of the soldier or battle in the Subject line, so if you receive an answer directly, be sure you don't delete it, you may miss out on some vital information.  

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

From the book:  1400 DAYS The US Civil War Day by Day by Chris Bishop, Ian Drury and Tony Gibbons

"In the late 1850's Fort Sumter was in an unfinished state, and in November 1860 $80,000 was appropriated to complete the fort which was to have had a full garrison of 650 men.  At the time of the attack upon the fort it housed three 10-inch guns which were intended to cover the salient angles.

There was also a plentiful supply of 8-inch columbiads, as well as 42-, 32- and 24-pounders, plus 8-inch sea-coast howitzers.  The top tief of guns stood some 50 feet above the parade ground and the heavy weapons were hoisted up by means of legs.  Under the roof were large iiron tanks containing the water supply for the fort.

Sumter was manned by a small Union garrison, and after a token resistance gave in to the powerful Southern fores that surrounded it.  It went on to defy massive attacks by Union forces and eventually became little better than a huge mound of rubble."

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Someone mentioned to me that they had received an email about the story behind TAPS......    I had heard two of them and we've even done one in our Civil War chatrooms, so I went searching the web and found 21,334 sites which tell the story of Taps. Three of them are below, each different than the other.   

(http://www.mamarocks.com/story_of_taps.htm)

(http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bltaps.htm) - This seems to be the most popular version, it's also said, it is NOT the "true" story.    

(http://www.fmaalumni.org/story_of_taps.html)

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From: An Madra Rua
These aren't Civil War sites, but still helpful with research. 

POLES. Learn about the oldest permanent Polish settlement in America.
  (http://www.pannamariatx.com/history.html)

GERMAN ROOTS? Ortsfamilienb?are German community historical
and genealogical books and many are now online, arranged by locality.
  (http://db.genealogy.net/ofb/map.cgi?land=deutschland)

OHIO. Hamilton County. Cincinnati. Spring Grove Cemetery;
  (selected records with ties to the Wunder surname);
  990 records; Bill Fogle
  (http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries/)

TEXAS. Montague County. Salona. Salona Cemetery;
  (selected records); 29 records; Kathy Tally
  (http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries/)

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From Bitsobluengray:

I received this thru one of the maillists I belong too.  It was posted by richburd6165@yahoo.com

"I am pleased to announce the creation of a new web site dealing with the story of hundreds of Union POWs buried in Richmond during the first two years of the war, including how new research has changed the story of what happened to them.  The site includes a list of dozens of identified burials, which will be updated as research continues.  Access it at:
(http://home.comcast.net/~shockoehill)

I hope you enjoy it.  Please let me know your feedback, comments and suggestions."

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From:  CageyCat who received this also from a maillist

(http://www.missouricivilwarmuseum.org/)
The Official Site of the Missouri Civil War Museum
MISSOURI. Civil War ancestors. Includes a portrait
gallery section under the link entitled "Gallery." Anyone can post a
story and picture about a Missouri-related Civil War person or subje

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From: DdHober

(http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/soldiers/)
Missouri  State Archives' Soldiers Database: War of 1812 - World War 1

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST DsRoots and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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I received the following from UCMEGEEBEE

From the May 4, 1898 LaFayette Sun (Chambers County, Alabama)
Booth Died in Europe.           

Mrs. J. W. Crist, an old lady living in this city, says she assisted in the escape of Wilkes Booth, the assassin of Abraham Lincoln, and that he died a natural death in Europe.            

Mrs. Crist says her first husband was Captain Haggett, commander of the Mary Porter, a Confederate blockade runner, and that in June, two months after the assassination Captain Haggett took the murderer in his boat to Havana. Mrs. Crist being a passenger on the boat, and carried him to Nassau, a town in the Bahama Islands. She later visited the Bahamas and saw Booth there and he gave her a ring, which she now possesses. She says that it was Booth’s accomplice, Fox, who was killed and burned in a barn and who was thought to be Booth.            New York Journal.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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I'm going to put a note here to all of you have so graciously offered to help folks out.   If you no longer want to be on this list please let me know and I will take your name off the list.  I've had email telling me they've sent email to someone on the list for help, and the email was deleted before it was ever even read.  

