November 2002 Weekly Fireside
Newsletters
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 03 Nov 2002
Our Mission: To serve all genealogists by
providing an enjoyable online environment with as many helpful and reliable
resources as possible.
If you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter by email, please
have them send an email to HOST
GFS Jim and HOST GFS Jayne with subscribe in the subject line.
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We had a great time Thursday.
"Our" Jim was finally home from his "on location" trip with
his paying job. It was open chat and the names of many books came up: "Killer
Angels" by Michael Shaara; "Gods and Generals" by Jeff
Shaara; "Gone for Soldiers" by Jeff Shaara; "Fire on
the Waters" by David Poyer; The Hornblower Series by Cecil Scott
Forester; "A Killing at Ball's Bluff" by Michael Kilian; "Gray
Raiders of the Sea: How Eight Confederate Warships Destroyed the Union's High
Seas Commerce" by Chester G. Hearn; and "A History of the
Confederate Navy" by Raimondo Luraghi.
We even managed some Ghost Stories in "honor" of Halloween.
Mark your calendar.... set your clock..... tie a string around your finger,
whatever it takes to remember that this Thursday is our special Songs, Letters,
and Poems night. 11 PM ET in the Golden Gates room (aol only)
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Coming Events"
"Uncle Chuck's" Civil War Calendar!!
HOST GFS Chuck has been providing us
with some excellent Civil War Events around the country so as long as he keeps
sending them we'll keep this "Town Crier" up.......
From: HOST GFS [email protected]
November 16, 2002 Gettysburg, PA Remembrance Day, Parade 1 PM.
November 19th is the 139th Anniversary of the Gettysburg Address.
From: [email protected]
I went to my favorite ghost web site and found out they were having a ghost
conference on the Civil War. I thought I would share. <G> I wish I could
go but that's the east coast and I am west coast.
http://www.ghostweb.com/2003conf.html
2003 Gettysburg Ghost Conference
Learning from the Past"
The Sixth Annual International Ghost Hunters Society Gettysburg Ghost
Conference, hosted by Cofounders, Dr. Dave Oester & Dr. Sharon Gill, is
scheduled for March 29 and 30th, 2003. This is the largest Civil War ghost
conference held annually in the United States.
Visit the website for events, prices, etc.
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Civil War History & Genealogy
Forum Related Activities and Sites
Available for your Enjoyment and Research
War Between the States (Tracing your Civil War Ancestors)
With HOST GFS Amy and HOST
GFS Wolford on
Friday evenings at 9:00 PM EDT in the Golden
Gates Chat Room
of the Genealogy Forum (ONLY ON AOL) at KEYWORD: ROOTS
"Genealogy Forum's Military Resources" Website
devoted to Civil War History and the material presented in
the American Civil War History Special Interest Group
in the Genealogy Forum of America On-Line.
The address is:
http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Military/
The Weekly Fireside Archives
http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Military/Fireside.htm
The Genealogy Forum Mailing List Signup
You may subscribe by sending an email to:
[email protected]
Title the subject of the email SUBSCRIPTION and type "Subscribe"
in the body of the email message.
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Editor's Note: I sincerely encourage you to
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, Stories or articles that you
have in our Civil War History Files through the new Military Resources Website.
We are trying "beef up" our Library and now those of you who have
patiently stuck with us who aren't AOL Members can now participate. There is
also an area for you to upload photos, if you would desire to share those with
the Civil War History community. On the Web Site, there are links to our Civil
War Library (Files, Firesides, and Photo's).
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE
REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
Every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the
newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank
You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We hope to
give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive
the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will
quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to
clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the
newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you
for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy
to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere
to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although
we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D
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Did you know?
The following was received from [email protected].
He stated it came to him on one of his maillists and thought everyone might
enjoy reading it.
Flag-bearing Civil War soldier will be honored on new medal
By Peter Rexford
As Nov. 11 approaches - with U.S. troops in Afghanistan, talk of war with Iraq
and the war on terrorism now in America's back yard - there's little doubt this
Veterans Day will assume greater importance than in years past. Invariably, more
flags will be flying in tribute to those who have gone into battle.
In the 1860s, Americans fought one another in one of the bloodiest wars in our
history. Most combatants who served during the Civil War are long-forgotten and
relegated to overgrown cemeteries. As in every conflict, however, a few stood
out in battle and are still remembered for their bravery.
You probably don't recognize the name Leopold Karpeles. He was a Jew who
emigrated from Prague, Bohemia (now Czechoslovakia), in 1861. He abhorred
slavery and joined the Union forces to fight against it. After the battles of
Kingston, Whitehall and Goldsborough, he was discharged in 1863, only to rejoin
a few months later.
As a sergeant and color bearer, Karpeles' job was to carry the flag - one of the
most important tasks, because where the colors went, the troops followed. In
1864, during the Battle of the Wilderness in Virginia, Karpeles led the charge
by carrying the flag into battle. Under a barrage of bullets and Confederate
artillery, the Union troops began to retreat. Karpeles stood on a tree stump
waving the flag for them to return. Seeing this, Union commander Gen. James S.
Wadsworth rode toward Karpeles, reportedly yelling, "Rally 'round the flag,
boys." For his bravery, Karpeles was awarded the Medal of Honor.
After Karpeles' death in 1909, his medal was lost in a fire. For Veterans Day
2002, the Jewish-American Hall of Fame has created a new medal depicting
Karpeles carrying the flag during the Battle of the Wilderness. On the reverse
of the medal is an excerpt from a letter written by President Abraham Lincoln to
a Jewish congregation in Philadelphia, which reads, "Thank you heartily for
your prayers."
Produced in bronze, pure silver and 10-karat gold, the 2 1/2-ounce medals are
limited to quantities of 999, 499 and 49 and sell for $35, $95 and $895
respectively. Each is individually numbered. In addition, purchasers of the
medal will receive a quartz watch featuring the names of 12 other well-known
honorees in the Jewish-American Hall of Fame, including Albert Einstein, Jonas
Salk and Harry Houdini. The medals can be ordered by calling 1-800-472-6327.
With the holidays approaching, retailers are wondering how they'll fare in the
current economy. If prices for stamps listed in the new 2003 Scott Specialized
Catalog of U.S. Stamps are any indication, stamp dealers can expect a banner
year.
Just released this month, the Scott catalog is the bible most collectors turn to
for values of stamps, envelopes, postcards and most anything connected to
philately.
In the 2003 edition, more than 18,500 changes in the value of 19th-century and
20th-century stamps are noted, with the vast majority of prices revised upward.
Some of the changes are dramatic: A 3-cent stamp from 1880 leaped in value to
$50,000 from $40,000 last year.
But the changes aren't limited to vintage stamps few people see. The recently
issued 1998 Christmas Wreaths booklet of stamps doubled in value to $12 from $6
last year.
As James Kloetzel, editor of the catalog, explained, "The market for
high-quality and scarce U.S. stamps remains vibrant. Demand continues to push
values upward for those difficult-to-locate items."
The 2003 Scott catalog is priced at $44.95 and is available at most stamp
dealers or from Scott Publishing Co. at 1-800-572-6885. The catalog is also
available for computers on a CD-ROM for the same price. More information on the
catalog can also be found at http://www.amosadvantage.com.
.............and there you have it.
* * * * * * * * * *
This came from our friend Ted Fisher
Federal major William J. Hardee wrote "Rifle and Light Infantry Tactics"
in 1853 to reflect the change in military science from precision formations to
quick manuvering. The book directed action at the battalion level and ignored
the directing of regiments and companies. This book became the standard text for
officers but did not anticipate developments in weapons technology. Both sides
in the CW used these tactics with disasterous results throughout the war
resulting in massive casualties such as occured at Gettysburg, Fredericksburg
and Franklin. For example- Pickett's Charge where several waves of troops
attacked a fixed position. The 1st wave acceptably would be wiped out, but much
of the 2nd wave and all of the 3rd wave would be amongst the defenders before
they could reload and would carry the day. In 1861, Hardee resigned his
commission to become a Brig. Gen in the Confederate army.
