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"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 02 May 2004
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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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This past Thursday and Friday nights we chatted about the
homefront during the Civil War era. Some recipes were shared, also some
ettiquette adivce.
"Spitting is a filthy habit, and annoys one in almost every quarter,
in-doors and out. Since vulgarity has had its way so extensively amongst us,
every youth begins to smoke and spit before he has well cut his teeth. Smoking
is unquestionably so great a pleasure to those accustomed to it, that it must
not be condemmed, yet the spitting associated with it detracts very much from
the enjoyment. No refined person will spit where ladies are present, or in any
public promenade; the habit is disgusting in the extreme, and one would almost
wish that it could be checked in public by means of law."
Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have
plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.
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MUSIC
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If you have some favorite music, tell us a little about it and we'll put it here in the newsletter.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United
States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that
is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period"
in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM
ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL
only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both
nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories.
We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of
the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're
up to.
You can visit the other Genealogy chats (AOL only) by going to
KEYWORD: Parenting Chats > scroll down to Genealogy and click.
Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy
Community > Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times
(scroll down to War Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].
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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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WILLIAM BLACK
Co, B - 55th Illinois
This sure ain’t what I thought
Bein’ a soldier was gonna be.
Sure I knew there’d be lots a marchin’
But I’d followed the plow for years.
I even knew the food wouldn’t be the best,
But ma had died when I was just ten.
Sleepin’ in tents wouldn’t be too bad
As long as there were blankets to keep me warm.
I knew there’d be shootin’ and killin’.
Shootin’ and killin’ -
That’s what a soldier’s s’posed to do.
I was prepared for death
To be at my stoop any time.
But I sure didn’t think,
Back in Chicago when I joined up,
That I’d ever be told, by my own Colonel,
To kill one of our own men
Simply because he went home
To be with his wife
When she buried their baby boy.
By Frank Crawford
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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to
[email protected]
From: Cyndi's List of new websites
URL: http://www.fairfaxrifles.org
TITLE: 17th Virginia Infantry, Co. D, "Fairfax
Rifles"
DESCRIPTION: Re-enactors based in historic Fairfax Court
House, Va.
representing Northern Virginia Confederates.
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URL: http://cwpublishing.com/
TITLE: cwpublishing
DESCRIPTION: Old Hickory - The Autobiography of Horace
Hopkins Shaw.
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URL: http://mysite.verizon.net/ingallsa/Diary/jrnlintro.htm
TITLE: Civil War Journal of Herbert E. COTES of
New Woodstock, Madison
County, NY
DESCRIPTION: The Civil War Journal of Herbert E. Cotes
of New
Woodstock, Madison County, NY, Apr 19, 1862Sept 16, 1862Eighth Regiment
Kansas Volunteers - Company I.
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URL: http://www.amerindgen.com/index.html
TITLE: American Indian Genealogy Help Center
DESCRIPTION: Native American Indian help for all tribes
for beginners
and experienced researchers.
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URL: http://www.voy.com/105263/
TITLE: American Indian Genealogy Message Board
DESCRIPTION: Queries related to Native American Indian
genealogy
answered by an accredited genealogist.
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From: JRose
THE DECATUR DAILY, Decatur, Alabama, Sunday, April 25, 2004
Granddaughter finds Civil War private buried in Mississippi
By Deangelo McDaniel , DAILY Staff Writer
LANDERSVILLE The tears overflowed her hazel eyes and rolled down her face like a
flooded stream.
She pulled her glasses off, reached over, touched the tombstone, and in a
low voice said, "It's going to be all right. Your daddy loved you."
Every time Sunni Evan Montgomery talked about Civil War soldier Stephen
Little, she cried. She was especially emotional when she sat next to the grave
marker of Juley Ales Montgomery and talked about Little.
Juley Montgomery was Little's only daughter. She was an infant when he left her
to defend the Confederacy. He never came home.
The details of his death are unknown, but military records support
Montgomery's belief that Little was killed in a skirmish near Brown's
Plantation in Mississippi almost one year after he joined the Confederate
Army.
To read the rest of the story go to:
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http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/040425/grave.shtml
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From: An Madra Rua
First
Search [OCLC - Reference
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FirstSearch is an online service that gives library professionals and end users
access to a rich collection of reference databases. With FirstSearch, materials
in your library’s collection are highlighted in results from searches in
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it to us.
HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
[email protected]
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From: An Madra Rua
This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html
PART
4....... March 1865
Albert Underwood Civil War Diary
Wed. March 16: Quite chilly morning, are running up the Red
river. Reached Alexandria at 4 oclock, very crooked river, narrow and deep. The
infantry all went ashore, we took off all our horses and put them in a large
stable. The Rebs evacuated at our approach leaving a lot of corn and other
things behind. Lt Col. Cravens and I took a walk up town, quite nice place.
There are no fortifications here of any importance at all. Town rather new.
Thurs. March 17: Beautiful day. Alexandria is a nice town and is the seat
of Justice of Rapides Parish. The town is quite level. I walked up through town
again today. Three pieces of artillery were found near here today and brought
in. There is a large number of hogsheads of good sugar here, considerable cotton
was found here and is being loaded on the marine and gunboats. The Rebs had a
half dozen more transports here, they burnt their ferry boat.