If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@pstel.net [ Please note new address for Kevin ] does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
<<http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>>

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at <<http://www.dixieresearch.com>>  Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
<<http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html>>

November  20  PA   Remembrance Day Parade and Ceremonies in Gettysburg. 1 pm. Free. More info, 717-334-1124 extension 422 or <<www.nps.gov/gett>>. 

November  20  PA  Luminaria at the Soldiers' National Cemetery in Gettysburg, candles placed on soldier graves. Sponsored by the Friends of the National Parks at Gettysburg. 717-334-0772 or <<www.friendsofgettysburg.org>>. 

November 28 VA Lecture, "John Singleton Mosby, the Man," at the Graffiti House Visitor Center on the Brandy Station battlefield north of Culpeper. 2 pm  $5  540-727-7718

December 3 VA Holiday Open House at the Manassas Museum. Free admission and reception 5-8:30 pm. More info, (www.manassasmuseum.org) or 703-368-1873. 

December 4 WV   "Old Fashioned Christmas" for details contact the Rich Mountain Battlefield Foundation in Beverly at 304-637-RICH or email richmt@richmountain.org. 

December 4 MD  Annual Memorial Illumination at the Antietam National Battlefield. Details: (www.nps.gov/anti) or 304-535-6298. 

While this one isn't Civil War I've decided to post it.

December 12 - PA Sunday, Colonial Candlelight Holiday Open House  Join Pottsgrove Manor's costumed Living Historians as they bring to life the 1764 holiday season in a traditional 18th century English fashion.  The halls will be decked with holiday greenery and arrangements reminiscent of the colonial period.  1:00 to 7:00 p.m.  No charge 


Be sure to check 
(http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events1204.html)
for more Holiday events 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

Nov  18 & 19 - "A Nasty Little Incident of War" by Frank Crawford

Nov  25 - Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.  Your hosts will be enjoying the Holiday with their families.  The room is still open so feel free to stop in if you want to.  It's just that there will be no host.

Nov 26 -OPEN CHAT

Dec 02 & 03 - to be announced

Dec 09 & 10 - Our Special Songs, letters and Poems night.

Dec 16 & 17 - Civil War Christmas

Dec 23 - OPEN CHAT 

Dec 24 - Our hosts will be spending Christmas Eve with their families.  The room is still open so feel free to stop in if you want to.  It's just that there will be no host

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  

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Jayne, Kristin, DsRoots & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm 

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 21 November 2004 

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Be sure to check out the websites sent to us this week.  If you've discovered a Civil War Website you find interesting, share it with us!!!!    

I want to thank all of you who joined us Thurs & Friday to hear our "Nastly Little Incident of War" story.  If you were unable to be in the room but would still like to read it, you can find it at  (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/july2000.htm)

I'd also like to thank HOST RL ROUNDTOP for filling in for my Thurs nite partners, Magnolia and WillM.  I can't go without thanking HOST RL Dae for stepping in to help out on Friday since DsRoots had to work at her paying job!!    Thanks guys, your help is very much appreciated!!    

This Thurs is, as you know is Thanksgiving.  The hosts will be spending time with their families.  We all wish you and yours a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING.  The room will be unlocked, so feel free to stop in, you never know who you might find there.  Friday night will be OPEN CHAT... plase join us!!!!!   

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword: Civil War Chat Schedule <<aol://4344:3120.mdchat1.2105643.678515300>>   
On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to Civil War Libraries  <<aol://4344:3120.civwrlib.2105860.680558942>>  There are many files in the library that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  
Visit the Genealogy Community Message boards
<<aol://5863:126/mBLA:56406>>

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
<<http://www.cwbr.com/>>

Sent to me by IllinoisCW:

"Triumph & Defeat"
by Terrence J. Winschel    
   
And now there are two.  It has been well established that the historian of the all important Vicksburg Campaign in the Civil War was none other than Ed Bearss.  His fame and knowledge is uncontested, or was, until now.  Terrence Winschel may, proudly, take his well deserved and hard earned place beside the legend.  With Bearss and Winchel as impetus, it would well serve the Civil War community to have a quarterly publication concerning Vicksburg that would rival if not surpass its counterpart of the battle that took place at that small village in Pennsylvania.  Terrence Winchel, Chief Historian at the Vicksburg National Military Park has put together ten great essays regarding ten different aspects of the Vicksburg Campaign.  Some of the strength of the ten essays lies with a fresh and different handling of some of the same events of that campaign. Each essay retains the accuracy of the information with a freshness of the writing.
Triumph & Defeat, published by Savas Publishing Company, begins with a concise explanation of U. S. Grant's options in taking the river town and explains fully why each of these efforts failed.  He shows us Pemberton's abilities or lack of abilities and also presents often overlooked critical problems that Pemberton suffered in his defenses of the Gibraltar of the Mississippi.  Winchel points out the place of birth of General Sherman's well know ability to destroy the land in his marches.  Not on the Meridian Campaign but on the Louisiana side of the Mississippi River, west of Vicksburg, from Lake Providence to Hard Times first saw Sherman's destructive abilities.
Essay #3, concerning the celebrated Grierson Raid, does a splendid service in the brief but accurate explanation of what the raid meant to both Grant and Pemberton.  It was here that this reviewer found that "one error" that perhaps places a hint of shadow over the entire presentation.  Lt. Colonel Reuben Loomis, 6th Illinois Cavalry, was not "killed in action later that year" but was indeed murdered by a fellow officer of the 6th Cavalry, Major Thomas G. S. Herod who was sentenced to 10 years in prison but was released in 1866 by President Andrew Johnson.
Winchel does, however, give credit to Major General Charles Hamilton who made the first suggestion to Major General Stephan Hurlbut regarding the celebrated raid. Neither is known for other major contributions to the war effort.  The expansion of the initial idea was, however, instigated by Generals Grant and Sooy Smith and thus the raid was a total success and a great hindrance to Pemberton at Vicksburg.
Following with essays on Port Gibson, Champion Hill and the Assaults on the Vicksburg works, the author continued to demonstrate his vast knowledge on the subject.  Port Gibson, a small relative "unimportant" battle in the big picture was indeed hard fought and brutal to the utmost.  The Champion Hill essay explained some of Pemberton's problems, such as defending the area with poor staff, mediocre subordinates, and late messages from staff, supply train mishaps and other mishaps.  It well may have been an impossible assignment.  Of course Joe Johnston should receive his fair share of the blame, if there is blame to be shared.
The remaining essays, all of different aspects of the complicated campaign all contribute well to an overall understanding of the event.  In the "Spades are Trump" essay may be the key to explaining Grant's actions and philosophy which seemed to be a large factor in his failure to support the tunneling endeavor later in the war near Petersburg, Virginia.  Some may read this as Grant learned from his previous mistake while others may see it as he was a slow learner.  Whichever, the Vicksburg action did indeed influence grant when he was placed in command in the east.  Rescuing Vicksburg, by the Trans-Mississippi troops, is yet another fine example of the many untold stories of the Vicksburg Campaign.  Other such stories, effort of new research, are undoubtedly present and "Western Theater historians" almost have an obligation to reveal them. 
Anyone interested in the Vicksburg Campaign or anyone wishing to know more detailed information concerning the Vicksburg Campaign must make "Triumph & Defeat" a part of their Civil War library.
   
(((((Frank))))))))   Thank you so much!!  

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I'm leaving this in again this week, just in case someone hasn't seen it.  Then I will let you all know when the book has been printed.

From bitsobluengray:

   COMING SOON!     

I am honored to be able to tell you that "PROUD TO SAY I AM A UNION SOLDIER" a book of last letters home, by Frank Crawford, is currently in production. This has been a labor of love and a long time in the making.  These letters and stories about the men are very moving.      

The book is available through (http://www.HeritageBooks.com) with a publication date expected within the next three months (or sooner), and you can order the book now.     

Several of Crawford's short stories have been published in familiar Civil War magazines.  For those of you who are regular readers of the Bits of Blue and Gray website, you have seen some of Crawford's work. There are several poems, William Black, Albert S. Rollins and John Ramsey (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/crawford.htm#1) here on the site. You can also read a couple of short stories Crawford has written; (if you'd like to know more about him you'll want to read this one)  "A NASTY LITTLE INCIDENT OF WAR" (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/july2000.htm), then there is THE ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING OF LINCOLN (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/may2003.htm), and finally MY DEAR WIFE (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/september2004.htm), includes a couple of letters from his book "My Dear Wife", a collection of the Civil War Letters of Private Samuel Pepper, Company G - 95th Illinois Infantry 1862 to 1865. Transcribed and  edited by Crawford    