Toward the end of the Civil War most Confederate troops were in rags. Some from
North Carolina were lucky enough to get a uniform re-issue. Unfortionately the
uniforms they got were snow white / undyed making them great targets when worn.
They commented "We were issued our shrouds early"
.............and there you have even more.
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it
out. Hope these answer the mail :D
Editor's Note: The new Military Resources Website (Website is listed above in the
Fireside) has a myriad of options for you. Here are some the choices: US
Military Records, Conscription/Draft Records, Civil War Battle Names, Secession
of the Confederate States, Your Civil War Ancestors - Where to Begin, Military
Resources on the Internet, links to the Stories, Files and Talks of the American
Civil War History Chat on AOL, message boards and many, many others. Your
comments and suggestions are always welcome.
Additional Note from the Webmaster: Although we are thrilled to provide this
area for you now, we want you to know that we are still building it and MORE
files, Regimental Histories, etc., will be available in the near future. Stay
Tuned!
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Websites we've received:
From: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Civil War history related to the Western
Counties of Virginia, now West Virginia. It is heavily under construction, so
you will definitely want to visit it often to see the additions.
http://www.dixieresearch.com
From: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works... If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members see your request,
some being in the near vicinity, are willing to assist, and can email you
directly (This protects your privacy) to work out the details. We HIGHLY
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free"
assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage
costs). Do unto others as.... you know
:-)
Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the
"Fireside"!!
HOST GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US
KNOW!!!!!
Thanks!! - The Editors
We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their
screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor
their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-)....
We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....
From: Howie [email protected]
Cannot find your ancestor's military information
and you know he was eligible for military duty in the Civil War? Yet you
cannot find any information about him on any of the muster rolls and there is
no indication of where any records for this ancestor may be. Remember, many
men were rejected from Civil War service because of illness or injury. Medical
records of drafted and rejected men are at the National Archives, group record
#110. They are arranged by Congressional District as of 1863. Data may include
residence, occupation, age, place of birth, physical characteristics or
reasons for rejection.
NOTE: If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
and make sure that you tell him HOST GFS Jayne told you to write to him. He will
give it priority and see what he can find for you.
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OUR WEEKLY READING
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, and Poems evenings)
July 21st 1863
Fairfax Coarthouse Virginia
Dear wife this is tusday afternoon we hav bin on the march ever since the 10th
of June and we hav travled over a greadeal of country sence that time we come to
Washington on last munday night weak and we left their on friday and come to
Alexandria whear we staid until Sun after noon when we received marching orders
we was paid on Sunday about noon and we started on our march about 3 oclock I
was sent to Alexander D P for our provisions and they sent for me to come to
camp as soon as posible to get my money and we marched about 9 miles that evning
and we put up for the night in a open plain got our supers and laid down for the
night with our gum blankets and over coats and we landed hear yester day at noon
but I think we are not going to stay hear only for a day or to we are about 20
or 25 miles from Washington and we exspect to go to Senter Ville whitch is about
30 miles from hear I think we are going to guard the rail road for we want rest
this is the way Generel Meed is to get his suplies over this railroad their is a
wagon train pasing hear to day and it beats all I hav ever sean they began to
pas hear at 8 oclock and they are stil pasing at 1 oclock we hav bin verry busey
ever sence we left our old camp but I hope it wont last mutch longer Washington
was a verry fine place we boarded at the large eating Salune while we was their
it is for soldiers onley I was in and through the Capitel it is verry fine I
sean more than I hav ever sean before but I glad we are out of it as town dont
sute me their is plenty of every thing their we come off prety safe when we left
the White house but we had 2 of our wagons burnt that was loaded with napsacks
but they did not belong to our company they had to burn them to keep the rebs
from geting them the wagons got broak and so deap in the mud that they had to
leave them Wee are now in Western Virginia and if the people has eney thing to
sel we can buy it but the rebels wont sel to us if they can help it but their is
onley afew of them that have eney thing to sel I hav sean severel men of my old
acquaintence and John Fouracar come to see us in Washington he was going to the
Hospitel their their is nothing of him but skin and bone he thinks he has the
consumpsion he asked for you all and asked what become of ( ? ) his father and
him come to see us last Sunday the old man cant use his sholder yet he will be a
cripel in it I have dreams 2 nights that I was at home and you was milking and
that ant Deby was maried I heard that they hav arested severel rebels in Newark
and they ought to hang that old rebel preacher him and his brother ought to be
hung togather I riting under a aple tree and this orchard is prety full of aples
and the pears is geting ripe we had one hour yester day to get our diner and it
hapened that the old field was covered with blackburies and I picked a quart cup
ful and eat them for my diner they are verry ripe and plenty hear but we cant go
far after them for the bush whackers I sent you a little money yesterday with
the Chaplin and the letter will be left at W H Pearces for you you hav nothing
to pay I paid him I must bring my letter to a close for I was out on picket last
night and we hav inspection this evening at 5 oclock and we all hav a speshel
invertation to be at it we are all wel and I hope this will find you the same I
send my love to you all Josey mite rite me a letter
from your afectinate Husband
Levi McCormick write
soon good by
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY..
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information,
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
A Note From HOST GFS [email protected]
I know you all know I have a website, (http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com)
and on that site, I've been adding the Delaware Roster of Civil War Soldiers.
I had asked folks if they have DE CW soldier ancestors, and knew where they
are buried, to send me the info and I would put it on my website. A couple of
weeks ago an angel was sent.. I received two rolls of film in our snail mail
from [email protected]. On
those films were pictures of the tombstones for all the Delaware Civil War
soldiers buried at Andersonville National Cemetery. Kevin had also sent me a
list of the soldiers complete with Rank, Regiment, Company, date of death,
cause of death and the grave number.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin does Volunteer reseach at
Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is
absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than
32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held
prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also
nearly 13,000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is
dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well
as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He
just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
The souces for the research is:
There are 2 online databases to do lookups.....One by name...one by Company
and Regiment. He also has a copy of the Dorence Atwater Death list which has
the names and grave numbers of 12,960 graves with only 460 marked as "
UNKNOWN " This along with a CD he has that contains 34,000 names of the
45,000 who were imprisoned there which helps him find prisoner records because
of misspellings of the names or alternate names. He also has the contined
update database which is dated July 19 2002 . Kevin visits the prison site
every couple of weeks and has access to the onsite databases as well as the
physical files.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/ANDERSONVILLE/PRISON.html
From: [email protected]
The Capitol Brigade of the North Carolina
Division Sons of Confederate Veterans is arranging a private showing of the
new feature film "Gods and Generals" in Raleigh. The date for
this private screening will be set in January.
"Gods and Generals" has been called the "Southern
Braveheart." The hero of the movie is Thomas J. "Stonewall"
Jackson. Robert E. Lee is portrayed by acclaimed actor Robert Duvall. To view
this film in a theater full of fellow Confederates will be akin to the Atlanta
opening of "Gone With The Wind."
To reserve a ticket, contact Burgwyn Camp Commander Thomas J. Smith Jr. at
2009 East Garner Road, Raleigh, NC 27610, by telephone at (919) 772-7786, or
by e-mail at [email protected]
and let him know how many tickets you want.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT..
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War",
with byproducts of laughter, and comraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"
by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically
the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online"
environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this
"Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know
it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social
happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of
Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a
seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of
upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the
Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.
As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have
entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we
automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside."
AND Hey! TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up"
with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you....
Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from distribution of
this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we will comply with your
wishes "post-haste".