PROUD TO SAY I AM A UNION SOLDIER: The Last Letters Home from Federal Soldiers Written During the Civil War, 1861 - 1865.  Franklin R. Crawford, 2004, 5 ½ x 8 ½, paper, index 272 pp.    Letters offer a deeply personal perspective of the war, and remind us that every one of the hundreds of thousands of brave men that died during the four brutal years of the Civil War was someone's father, or son, or brother, or husband.  Numerous first-hand accounts of the harsh realities of war have been published, often including or comprised of the letters of survivors.  This unique volume contains the final correspondence written by brave soldiers that did not survive: some died on the battlefield during the combat; others understood they were about to die of wounds received in battle and were able to counsel their families regarding their final dispositions.  What is the price of freedom?  Anyone that has ever asked that question should read these letters.
    
    A book like this should have been done long ago.  It's far too easy to lose sight of the individual, but Crawford brings us back to the truth:war is fought by men. These letters put a human face on the war.
    - Benton McAdams, author of Rebels at Rock Island
    
    Frank Crawford has done a wonderful job of filling a void in Civil War literature.  While many books tell the story of the Civil War through letters of the men that lived through the conflict, Crawford's book is the only one that tells the story through the eyes of the men that died in the war.  Taking a unique stance, Crawford gives you a brief background on each soldier and then lets the soldier take it from there, telling about his life through his own words. It is a sad thing to realize that each of these men, so hopeful and so full of life, would never see their loved ones again.
    - Gene Eric Salecker, author of Disaster on the Mississippi
    
    A bibliography, photographs, and an index enhance the text.  C3189

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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Arrest of the last rebel partisan 
 
The strike of high noon,
with an intuition gone digestive,
 
we walk the same fields that takes us to a final victory,
quiet, but somehow dangerous,
 
the man in my company trusted me,
yet, for all things certain,
 
I let them down, ambushed by a bushwhacked
enemy,
 
where our enemies played by no rules,
they picked my best men off,
 
silently and with the precision of a
dare devil marmalade,
 
we retreated to the mountains,
regrouping in time for
 
a winter's assault,
to
win,
we threw away
our book of ethics and warfare,
 
resorting to tactics even the others
considered beyond decency,
and self control,
 
I walked home alone,
the only one to survive
this last rear assault,
 
I was notified by the politicians
that a cease fire had been in effect for
a good thirty six hours,
 
now, the blood on my hands
was listed as murder,
 
I would have stand trial
by judges I once hunted as foreign,
 
Funny, the judgment of time,
in the beginning, a friend,
 
in the end a Judas intent
on
payback, for crimes
 
just invented for peace.
 
 
Copyright, William "Wild Bill" Taylor, April, 2004

Thanks Bill!!!!!!   You can see more of "Wild Bill's" poems on the (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com) website.

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your queston, please let us know.

I just want to include a note to all who have asked for help.  Sometimes I am copied on an answer and sometimes I'm not, so IF you receive an answer to your queston, please let us know.  Most respondents will put the name of the soldier or battle in the Subject line, so if you receive an answer directly, be sure you don't delete it, you may miss out on some vital information.  

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

Farragut's famous flagship Hartford was almost constantly in action up the Mississippi many miles from her natural element.  Hartford had a long and distinguished career but unfortunately she sank at her berth at the Norfolk Navy Yard on Novermber 20, 1956, nearly 100 years after launching.

Confederate Stonewall was the only ironclad built in Europe to enter the Southern Navy.  She briefly served the Confederacy before being laid up at Havana, Cuba.  She went on to lead a varied career in the Japanese Navy until the 1880's

From:  "1400 Days, The US Civil War Day by Day"  Chris Bishop, Ian Drury, Tony Gibbons

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From Bitsobluengray:  

Civil War Rosters - All states
Not ALL rosters are available
(http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw.html)
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Union Regimental Histories
Here you see separate link for General Information, Artillery, Cavalry and Infantry.
(http://www.tarleton.edu/~kjones/unions.html)
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Confederate Regimental Histories
(http://www.tarleton.edu/~kjones/confeds.html)

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From Cyndi's List of new websites

URL:     (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/november_2004.htm)
TITLE:     The Home Front War
DESCRIPTION:     The author wants to tell "...the story of typical Missouri 
southern women. Until hostilities started her life was that of the typical 
woman. She took care of her family, tending to home and hearth. When the 
men folk (fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons) left to join the numerous 
Missouri State Guard (sometimes called 'bushwhackers'), this woman was 
forced to tend not only to the home and remaining children, but also the 
fields and livestock.  Plus she had to protect this with her very life 
against the dreaded Federals.".