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****
Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden
Gates Chat Room (On AOL Only) with hosts HOST
GFS Amy, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Jim and our many faithful
friends :)
11/07/02 - OPEN CHAT
11/14/02 - Our Special Monthly session of Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil
War
11/21/02 - OPEN CHAT
11/28/02 - THANKSGIVING - This is a holiday for your Hosts so they can spend the
day with their families, just as you will be doing. If after all the day's
activities, you want to drop in, you might just find one or more of us there.
12/05/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/12/02 - Our Special Monthly session of Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil
War
12/19/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/26/02 - To be announced
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's & Hostess's :-)
HOST
GFS Jim, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Amy
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 10 Nov 2002
Our Mission: To serve all genealogists by
providing an enjoyable online environment with as many helpful and reliable
resources as possible.
If you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter by email, please
have them send an email to HOST
GFS Jim and HOST GFS Jayne with subscribe in the subject line.
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We had a great time Thursday night. I
miss the Chat Room when I'm traveling and this is just like taking a cool drink
of water from a Rocky Mountain stream. Heh Heh We had some good discussions
about some of Jeff Shaara's books, "Killer Angels" and "Gone
for Soldiers." Jabbered some about Longstreet and Lee and then I got
"sorely" confused and thought that it was the second Thursday of the
month and we started doing a few Letters, Songs and Poems. It didn't dawn on me
until last around Saturday that I'd jumped a week ahead. Oh Well, life is just
full of surprises. Hopefully I'll connect long enough to realize some. Heh Heh
HOST GFS Jayne had a neat extract that she ran across from "Martine's
Handbook of Etiquette, and the Guide to True Politeness," New York:
Dick & Fitzgerald; Publishers. 1864. Was that an eye-opener.
Next Thursday is the "Real" Civil War Letters, Songs and Poems, so
come on out and enjoy with us.
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"Coming Events"
"Uncle Chuck's" Civil War Calendar!!
HOST GFS Chuck has been providing us
with some excellent Civil War Events around the country so as long as he keeps
sending them we'll keep this "Town Crier" up.......
[email protected] sent this little tidbit
into the newsletter so we'll post it right here.
The Capitol Brigade of the North Carolina
Division Sons of Confederate Veterans is arranging a private showing of the
new feature film "Gods and Generals" in Raleigh. The date for
this private screening will be set in January.
"Gods and Generals" has been called the "Southern
Braveheart." The hero of the movie is Thomas J. "Stonewall"
Jackson. Robert E. Lee is portrayed by acclaimed actor Robert Duvall. To view
this film in a theater full of fellow Confederates will be akin to the Atlanta
opening of "Gone With The Wind."
To reserve a ticket, contact Burgwyn Camp Commander Thomas J. Smith Jr. at
2009 East Garner Road, Raleigh, NC 27610, by telephone at (919) 772-7786, or
by e-mail at [email protected]
and let him know how many tickets you want.
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Civil War History & Genealogy
Forum Related Activities and Sites
Available for your Enjoyment and Research
War Between the States (Tracing your Civil War Ancestors)
With HOST GFS Amy and HOST
GFS Wolford on
Friday evenings at 9:00 PM EDT in the Golden
Gates Chat Room
of the Genealogy Forum (ONLY ON AOL) at KEYWORD: ROOTS
"Genealogy Forum's Military Resources" Website
devoted to Civil War History and the material presented in
the American Civil War History Special Interest Group
in the Genealogy Forum of America On-Line.
The address is:
http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Military/
The Weekly Fireside Archives
http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Military/Fireside.htm
The Genealogy Forum Mailing List Signup
You may subscribe by sending an email to:
[email protected]
Title the subject of the email SUBSCRIPTION and type "Subscribe"
in the body of the email message.
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Editor's Note: I sincerely encourage you to
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, Stories or articles that you
have in our Civil War History Files through the new Military Resources Website.
We are trying "beef up" our Library and now those of you who have
patiently stuck with us who aren't AOL Members can now participate. There is
also an area for you to upload photos, if you would desire to share those with
the Civil War History community. On the Web Site, there are links to our Civil
War Library (Files, Firesides, and Photo's).
=========================================
FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE
REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
Every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the
newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank
You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We hope to
give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive
the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will
quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to
clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the
newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you
for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy
to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere
to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although
we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D
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Did you know?
In March, of 1863, one of our captains was a quaint, impulsive energetic
officer, and good disciplinarian. A private named Hackett, in Company E (11th
Vermont Volunteers), was the most ungainly soldier in the regiment; he could not
keep step with one marching by his side, or in front of him, and never learned
the manual of arms. He should have remained at home and become a minister of the
gospel. He was eccentric and had formerly been a Biblical student. He could
recite Scripture from Genesis to Exodus.
The guard-house was located just inside the Fort (Lincoln, Washington D.C.)
entrance and a bridge spanned the moat to the entrance. Once, when Captain R.
was Officer of the Day, it was his duty to inspect the guard at least once after
midnight. Hackett was at Post Number One, near the gate-way of the Fort. It was
a dark, rainy night, when Hackett heard Captain R. approach, and called out,
"Who comes there?"
Captain R., being on one side of the bridge, stumbled and fell headlong into the
moat; as he fell he exclaimed in a loud voice, "Jesus Christ."
Hackett faced about and called out promptly, "Turn out the Apostles. Jesus
Christ is coming." Then the guard helped the Captain out of the moat.
--- Brevet Major Charles H. Anson
.............and there you have it.
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it
out. Hope these answer the mail :D
Editor's Note: The new Military Resouces Website (Website is listed above in the
Fireside) has a myriad of options for you. Here are some the choices: US
Military Records, Conscription/Draft Records, Civil War Battle Names, Secession
of the Confederate States, Your Civil War Ancestors - Where to Begin, Military
Resources on the Internet, links to the Stories, Files and Talks of the American
Civil War History Chat on AOL, message boards and many, many others. Your
comments and suggestions are always welcome.
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Websites we've received:
From: [email protected]
Civil War site on Page County, Virginia
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapage2/civilwar.htm
From: HOST GFS [email protected], picked
up from Cyndislist of new sites
URL: http://www.angelfire.com/oh/36OVI
TITLE: 36th Ohio Volunteer Infantry
DESCRIPTION: Site dedicated to Union Civil War regiment. Information presented
to inform descendants. Regimental history being researched; primary source
documents such as letters and diaries being sought. Regiment's battle flags
presented with information about Ohio Genealogical Society's quest to preserve
all of Ohio's Civil War battle flags.
URL: http://www.gwdow.net/rn909_wentworth_dow.htm
TITLE: Civil War Diaries of Wentworth DOW (1829-1904), Pvt Co E 16th Regt,
Wisconsin Infantry Volunteers (Adams County Rifles)
DESCRIPTION: Reproduced original diary pages and transcription with extensive
supplemental information about the people, places and events described,
military records and genealogical connections of people mentioned.
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battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members see your request,
some being in the near vicinity, are willing to assist, and can email you
directly (This protects your privacy) to work out the details. We HIGHLY
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free"
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screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor
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From: Howie [email protected]
Cannot find your ancestor's military information
and you know he was eligible for military duty in the Civil War? Yet you
cannot find any information about him on any of the muster rolls and there is
no indication of where any records for this ancestor may be. Remember, many
men were rejected from Civil War service because of illness or injury. Medical
records of drafted and rejected men are at the National Archives, group record
#110. They are arranged by Congressional District as of 1863. Data may include
residence, occupation, age, place of birth, physical characteristics or
reasons for rejection.