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From HOST RL ROUNDTOP

(http://www.missouridivision-scv.org/neatstuf.htm)
Missouri Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Neat Stuff About Confederate Missouri

Thanks!!!!!   Lots of neat stuff there, 

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST RL DsRoots, HOST RL IrshRose and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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I'm going to put a note here to all of you have so graciously offered to help folks out.   If you no longer want to be on this list please let me know and I will take your name off the list.  I've had email telling me they've sent email to someone on the list for help, and the email was deleted before it was ever even read.   

If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@pstel.net [ Please note new address for Kevin ] does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
<<http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>>

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at <<http://www.dixieresearch.com>>  Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com  

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
<<http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html>>

November 28 VA Lecture, "John Singleton Mosby, the Man," at the Graffiti House Visitor Center on the Brandy Station battlefield north of Culpeper. 2 pm  $5  540-727-7718

December 3 VA Holiday Open House at the Manassas Museum. Free admission and reception 5-8:30 pm. More info, (www.manassasmuseum.org) or 703-368-1873. 

December 4 WV   "Old Fashioned Christmas" for details contact the Rich Mountain Battlefield Foundation in Beverly at 304-637-RICH or email richmt@richmountain.org. 

December 4 MD  Annual Memorial Illumination at the Antietam National Battlefield. Details: (www.nps.gov/anti) or 304-535-6298. 

While this one isn't Civil War I've decided to post it.

December 12 - PA Sunday, Colonial Candlelight Holiday Open House  Join Pottsgrove Manor's costumed Living Historians as they bring to life the 1764 holiday season in a traditional 18th century English fashion.  The halls will be decked with holiday greenery and arrangements reminiscent of the colonial period.  1:00 to 7:00 p.m.  No charge 


Be sure to check 
(http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events1204.html)
for more Holiday events 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)
Every Saturday Night at midnight ET with HOST RL IrshRose in the Ancestral Digs Room


Nov  25 - Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.  Your hosts will be enjoying the Holiday with their families.  The room is still open so feel free to stop in if you want to.  It's just that there will be no host.

Nov 26 -OPEN CHAT
Nov 27 - researching your Civil War Ancestors

Dec 02 & 03 - to be announced
Dec 04 - researching your ancestors

Dec 09 & 10 - Our Special Songs, letters and Poems night.
Dec 11 - researching your Civil War Ancestors

Dec 16 & 17 - Civil War Christmas
Dec 18 - researching your Civil War Ancestors

Dec 23 - OPEN CHAT 

Dec 24 - Our hosts will be spending Christmas Eve with their families.  The room is still open so feel free to stop in if you want to.  It's just that there will be no host

Dec 25 -      {\o/}      
                        /_\   
   Merry Christmas 

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  

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Jayne, DsRoots, IrshRose, Magnolia, & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
(http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm)


Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 28 November 2004 

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else. 

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Be sure to check out the websites this week.  If you've discovered a Civil War Website you find interesting, share it with us!!!!    

We hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving.  I know I ate way too much but, my it was good!!!   I stopped in our room Thursday night and was joined by 12 over you!  Then Friday night there were 21 visitors over the two hours.  We did a lot of lookups for folks.  I appreciate WolfordGen's helping with the lookups.  Again I want to say thank you to HOST RL Dae for giving me a hand.  
There were a number of Websites mentioned, so they are listed below.  

We'll see you Thurs or Fri for our story about William Hammon - Surgeon General.  You won't want to miss it!

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations

All too ready to forget." OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

Join HOST RL WillM, HOST RL Magnolia and HOST RL Jayne Thursday 11 PM ET  
Join HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL DsRoots...   Friday 10 PM ET 
in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period in the Ancestral Digs Room <<aol://2719:3-232-Ancestral%20Digs>>  (on AOL only)

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them, and other Civil War chats also, at Keyword: Civil War Chat Schedule <<aol://4344:3120.mdchat1.2105643.678515300>>   
On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to Civil War Libraries  <<aol://4344:3120.civwrlib.2105860.680558942>>  There are many files in the library that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  
Visit the Genealogy Community Message boards
<<aol://5863:126/mBLA:56406>>

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.    