NOTE: If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
and make sure that you tell him HOST GFS Jayne told you to write to him. He will
give it priority and see what he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin ([email protected])
does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13,000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
The souces for the research is:
There are 2 online databases to do lookups.....One by name...one by Company and
Regiment. He also has a copy of the Dorence Atwater Death list which has the
names and grave numbers of 12,960 graves with only 460 marked as " UNKNOWN
" This along with a CD he has that contains 34,000 names of the 45,000 who
were imprisoned there which helps him find prisoner records because of
misspellings of the names or alternate names. He also has the contined update
database which is dated July 19 2002 . Kevin visits the prison site every couple
of weeks and has access to the onsite databases as well as the physical files.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/ANDERSONVILLE/PRISON.html
From: [email protected]
Does anyone know if any of the wartime papers of
Capt. W. T. Havens exists? Capt. Havens was a Captain of the 3rd Battalion,
Mounted Rifles. CSA. (Kentucky)
Linda
"Linda" I've found a few connections to your Capt. W. T. Havens
From: [email protected]
The Confederate Territory of Arizona encompassed
the Southern thirds of the current states of New Mexico and Arizona including
the Gadsden Purchase. The citizens allied themselves with the Confederacy in
1861 for several reasons: the discontinuance of Wells Fargo which was the
principal mode of communication, the withdrawal and shipment east of most of
the Federal troops and the resultant quantum increase of indian depredations.
Masilla, located just south of present day Las Cruces New Mexico was the
territorial capitol and the territory remained a confederate territory for 2
years. .
From: [email protected]
We often forget a third adversary during the
Civil War. While Indians under Gen Stand Waite fought for the south, A portion
of the first Minnesota volunteers never went to war against the Confederates-
instead it fought against the Sioux and protected Minnesota citizens against
their depredations. Dragoon Springs near Tucson Arizona was the site furthest
west involving the deaths of Confederate troops, when Apaches under Cochese
ambushed them in 1862 killing 4 and capturing 25 horses and 30 mules. The 4
Confederates are still buried at the springs. Once the Confederates were
defeated, Fort Union commenced Federal campaigns between 1863-65 against the
Apaches, Kiowas, Utes, Comanches, Navajos and Cheyennes.
From: PA CIVIL WAR list - [email protected]
Looking for those Historic Military Maps. Try
this site:
http://www.military.com/Resources/HistorySubmittedFileView?file=History_M
aps.htm
West Point Atlas and Military.com present strategic and historical maps
covering major conflicts in U.S. history. To view maps for a particular
conflict, click on the topic of interest.
The Old Sailor
From: [email protected]
HI this is my cousin Ruth and she posted a
question we can both use answer for. I would love to know more about the Capt
John Henderson. besides the SPROWLs.
Thank you very much.
Blessings Susi
Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: [WASH] PA.Civil War data
Date: 11/5/2002 7:57:31 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
In a message dated 11/5/2002 7:42:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected]
writes:
> Any Civil War buffs on this list? Am researching my
> husbands Sprowls veterans-a few were with CAPT. JOHN
> HENDERSON -PA. INFANTRY. It looks like it may be
> Hendersons DEPOT CORP. No Regiment numbers or company
> letters. Can anyone steer me to a source for further info?
> I have checked out many online CW sites, can't locate
> Henderson. We are guessing they were militia-
> Any help greatly appreciated.
Hiya Ruth!
I've never found a roster for Henderson's Dept Corp, but I found the following
info about it. Apparently it was a part of the Home Guard. My g-g-grandfather,
Samuel McDaid, served with them, but according to his pension info, he did not
serve enough time to qualify for a pension for his widow (probably due to a
bad heart). The columns do not line up, but there is a legend for the column
headings included below. I believe at one time there was a descendent of John
Henderson's on this list...maybe she has more info (if she sees this).
Coincidentally, one of John Henderson's daughters married one of Samuel
McDaid's sons.
THE WAR OF THE REBELLION: A COMPILATION OF THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE UNION
AND CONFEDERATE ARMIES.
PREPARED UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE SECRETARY OF WAR, BY BVT. LIEUT. COL.
ROBERT N. SCOTT, THIRD U. S. ARTILLERY AND PUBLISHED PURSUANT TO ACT OF
CONGRESS APPROVED JUNE 16, 1880.
WASHINGTON: GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 1880.
O.R.-- SERIES I--VOLUME XXIX/2 [S# 49]
Correspondence, Orders, And Returns Relating Specially To Operations In North
Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, And Pennsylvania, From August 4
To December 31, 1863.
UNION CORRESPONDENCE, ETC.--#5
Abstract from return of the Department of the Monongahela, Maj. Gen. William
T. H. Brooks, U.S. Army, commanding, August 31, 1863.
O Officers.
A Aggregate present
M Men.
B Aggregate present and absent
P Present for duty
| Command |
O |
M |
A |
B |
|
| General headquarters |
9 |
.... |
9 |
9 |
| Barnesville, Ohio |
5 |
167 |
177 |
186 |
| Connellsville, Pa |
18 |
440 |
523 |
553 |
| Hendrysburg, Ohio |
3 |
92 |
95 |
95 |
| New Wilmington, Pa |
1 |
74 |
75 |
75 |
| Pittsburgh, Pa |
3 |
80 |
90 |
92 |
| Pulaski, Pa |
1 |
48 |
52 |
69 |
| Somerton, Ohio |
3 |
85 |
88 |
88 |
| West Finley, Pa |
3 |
89 |
92 |
92 |
| Wheeling, W. Va |
3 |
73 |
160 |
175 |
| Total |
49 |
1,148 |
1,361 |
1,434 |
Troops in the Department of the Monongahela, Maj. Gen. William T. H. Brooks,
U. S. Army, commanding, August 31, 1863.
BARNESVILLE, OHIO.
Ohio Company (Departmental Corps), Capt. James L. Deens.
Ohio Company (Departmental Corps), Capt. Hamilton Eaton.
CONNELLSVILLE, PA.
1st Independent Pennsylvania Cavalry Battalion (militia), Lieut. Col. Richard
C. Dale.
HENDRYSBURG, OHIO.
Ohio Company (Departmental Corps), Capt. Joseph P. Arrick.
NEW WILMINGTON, PA.
Pennsylvania Company (emergency militia), Capt. Joseph R. Kemp.
PITTSBURGH, PA.
Pennsylvania Company (emergency militia), Capt. Samuel T. Griffith.
PULASKI, PA.
Pennsylvania Company (emergency militia), Lieut. James M. Brown.
SOMERTON, OHIO.
Ohio Company (Departmental Corps), Capt. Samuel Beard.
WEST FINLEY, PA.
Pennsylvania Company (emergency militia), Capt. John Henderson,
Cherie Atkinson Clark
mailto:[email protected]
http://members.aol.com/chersfmly/
Looking for ATKINSON in Ohio Co WV and Washington Co PA, FIFE in Allegheny and
Washington Co PA, KIMMINS (or KIMMONS) in Ohio and Marshall Co WV and
Washington Co PA, SKILES in Washington Co PA, TOLBERT in Carroll Co VA and
Raleigh and Fayette Co WV, WEBB in Carroll Co VA, McDAID in Washington Co PA
and Marshall Co WV, WOLFE in Greene Co and Washington Co PA, FARIS in Ohio Co
WV and Delaware Co OH, McCONNELL in Allegheny Co PA, MORROW in Allegheny Co
PA, SUPLER in Washington Co and Greene Co PA, and way too many associated
families to list!
**There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our children. One of
these is roots, the other, wings.** (Hodding Carter)
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OUR WEEKLY READING
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, and Poems evenings)
An Address by an Ex-Confederate Soldier to the Grand Army of the
Republic...........'
by Maurice Thompson (1844-1901)
I was a rebel, if you please,
A reckless fighter to the last,
Nor do I fall upon my knees
And ask forgiveness for the past.
A traitor? I a traitor? No!
I was a patriot to the core;
The South was mine, I loved her so,
I gave her all, -- I could no more.
You scowl at me. And was it wrong
To wear the gray my father wore?
Could I slink back, though young and strong,
From foes before my mother's door?