Civil War Book Review
<<http://www.cwbr.com/>>

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From bitsobluengray:

A note to those of you who are interested...  "PROUD TO SAY I AM A UNION SOLDIER" is still in production.

The book is available through (http://www.HeritageBooks.com) with a publication date expected within the next three months (or sooner), but you can order the book now and your credit card won't be charged until the book is sent.

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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A Thanksgiving poem [author unknown] 
sent to us by LaddofOhio    

'TWAS THE NIGHT OF THANKSGIVING, 
BUT I JUST COULDN'T SLEEP. 
I TRIED COUNTING BACKWARDS, 
I TRIED COUNTING SHEEP. 

THE LEFTOVERS BECKONED - 
                     THE DARK MEAT AND WHITE,                       
BUT I FOUGHT THE TEMPTATION 
WITH ALL OF MY MIGHT. 

TOSSING AND TURNING 
WITH ANTICIPATION, 
THE THOUGHT OF A SNACK 
BECAME INFATUATION. 

SO, I RACED TO THE KITCHEN, 
                                FLUNG OPEN THE DOOR                                 
AND GAZED AT THE FRIDGE, 
FULL OF GOODIES GALORE. 

I GOBBLED UP TURKEY 
AND BUTTERED POTATOES, 
PICKLES AND CARROTS, 
BEANS AND TOMATOES. 

I FELT MYSELF SWELLING 
SO PLUMP AND SO ROUND, 
'TIL ALL OF A SUDDEN, 
I ROSE OFF THE GROUND. 

I CRASHED THROUGH THE CEILING, 
FLOATING INTO THE SKY 
WITH A MOUTHFUL OF PUDDING 
AND A HANDFUL OF PIE. 

BUT, I MANAGED TO YELL 
AS I SOARED PAST THE TREES.... 
HAPPY EATING TO ALL! 
PASS THE CRANBERRIES, PLEASE. 

MAY YOUR STUFFING BE TASTY, 
MAY YOUR TURKEY BE PLUMP. 
MAY YOUR POTATOES 'N GRAVY 
HAVE NARY A LUMP, 

      MAY YOUR YAMS BE DELICIOUS 
MAY YOUR PIES TAKE THE PRIZE, 
      MAY YOUR THANKSGIVING DINNER 
STAY OFF OF YOUR THIGHS. 

       MAY YOUR THANKSGIVING BE BLESSED!! 
       WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE GRATEFUL FOR!! 
       HAPPY THANKSGIVING DEAR ONES...... 


Thanks (((((((Don))))))!!   

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your queston, please let us know.

I just want to include a note to all who have asked for help.  Sometimes I am copied on an answer and sometimes I'm not, so IF you receive an answer to your queston, please let us know.  Most respondents will put the name of the soldier or battle in the Subject line, so if you receive an answer directly, be sure you don't delete it, you may miss out on some vital information.  

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!!

If a statue in the park of a person on a horse has 
both front legs in the air, the person died in battle. 
If the horse has one front leg in the air the person died 
as a result of wounds received in battle. 
If the horse has all four legs on the ground, the person died of 
natural causes. 

The above sent by CageyCat.    Thanks a bunch ((((((Cagey)))))))

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INTERMENTS IN NATIONAL CEMETERIES