My mother's kiss was hot with fight,
My father's frenzy filled his son,
Through reeking day and sodden night
My sister's courage urged me on.
And I, a missile steeped in hate,
Hurled forward like a connon-ball
by the resistless hand of fate,
Rushed wildly, madly through it all.
I stemmed the level flames of hell,
O'er bayonet bars of death I broke,
I was so near when Cleburne fell,
I heard the muffled bullet stroke!
But all in vain. In dull despair
I saw the storm of conflict die;
Low lay the Southern banner fair,
And yonder flag was waving high.
God, what a triumph had the foe!
Laurels, arches, trumpet-blare;
All around the earth their songs did go,
Thundering through heaven their shouts did tear.
My mother, gray and bent with years,
Hoarding love's withered aftermath,
Her sweet eyes burnt too dry for tears,
Sat in the dust of Sherman's path.
My father, broken, helpless, poor,
A gloomy, nerveless giant stood,
Too strong to cower and endure,
Too weak to fight for masterhood.
My boyhood's home, a blackened heap
Where lizards crawled and briers grew,
Had felt the fire of vengeance creep,
The crashing round-shot hurtle through.
I had no country, all was lost,
I closed my eyes and longed to die,
While past me stalked the awful ghost
Of mangled, murdered Liberty.
The scars upon my body burned,
I felt a heel upon my throat,
A heel that ground and grinding turned
With each triumphal trumpet note.
"Grind on!" I creid, "nor doubt that I,
(If all your necks were one and low
As mine is now) delightedly
Would cut it by a single blow!"
That was a dark night; but day is here,
The crowning victory is won;
Hark, how the sixty millions cheer,
With Freedom's flag across the sun!
I a traitor! Who are you
That dare to breathe that word to me?
You never wore the Union blue,
No wounds attest your loyalty!
I do detest the stuler's clerk,
Who skulked and dodged till peace had come,
Then found it most congenial work
To beat the politician's drum.
I clasp the hand that made my scars,
I cheer the flag my foemen bore,
I shout for joy to see the stars
All on our common shield once more.
I do not cringe before you now,
Or lay my face upon the ground;
I am a man, of men a peer,
And not a cowering, cudgeled hound!
I stand and say that you were right,
I greet you with uncovered head,
Remembering many a thundering fight,
Where whistling death between us sped.
Remembering the boys in gray,
With thoughts too deep and fine for words,
I lift this cup of love to-day
To drink what only love affords.
Soldiers in blue, a health to you!
Long life and vigor oft renewed,
While on your hearts, like honey-dew,
Falls our great country's gratitude.
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY..
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information,
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
From [email protected]
As many of you know, I am a member of the Civil
War Preservation Trust. This organization is dedicated to preserving Civil War
battlefield land in it's prestine state as well as fighting the powers that be
against development of that property. This land is sacred ground in that it
often contains the graves of those who fell for what they believed was right.
To have it desicrated by black top parking lots and condos is an abomination.
Received word today that 1014 additional acres of Shiloh Battleground in
private hands is up for sale at $1566 per acre. Shiloh was the epic struggle
on April 6 and 7, 1862 where 24,000 of our forefathers fell during the two
days of combat. I can't begin to tell you how important this preservation is
to me as a veteran, historian and American. Remember, those who forget the
past are doomed to relive it! Yes, I gladly contributed enough to purchase 100
sq feet - total contribution $36.00. If you are as interested in this effort
which I believe is of significant future importance to our children,
grandchildren, etc why not join the Civil War Preservation Trust, 11 Public
Square Suite 200, Hagerstown MD 21740. Telephone 1-888-606-1400. Web site http://WWW.civil
war.org
Ted Fisher, CWPT member 103663
PS- this is a tax deductible organization.
{{{Ted}}} Thank you kind sir :D
From [email protected]
http://www.pathsofthecivilwar.com/PastFinder/civilwarmap.asp?year=1864
This looks like a marvelous site has a map you can follow battles and go from
state to state with lots of added data at the bottom of each. i searched the
Picketts one or new hope church and listed at the bottom was what units both
conf and union participated. you probably have already checked it out but just
in case.
{{{Barb}}} Great site. You folks have to check
this one out.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT..
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War",
with byproducts of laughter, and comraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"
by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically
the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online"
environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this
"Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know
it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social
happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of
Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a
seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of
upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the
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As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have
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automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside."
AND Hey! TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up"
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11/14/02 - Our Special Monthly session of Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil
War
11/21/02 - OPEN CHAT
11/28/02 - THANKSGIVING - This is a holiday for your Hosts so they can spend the
day with their families, just as you will be doing. If after all the day's
activities, you want to drop in, you might just find one or more of us there.
12/05/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/12/02 - Our Special Monthly session of Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil
War
12/19/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/26/02 - To be announced. Heh Heh Maybe we ought to sing Christmas Carols....
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
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GFS Jim, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Amy
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
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We had a great time Thursday night. We
had a second session of Civil War Letters, Songs and Poems :D We read a number
of Letters and one of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's Poems "The Cumberland."
As usual, many questions and answers regarding ancestors or regiments. We
certainly enjoyed some newcomers this week and hope they enjoyed themselves
enough to return. You know we've developed quite a library of
"Introductions" that Jayne and I fire off when someone is about to
tell a story, or read a letter, poem or song. It's become quite a challenge to
deliver just the right introduction for the HOST about to read.... Heh Heh
MM3C11259 accused me of drinking something strange last Thursday at one of the
Introductions. Heh Heh It was just my imagination. You'll have to come watch us
outdo one another. :D
Next Thursday is the "OPEN CHAT" about Civil War History. Your choice;
come on out and enjoy with us.
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"Coming Events"
"Uncle Chuck's" Civil War Calendar!!
HOST GFS Chuck has been providing us
with some excellent Civil War Events around the country so as long as he keeps
sending them we'll keep this "Town Crier" up.......
[email protected] sent this little tidbit
into the newsletter so we'll post it right here.
The Capitol Brigade of the North Carolina
Division Sons of Confederate Veterans is arranging a private showing of the
new feature film "Gods and Generals" in Raleigh. The date for
this private screening will be set in January.
"Gods and Generals" has been called the "Southern
Braveheart." The hero of the movie is Thomas J. "Stonewall"
Jackson. Robert E. Lee is portrayed by acclaimed actor Robert Duvall. To view
this film in a theater full of fellow Confederates will be akin to the Atlanta
opening of "Gone With The Wind."
To reserve a ticket, contact Burgwyn Camp Commander Thomas J. Smith Jr. at
2009 East Garner Road, Raleigh, NC 27610, by telephone at (919) 772-7786, or
by e-mail at [email protected]
and let him know how many tickets you want.
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in the Genealogy Forum of America On-Line.
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Editor's Note: I sincerely encourage you to
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, Stories or articles that you
have in our Civil War History Files through the new Military Resources Website.
We are trying "beef up" our Library and now those of you who have
patiently stuck with us who aren't AOL Members can now participate. There is
also an area for you to upload photos, if you would desire to share those with
the Civil War History community. On the Web Site, there are links to our Civil
War Library (Files, Firesides, and Photo's).
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE
REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
Every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the
newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank
You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We hope to
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the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will
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for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy
to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere
to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although
we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D
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Did you know?
Saturday [September 20, 1862] our regiment crossed the battle-field and went
into camp near Sharpsburg, there rejoining the brigade, which was now commanded
by Colonel Richard Coulter of the 11th Pennsylvania; General Geroge L. Hartsuff,
its former commander, had been severely in the battle. Coulter was a big, quick
man, vigorous, impatient, and often violent in speech and action. We felt an
immediate liking to him.