Alexandria (Pineville), La.,                   4,723
Alexander Va.                                   3,584
Andersonville, Ga.                            13,738
Andrew Jackson (Greenville), Tenn.           63
Annapolis, Md.                                   2,523
Antietam (Sharpsburg), Md.                 4,828
Arlington (Ft. Myer), Va.                    40,313
Balls Bluff (Leesburg), Va.                        54
Barrancas, Fl.                                    2,360
Baton Rouge, La.                                3,375
Battle Grds (Takoma Park Sts,) D.C.           44
Beaufort, S.C.                                    9,751
Beverly, N.J.                                         272
Camp Butler (Springfield, Ill)                  1,640
Camp Nelson Ky.                                 3,673
Cave Hill (Louisville), Ky.                       5,445
Chalmette (Arabi), La.                         13,662
Chattanooga, Tenn.                            14,542
City Point (Hopewell), Va.                      5,213
Cold Harbor (Richmond), Va.                   1,974
Corinth, Miss.                                      5,758
Crown Hill (Indianapolis), Ind.                 1,100
Culpeper, Va.                                      1,380
Custer Battlefield Mont.                         1,667
Cypress Hills (Broklyn), N.Y.                  13,699
Danville, Ky.                                           363
Danville, Va.                                        1,331
Fayeyyeville, Ark.                                 1,402
Finns Point (Salem), N.J.                        2,654
Florence S.C.                                       3,019
Fort Donelson (Dover), Tenn.                     682
Fort Gibson, Ok.                                    2,606
Fort Harrison (Richmond), Va.                     819
Fort Leavenworth, Kan.                           4,487
Fort McPherson (Brady), Nebr.                  1,120
Fort Scott, Kan.                                     1,105
Fort Smith, Ark.                                     2,641
Fredericksburg, Va.                               15,238
Gettysburg, Pa                                      3,770
Glendale, Va.                                        1,205
Grafton, W. Va.                                     1,351
Hampton Va.                                       13,863
Jefferson Barracks, Mo.                         14,603
Jefferson City, Mo.                                   924
Keokuk, Ia.                                           1,073
Knoxville, Tenn.                                    3,961
Lebanon, Ky.                                           880
Lexington, Ky.                                      1,266
Little Rock Ark.                                     7,467
Louden Park (Baltimore), Md.                   5,302
Mariette Ga.                                       10,639
Memphis, Tenn.                                   15,125
Mexico City, Mex.                                  1,563
Mill Springs (Somerset), Ky.                       750
Mobile, Ala.                                          2,479
Mound City, Ill.                                     5,578
Nashville (Madison), Tenn.                     16,907
Natchez, Miss.                                      3,701
New Albany, Ind.                                   3,382
Newbern, N.C.                                      3,484
Philadelphia (Pittsville Sta.), Pa.               4,954
Popular Grove (Petersburg), Va.               6,263
Port Hudson, La.                                   3,861
Quincy, Ill                                              320
Raleigh, N.C.                                        1,259
Richmond, Va.                                      6,675
Rock Island, Ill                                        651
Salisbury, N.C.                                    12,193
San Antonio, Tex.                                 3,829
San Francisco (Presidio Sta.) Ca.            12,821
Santa Fe, N.M.                                     1,571
Seven Pines (Richmond), Va.                   1,407
Shiloh (Pittsburg Landing), Tenn.              3,639
Soldiers Home, (Washington), D.C.            9,107
Springfield, Mo.                                     2,785
St. Augustine, Fla.                                 1,886
Staunton, Va.                                          774
Stone River (Murfreesboro), Tenn.             6,170
Vicksburg, Miss.                                    17,404
Wilmington, N.C.                                     2,425
Winchester, Va.                                      4,563
Woodlawn (Elmira), N.Y.                           3,320
Yorktown, Va.                                        2,204
Zachary Taylor (Louisville), Ky.                       2
Alaska                                                     121

Total as of 1933                                  422,365

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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These websites were mentioned in the room Thursday 25th and Friday 26th

(http://www.ancestry.com) 
(http://www.familysearch.org)

Civil War Rosters - Arranged by State
(http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw.html)
Not ALL rosters are available

Regimental Histories
(http://www.tarleton.edu/~kjones/unions.html)
(http://www.tarleton.edu/~kjones/confeds.html)

Georgia Historical Society
(http://www.georgiahistory.com)

From AKayOertel

Thanksgiving Recipes pre 1900   
(http://www.pilgrimhall.org/thanksrec.htm)

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From Bitsobluengray:  

Pennsylvania Volunteers of the Civil War
(http://www.pacivilwar.com/)

Civil War Round Table of Eastern Pennsylvania, Inc.
(http://www.enter.net/~cwrt/)

Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War
(http://suvcw.org/)

Sons of Confederate Veterans
(http://www.scv.org)

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From DdHober

Canadian Cannon Company
(http://www.brasswithclass.com)

Libby Prison, Richmond, VA
(http://members.aol.com/jweaver300/grayson/libby.htm) 

Oregon Civil War Genealogy
(http://members.aol.com/jweaver300/grayson/libby.htm)

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From Trumpshallblow

Virtual Military Cemetery - Tennessee (http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/vcem/index.html) 

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM, HOST RL DsRoots, HOST RL IrshRose and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  
  
NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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This isn't exactly how I fixed my turkey for Thanksgiving but I'm sure our ancesters probably did.  