We changed camp several times, finally settling down near the river and about
three miles west of the town. An incident occurring there gave rise to a story
that grew to fabulous proportions, multiplying converts to Christianity and the
baptist persuasion, until it bore to our Northern homes the glad tidings that
entire regiments had enlisted in the army of the Lord. The way it began was
this. Our chaplain, the Reverend George Bullen, baptized in the chill autumnal
waters of the Potomac two men or our regiment, who had confessed their faith
before they had left home. A few days later, Chaplain Bullen paid his respects
to Colonel Coulter at brigade headquarters; and, declining as superfluous the
customary social appetizer of old Bourbon, he told the Colonel all about the
baptisms. He dwelt upon the probably good effects, both godly and military; the
men, he felt sure, would be the more amenable to orders and discipline; he had
not omitted, he said, to remind them that they should render unto Caesar. Now it
happened that Colonel Coulter, though commanding the brigade, was jealously
attentive to the growing reputation of his regiment. He interrupted suddenly:
"How many men did you say you dipped, Chaplain?"
"I baptized two, Colonel."
"Orderly!" The Colonel's tone was peremptory. "Tell my adjutant
to detail a sergeant to take a man from each company down to the river and
baptize him in the Methodist persuasion. I can't allow any damned Baptist to
supplant my authority, either spiritual or temporal."
-- Major Abner R. Small
.............and there you have it.
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it
out. Hope these answer the mail :D
Editor's Note: The new Military Resouces Website (Website is listed above in the
Fireside) has a myriad of options for you. Here are some the choices: US
Military Records, Conscription/Draft Records, Civil War Battle Names, Secession
of the Confederate States, Your Civil War Ancestors - Where to Begin, Military
Resources on the Internet, links to the Stories, Files and Talks of the American
Civil War History Chat on AOL, message boards and many, many others. Your
comments and suggestions are always welcome.
Additional Note from the Webmaster: Although we are thrilled to provide this
area for you now, we want you to know that we are still building it and MORE
files, Regimental Histories, etc., will be available in the near future. Stay
Tuned!
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Websites we've received:
From: HOST GFS [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Local Link for Veteran's of All Wars
http://www.geocities.com/easternusresearch/warlink.html
AMERICAN CIVIL WAR DIARIES of Wentworth DOW (1829-1904)
http://www.gwdow.net/rn909_wentworth_dow.htm
AMERICAN CIVIL WAR. 36th OHIO VOLUNTEER INFANTRY
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/36OVI/
U.S. AIR FORCE
http://www.af.mil/
U.S. ARMY
http://www.army.mil/
U.S. COAST GUARD
http://www.uscg.mil/uscg.shtm
U.S. NAVY (includes MARINE CORPS pages)
http://www.navy.mil/
VIETNAM VETERANS Home Page
http://www.vietvet.org/index.htm
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works... If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members see your request,
some being in the near vicinity, are willing to assist, and can email you
directly (This protects your privacy) to work out the details. We HIGHLY
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free"
assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage
costs). Do unto others as.... you know
:-)
Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the
"Fireside"!!
HOST GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US
KNOW!!!!!
Thanks!! - The Editors
We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their
screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor
their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-)....
We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....
NOTE: If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
and make sure that you tell him HOST GFS Jayne told you to write to him. He will
give it priority and see what he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin ([email protected])
does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13,000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
The souces for the research is:
There are 2 online databases to do lookups.....One by name...one by Company and
Regiment. He also has a copy of the Dorence Atwater Death list which has the
names and grave numbers of 12,960 graves with only 460 marked as " UNKNOWN
" This along with a CD he has that contains 34,000 names of the 45,000 who
were imprisoned there which helps him find prisoner records because of
misspellings of the names or alternate names. He also has the contined update
database which is dated July 19 2002 . Kevin visits the prison site every couple
of weeks and has access to the onsite databases as well as the physical files.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/ANDERSONVILLE/PRISON.html
From: [email protected]
The Confederate Territory of Arizona encompassed
the Southern thirds of the current states of New Mexico and Arizona including
the Gadsden Purchase. The citizens allied themselves with the Confederacy in
1861 for several reasons: the discontinuance of Wells Fargo which was the
principal mode of communication, the withdrawal and shipment east of most of
the Federal troops and the resultant quantum increase of indian depredations.
Masilla, located just south of present day Las Cruces New Mexico was the
territorial capitol and the territory remained a confederate territory for 2
years. .
Comments from Texzilla2: "That would be
"Mesilla." I grew up not far from there in El Paso, and I have access
to the Arizona ordinance of secession."
From: [email protected]
We often forget a third adversary during the
Civil War. While Indians under Gen Stand Waite fought for the south, A portion
of the first Minnesota volunteers never went to war against the Confederates-
instead it fought against the Sioux and protected Minnesota citizens against
their depredations. Dragoon Springs near Tucson Arizona was the site furthest
west involving the deaths of Confederate troops, when Apaches under Cochese
ambushed them in 1862 killing 4 and capturing 25 horses and 30 mules. The 4
Confederates are still buried at the springs. Once the Confederates were
defeated, Fort Union commenced Federal campaigns between 1863-65 against the
Apaches, Kiowas, Utes, Comanches, Navajos and Cheyennes.
Comments from Texzilla2: "I have access to
the various treaties between the Confederate government and the various Indian
tribes. A small battle at Picacho Pass between Tucson and present-day Phoenix
was fought between Confederates and the yankees."
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OUR WEEKLY READING
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, and Poems evenings)
Butler, Bates Co. Mo. June 1,
1862
Dear Sister Cynthia.
The 29th the wind blew hard & the Tests as well as every thing else was a
cloud of dust. Next day I was on Guard, & yesterday I just comencd this
letter when a messenger came from Johnstown with foaming stead stating that a
small party with baggage train from here to Osceola had been attacked by a
larger party of Rebel Jay Hawkers. I volunteered with two other of our Co. &
as many from each of the six Cos here to go to the rescue. In less than twenty
minutes we were on the raod. Our Horses were let out to Fourteen miles an hour
all hands expecting for once to have some fighting. But it turned out as usual
we were to late, for about Fifteen minutes after the engagement commenced a
party of Co. L. came up. They were on their way from Clinton to this place. The
rebels took to the brush.
Our boys followed them but the brush is so thick at this season of the year that
they all escaped. One or two of there men were wounded. Our loss was one horse
killed. One man shot in the foot. One through his coat collar, another throught
the hat.
The contemptable J.H.s have the advantage of us now & they use it too. It is
folly to even attempt to hunt them in the brush. They lay in ambush & shoot
a Soldier where ever they can. Not long since Three of our men were killed &
one severely wounded while out after Forage. The rebels fired at them while
watering at a creek. One escaped to give the alarm. the killed were bruitaly
stabed and heads nearly mashed in the ground also Robed of every thing they had
even boots. The men killed were from Cos C. & D. Last week Three men were
killed at Osceola in nearly the same manner ..... A man was also shot from Co.
I. Three or Four days ago near this place. as yet we have only succeeded in
killing one of the miscreants. But now a special order has= been issued to shoot
Tow of the prisoners we have in our prison for every soldier that is shot. I
think this order will be carried out. We have some hard cases in prison here
& about Forthy of them too. nearly every night some of our Pickets are fired
at, or fire to some one. I am one of the unfortunate ones I can never get a shot
or scarcely ever have an occassion to shoot. I go on nearly every scout but
cannot shoot a secesh. They say we will not scout much more here. I hope then we
will leave this miserable God forsaken country where we will have something to
do. I observe those that lay around camp the most are the most sickly. There is
a lot in every Co. that is never ready for duty, never go a scouting or scarcely
anything else, except to their rations, and they are always behind. They think
so much gained. But they mistake for it is an injury to their hearlh. Our Co. is
Generally healthy. as for myself I weigh One hundred Fifty Eight lbs. never
better in my life
Truly Yours
Wm O. Gulick
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY..
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information,
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
From [email protected]
As many of you know, I am a member of the Civil
War Preservation Trust. This organization is dedicated to preserving Civil War
battlefield land in it's prestine state as well as fighting the powers that be
against development of that property. This land is sacred ground in that it
often contains the graves of those who fell for what they believed was right.
To have it desicrated by black top parking lots and condos is an abomination.
Received word today that 1014 additional acres of Shiloh Battleground in
private hands is up for sale at $1566 per acre. Shiloh was the epic struggle
on April 6 and 7, 1862 where 24,000 of our forefathers fell during the two
days of combat. I can't begin to tell you how important this preservation is
to me as a veteran, historian and American. Remember, those who forget the
past are doomed to relive it! Yes, I gladly contributed enough to purchase 100
sq feet - total contribution $36.00. If you are as interested in this effort
which I believe is of significant future importance to our children,
grandchildren, etc why not join the Civil War Preservation Trust, 11 Public
Square Suite 200, Hagerstown MD 21740. Telephone 1-888-606-1400. Web site http://WWW.civil
war.org
Ted Fisher, CWPT member 103663
PS- this is a tax deductible organization.
{{{Ted}}} Thank you kind sir :D We'll leave this
for awhile.
From [email protected]
The first agreement for the exchange of
prisoners adopted on July 22, 1862 and signed by Gen. John Dix for the union
and Gen. D.H. Hill for the confederacy stipulated that all prisoners were to
be exchanged within 10 days of their capture. The agreement also included a
formula for exchanges- Enlisted men were exchanged on a one for one basis, but
officers were valued according to rank. A captain was equal to 2 lieutenants
or 6 captured privates. A Major General was equal to 30 of the enemy's
enlisted men.
"Ted" Thanks for this response to a previously asked question.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT..
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War",
with byproducts of laughter, and comraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and
actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment,
said it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online"
environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this
"Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know
it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the
social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing
of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save
you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of
upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in
the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.
As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have
entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we
automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly
Fireside."
AND Hey! TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire
up" with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more
of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from
distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we
will comply with your wishes "post-haste".
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****
Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden
Gates Chat Room (On AOL Only) with hosts HOST
GFS Amy, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Jim and our many
faithful friends :)
11/21/02 - OPEN CHAT
11/28/02 - THANKSGIVING - This is a holiday for your Hosts so they can spend
the day with their families, just as you will be doing. If after all the day's
activities, you want to drop in, you might just find one or more of us there.
12/05/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/12/02 - Our Special Monthly session of Letters, Songs and Poems of the
Civil War
12/19/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/26/02 - To be announced. Heh Heh Maybe we ought to sing Christmas
Carols....
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's & Hostess's :-)
HOST
GFS Jim, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Amy
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 24 Nov 2002
Our Mission: To serve all genealogists by
providing an enjoyable online environment with as many helpful and reliable
resources as possible.
If you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter by email, please
have them send an email to HOST
GFS Jim and HOST GFS Jayne with subscribe in the subject line.
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Well, the very first thing that needs
to be said this week is that Jayne, Amy, TEG and myself wish all of you a Happy
Thanksgiving surrounded by your families. If part of your families are serving
our country then we sincerely add an additional prayer for their safety,
well-being and quick return home. The staff and I are going to take a break from
the Chat Room this week and we're going to suspend the newsletter next week as
well.
Gather up some great tales and we'll join you again in the Chat Room a week from
Thursday (5 Dec). The Chat Room will certainly be open for you this Thursday, it
was just be "Unhosted".
Thursday - 5 Dec - is "OPEN CHAT" about Civil War History. Your choice
of discussion; come on out and enjoy with us.
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"Coming Events"
"Uncle Chuck's" Civil War Calendar!!
HOST GFS Chuck has been providing us
with some excellent Civil War Events around the country so as long as he keeps
sending them we'll keep this "Town Crier" up.......
[email protected] sent this little tidbit
into the newsletter so we'll post it right here.
The Capitol Brigade of the North Carolina
Division Sons of Confederate Veterans is arranging a private showing of the
new feature film "Gods and Generals" in Raleigh. The date for
this private screening will be set in January.
"Gods and Generals" has been called the "Southern
Braveheart." The hero of the movie is Thomas J. "Stonewall"
Jackson. Robert E. Lee is portrayed by acclaimed actor Robert Duvall. To view
this film in a theater full of fellow Confederates will be akin to the Atlanta
opening of "Gone With The Wind."
To reserve a ticket, contact Burgwyn Camp Commander Thomas J. Smith Jr. at
2009 East Garner Road, Raleigh, NC 27610, by telephone at (919) 772-7786, or
by e-mail at [email protected]
and let him know how many tickets you want.
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Civil War History & Genealogy
Forum Related Activities and Sites
Available for your Enjoyment and Research
War Between the States (Tracing your Civil War Ancestors)
With HOST GFS Amy and HOST
GFS Wolford on
Friday evenings at 9:00 PM EDT in the Golden
Gates Chat Room
of the Genealogy Forum (ONLY ON AOL) at KEYWORD: ROOTS
"Genealogy Forum's Military Resources" Website
devoted to Civil War History and the material presented in
the American Civil War History Special Interest Group
in the Genealogy Forum of America On-Line.
The address is:
http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Military/
The Weekly Fireside Archives
http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Military/Fireside.htm
The Genealogy Forum Mailing List Signup
You may subscribe by sending an email to:
[email protected]
Title the subject of the email SUBSCRIPTION and type "Subscribe"
in the body of the email message.
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Editor's Note: I sincerely encourage you to
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, Stories or articles that you
have in our Civil War History Files through the new Military Resources Website.
We are trying "beef up" our Library and now those of you who have
patiently stuck with us who aren't AOL Members can now participate. There is
also an area for you to upload photos, if you would desire to share those with
the Civil War History community. On the Web Site, there are links to our Civil
War Library (Files, Firesides, and Photo's).
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE
REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
Every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the
newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank
You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We hope to
give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive
the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will
quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to
clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the
newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you
for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy
to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere
to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although
we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D
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Did you know?
.............and there you have it.
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it
out. Hope these answer the mail :D
Editor's Note: The new Military Resouces Website (Website is listed above in the
Fireside) has a myriad of options for you. Here are some the choices: US
Military Records, Conscription/Draft Records, Civil War Battle Names, Secession
of the Confederate States, Your Civil War Ancestors - Where to Begin, Military
Resources on the Internet, links to the Stories, Files and Talks of the American
Civil War History Chat on AOL, message boards and many, many others. Your
comments and suggestions are always welcome.
Additional Note from the Webmaster: Although we are thrilled to provide this
area for you now, we want you to know that we are still building it and MORE
files, Regimental Histories, etc., will be available in the near future. Stay
Tuned!
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Websites we've received:
From: [email protected]
Union Case Repairs
http://members.aol.com/civwar/cases.htm
DESCRIPTION: Long-time Union Case Collector, Bill Verosko, is an expert at
making repairs in these Civil War era cases - often called "Gutta Percha"
- that hold our ambrotype, daguerreotype and tintype images.
From: [email protected]
Confederate Officer Picture Site
http://www.archives.state.al.us/conoffalb/photo102.html
From: [email protected]
Civil War Soldiers of Hart Co, KY
http://www.censusdiggins.com/civilwarky.html
Kentucky Soldiers Who Died AT Andersonville Prison Soldier List
http://www.censusdiggins.com/ky_prisoners.html
Online Census Finder Kentucky
http://www.censusfinder.com/kentucky.htm
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works... If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members see your request,
some being in the near vicinity, are willing to assist, and can email you
directly (This protects your privacy) to work out the details. We HIGHLY
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free"
assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage
costs). Do unto others as.... you know
:-)
Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the
"Fireside"!!
HOST GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US
KNOW!!!!!
Thanks!! - The Editors
We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their
screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor
their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-)....
We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....