TO ROAST A TURKEY
from : Mrs. Hale’s New Cook Book. By Mrs. Sarah J. Hale.
Philadelphia : T.B. Peterson and Brothers, 1857.
from : Thanksgiving by the (Cook)Book.

Prepare a stuffing of pork sausage meat, one beaten egg, and a few crumbs of bread; or, if sausages are to be served with the turkey, stuffing as for fillet of veal; in either, a little shred shalot is an improvement.  

Stuff the bird under the breast; dredge it with flour, and put it down to a clear brisk fire; at a moderate distance the first half-hour but afterwards nearer. 

Baste with butter; and when the turkey is plumped up, and the steam draws towards the fire, it will be nearly done; then dredge it lightly with flour, and baste it with a little more butter, first melted in the basting-ladle. Serve with gravy in the dish, and bread sauce in a tureen. It may be garnished with sausages, or with fried forcemeat, if veal-stuffing be used. Sometimes the gizzard and liver are dipped into the yolk of an egg, sprinkled with salt and cayenne, and then put under the pinions, before the bird is put to the fire. Chestnuts, stewed in gravy, are likewise eaten with turkey. A very large turkey will require three hours’ roasting; one of eight or ten pounds, two hours; and a small one, an hour and a half.

From:  (http://www.pilgrimhall.org/thanksrec.htm)

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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I'm going to put a note here to all of you have so graciously offered to help folks out.   If you no longer want to be on this list please let me know and I will take your name off the list.  I've had email telling me they've sent email to someone on the list for help, and the email was deleted before it was ever even read.   

If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

HOST RL Magnolia can be contacted if you have PA soldiers. 

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@pstel.net [ Please note new address for Kevin ] does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
<<http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>>

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at <<http://www.dixieresearch.com>>  Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com  

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
<<http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html>>

December 3 VA Holiday Open House at the Manassas Museum. Free admission and reception 5-8:30 pm. More info, (www.manassasmuseum.org) or 703-368-1873. 

December 4 WV   "Old Fashioned Christmas" for details contact the Rich Mountain Battlefield Foundation in Beverly at 304-637-RICH or email richmt@richmountain.org. 

December 4 MD  Annual Memorial Illumination at the Antietam National Battlefield. Details: (www.nps.gov/anti) or 304-535-6298. 

While this one isn't Civil War I've decided to post it.

December 12 - PA Sunday, Colonial Candlelight Holiday Open House  Join Pottsgrove Manor's costumed Living Historians as they bring to life the 1764 holiday season in a traditional 18th century English fashion.  The halls will be decked with holiday greenery and arrangements reminiscent of the colonial period.  1:00 to 7:00 p.m.  No charge 

December 18 - 19  - VA Living history and Christmas traditions at the Hillsman House on the Sailor's Creek Battlefield Historic State Park near Farmville. Decorations, refreshments and Santa Claus appearance. Details: 434-392-3435 or (www.dcr.state.va.us).    
   
December  18 -19 - VA Special programs, "Merry Christmas from Mulberry Hill Plantation" and the Staunton River Battlefield State Park near Clover. Antebellum holiday decorations, refreshments and more. Details: 434-454-4312 or (www.dcr.state.va.us).    

January  15 - 16 - NC    Living history and much more at the 140th anniversary of the fall of Fort Fisher, Kure Beach. Includes Saturday evening fireworks. Free. 910-458-5538.    
   

Be sure to check 
(http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events1204.html)
For other events 

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)
Every Saturday Night at midnight ET with HOST RL IrshRose in the Ancestral Digs Room

Dec 02 & 03 - William Hammond - Surgeon General
Dec 04 - researching your ancestors

Dec 09 & 10 - Our Special Songs, letters and Poems night.
Dec 11 - researching your Civil War Ancestors

Dec 16 & 17 - Civil War Christmas
Dec 18 - researching your Civil War Ancestors

Dec 23 - OPEN CHAT

Dec 24  - Our hosts will be spending Christmas Eve with their families.  The room is still open so feel free to stop in if you want to.  It's just that there will be no host
Dec 25 -      {\o/}      
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    Merry Christmas 

We'll See You Thursday, Friday and/or Saturday Night.  

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Jayne, DsRoots, IrshRose, Magnolia, & Will
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