NOTE: If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
and make sure that you tell him HOST GFS Jayne told you to write to him. He will
give it priority and see what he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin ([email protected])
does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13,000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
The souces for the research is:
There are 2 online databases to do lookups.....One by name...one by Company and
Regiment. He also has a copy of the Dorence Atwater Death list which has the
names and grave numbers of 12,960 graves with only 460 marked as " UNKNOWN
" This along with a CD he has that contains 34,000 names of the 45,000 who
were imprisoned there which helps him find prisoner records because of
misspellings of the names or alternate names. He also has the contined update
database which is dated July 19 2002 . Kevin visits the prison site every couple
of weeks and has access to the onsite databases as well as the physical files.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/ANDERSONVILLE/PRISON.html
From: [email protected]
The War of the Rebellion records
FYI. At last, the 'Official Records' of the Civil War - "War of the
Rebellion; Records of the Union and Confederate Armies" (US Govt., 1909
etc.) - are now free and on line, much thanks to Cornell Univ. A truly superb
set for your CW searches.
http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/moa/browse.monographs/waro.html
Notice too that the complete 1880 census is now on LDS, and it too is free, NO
thanks to any of the genealogy for cash sites !!! Just click on census and
fill in the blanks. It too is great. Here is that site:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
Paul
Thanks Paul
From: [email protected]
Does anyone know of a JOHN A FREILER/FRIELER who
served as a Confederate in the Washing 5th Artillery Division in the Civial
War? I sent for the records, but got nothing more than what I got off the
internet which was close to nothing.
thanks Shirley
{{Shirley}} We'll see what we can find out from
the membership.
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OUR WEEKLY READING
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, and Poems evenings)
The following is reproduced in part from Stephen Vincent Benet's Pulitzer
Prize-winning narrative epic poem, "John Brown's Body,"
published in 1928.
The Congressmen Came Out to See Bull Run
The congressmen came out to see Bull Run,
The congressmen who like free shows and spectacles.
They brought their wives and carriages along,
The brought their speeches and their picnic-lunch,
The black constituent-hats and their devotion:
Some even brought a little whiskey, too.
(A little whiskey is a comforting thing
For a congressmen in the sun, in the heat of the sun.)
The bearded congressmen with orator's mouths,
The fine, clean-shaved, Websterian congressmen,
Come out to see the gladiator's show
Like Iliad gods, wrapped in the sacred cloud
Of Florida-water, wisdom and bay-rum,
Of free cigars, democracy and votes,
That lends such portliness to congressmen.
(The gates fly wide, the bronze troop marches out
Into the stripped and deadly circus-ring,
"Ave, Caesar!" the cry goes up, and shakes
The purple awning over Caesar's seat.)
"Ave, Caesar!, Ave O congressmen,
We who are about to die.
Salute you, congressmen!"
Eleven States,
New York, Rhode Island, Maine,
Connecticut, Michigan and the gathered West,
Salute you, congressmen!
The red-fezzed Fire-Zouaves, flamingo-bright,
Salute you, congressmen!
The raw boys still in their civilian clothers
Salute you, congressmen!
The second Wisconsin in its homespun grey,
Salutes you, congressmen!
The Garibaldi Guards in cocksfeather hats,
Salute you, congressmen!
The Second Ohio with their Bedouin-caps,
Salutes you, congressmen
Serman's brigade, grey-headed Heintzelman,
Ricketts' and Griffin's doomed and valiant guns,
The tough, hard-bitten regulars of Sykes
Who covered the retreat with the Marines,
Burnside and Porter, Willcox and McDowell,
All the vast, unprepared, militia-mass
Of boys in red and yellow Zouave pants,
Who carried peach-preserves inside their kits
And dreamt of being generals overnight;
The straggling companies where every man
Was a sovereign and a voter -- the slack regiments
Where every company marched a different step;
The clumsy and unwieldy-new brigades
Not yet distempered into battle-worms;
The whole, huge, innocent army, ready to fight
But only hslf-taught in the tricks of fighting,
Ready to die to picture-postcard boys
While fighting steill had banners and a sword
And just as ready to run in blind mob-panic,
Salutes you with a vast and thunderous cry,
Ave, Caesar, ave, O congressment,
Ave, O Iliad gods who forced the fight!
You bring your carriages and your picnic-lunch
To cheer us in our need.
You come with speeches,
Your togas smell of heroism and bay-rum.
You are the people and the voice of the people
And, when the fight is done, your carriages
Will bear you safely, through the streaming rout
Of broken troops, throwing their guns away.
You come to see the gladiator's show,
But from a high place, as befits the wise;
You will not see the long windrows of men
Strewn like dead pears before the Henry House
Or the ston-wall of Jackson breathe its parched
Devouring breath upon the failing charge,
Ave, Caesar, ave, O congressmen,
Cigar-smoke wraps you in a godlike cloud,
And if you are not to depart from us
As easily and divinely as you came,
It hardly matters,
Fighting Joe Hooker once
Said with that tart, unbridled tongue of his
That made so many mindless enemies,
"Who ever saw a dead cavalryman?"
The phrase
Stings with a deedle sharpness, just or not,
But even he was never heard to say,
"Who ever saw a dead congressman?"
And yet, he was a man with a sharp tongue.
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY..
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information,
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
From [email protected]
As many of you know, I am a member of the Civil
War Preservation Trust. This organization is dedicated to preserving Civil War
battlefield land in it's prestine state as well as fighting the powers that be
against development of that property. This land is sacred ground in that it
often contains the graves of those who fell for what they believed was right.
To have it desicrated by black top parking lots and condos is an abomination.
Received word today that 1014 additional acres of Shiloh Battleground in
private hands is up for sale at $1566 per acre. Shiloh was the epic struggle
on April 6 and 7, 1862 where 24,000 of our forefathers fell during the two
days of combat. I can't begin to tell you how important this preservation is
to me as a veteran, historian and American. Remember, those who forget the
past are doomed to relive it! Yes, I gladly contributed enough to purchase 100
sq feet - total contribution $36.00. If you are as interested in this effort
which I believe is of significant future importance to our children,
grandchildren, etc why not join the Civil War Preservation Trust, 11 Public
Square Suite 200, Hagerstown MD 21740. Telephone 1-888-606-1400. Web site http://WWW.civil
war.org
Ted Fisher, CWPT member 103663
PS- this is a tax deductible organization.
{{{Ted}}} Thank you kind sir :D We'll leave this
for awhile.
From [email protected]
you guys continue to do good works.
Erik
"Thanks Eric"
From [email protected]
In a message dated 11/17/2002 11:16:14 PM
Pacific Standard Time, HOST GFS Jim writes:
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
Jim,
Wouldn't this be lovely to be put on the WW2 Memorial? Holmes was something
else.
Grace
{{{Grace}}} That it would; and "Yes"
Holmes is indeed something else.
=========================================
WHAT WE ARE ABOUT..
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War",
with byproducts of laughter, and comraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"
by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically
the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online"
environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this
"Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know
it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social
happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of
Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a
seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of
upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the
Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.
As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have
entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we
automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside."
AND Hey! TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up"
with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you....
Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from distribution of
this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we will comply with your
wishes "post-haste".
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****
Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden
Gates Chat Room (On AOL Only) with hosts HOST
GFS Amy, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Jim and our many faithful
friends :)
11/28/02 - THANKSGIVING - This is a holiday for your Hosts so they can spend the
day with their families, just as you will be doing. If after all the day's
activities, you want to drop in, you might just find one or more of us there.
12/05/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/12/02 - Our Special Monthly session of Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil
War
12/19/02 - OPEN CHAT
12/26/02 - To be announced. Heh Heh Maybe we ought to sing Christmas Carols.....
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's & Hostess's :-)
HOST
GFS Jim, HOST GFS Jayne, HOST GFS TEG and HOST GFS Amy
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