Fri. March 18: Very pleasant today. Still laying up yet waiting for the
river to rise, or something else, I don't know what. The river is rising slowly.
Foraging parties are sent out every day, bringing in cattle, hogs, sheep and
many other things of value. Gen. Smith and 5 boats came up this evening. They
blowed up Ft. DeRusy before they left. Beautiful level country here. Pineville,
where the military Academy was, is 2 miles from here.
Sat. March 19: Rather warm and has the appearance of rain today. Some of
Bank's Cavalry advanced come in this morning. I took a ride through town today.
Nothing of interest has transpired today other than the LAUREL HILL has arrived
from New Orleans this evening bringing the most of Gen. Bank's staff officers,
Gen. Leen, Chief of Cavalry, Gen. Arnold, Chief of Artillery, Gen Stone, Chief
of Staff. Rained this evening, cavalry division arrived.
Sun. March 20: Rained this morning. I took a ride up town this morning
and saw Bank's 1st Division of cavalry coming in. It has remained cloudy all day
but has not rained but little. Feel unwell today. A mail was sent out today. We
are expecting Bank's forces to arrive now every day. A brigade of the 16th Army
Corp is on the other side of the river bayou Rapides north of town.
Mon. March 21: A reconnoitering force was ordered out this morning. We
unloaded our battery before day. Rained this morning and quite disagreeable. We
started out just after daylight up the bayou rapids in a northwest direction,
made a forced march to Pino Hill. There was some skirmishing, formed in line of
battle twice. Our cavalry surprised and captured four pieces of artillery and
250 prisoners about midnight with a lot of ammunition, horses and equipment.
Tues. March 22: Rained considerable and was very disagreeable last night.
We went up this morning after the captured guns. Crossed the bayou, found a
strong natural fortification on a high hill with a wide levee bottom on the
south and east. Started back about 11 oclock with 4 pieces captured artillery,
250 prisoners, about 200 horses and equipment. We went into camp at 5 oclock in
9 miles of Alexandria. We were out about 28 miles, a beautiful country all the
way out.
Wed. March 23: Left camp at 7 oclock. Had good roads and reached
Alexandria about 11 oclock. Found a Negro Brigade had come in from Port Hudson.
The LIMINANRY came up this morning from New Orleans. We took our old quarters on
the CHOUTEAU. My knapsack and all my clothes, writing and other valuables were
stolen while I was gone on the reconnaissance. River still on the rise. We have
not put our Battery on the boat yet.
Thurs. March 24: Cloudy and cool this morning. Rained though the day and
was very disagreeable, loaded our battery in the afternoon. The BLACKHAWK came
up this evening, the MESTEAS yesterday and the LaUrel HILL came up about 10
oclock in the night. We received orders to unload our battery about 10 oclock in
the night but the order was countermanded in an hour afterwards. Gen. Banks came
up on the BLACKHAWK this evening.
Fri. March 25: The boats dropped down this morning to wood. Part of Gen
Banks' force came in today. The 1st Indiana Heavy Artillery came with them. I
saw Dan and the other boys. Boats returned in the evening and we unloaded after
dark with orders to start at 6 oclock in the morning and go up the river 30
miles to embark. The LaCrosse came up from Vicksburg this morning.
Sat. March 26: Left Alexandria about 9 oclock. Gen. Banks' force is not
going this morning. Very good roads and beautiful weather. Traveled through a
beautiful level countryside all the way up the bayou Rapides. Turned off the
road 1/2 mile to the left and camped along the bayou in about 18 miles of
Alexandria, close by a nice plantation house, found plenty of forage for our
horses tonight.
Sun. March 27: Left camp at 8 1/2 oclock. Passed along where we were the
night of the capture of Pine Hill. Passed up the bayou by a large dirt dam and
down another bayou or creek and went into camp near the river about 1 oclock.
The boats were to come up here and we were to embark again and go up the river.
The boats are not here yet. Gen. Banks' Cavalry Division is camped near here,
also some artillery.
Mon. March 28: Rained last night and is very muddy and disagreeable this
morning. I took a walk up the river to the cavalry camp this evening and saw my
friend Christie, now in the 1st Mo. Battery. Some of the boats are getting up
this evening, quite nice weather here this evening. The river banks are high and
steep here and the river is very crooked. Very nice country round here.
Tues. March 29: The boats are nearly all here this morning. We harnessed
and moved down to the boat about noon. Our boat dropped down about a mile to
forage and got back about dark when we got orders to load our guns, but it was
so dark and the banks so steep we abandoned the idea of loading till morning.
Beautiful weather. The pine and bluffs set in here and extend up the river. Some
swampy country here.
Wed. March 30: Commenced loading before daylight and finished soon after
sunup. The 89th Regt. came aboard about 2 oclock and we shoved off down the
river about a mile for wood and some forage and remained all night. Banks' force
camped 4 miles south of here last night, his transports have not arrived here
yet. Beautiful weather. I am getting tired waiting for the expedition to move.
Thurs. March 31: Dropped down to our old landing this morning and all our
infantry went ashore. We took our horses ashore this morning and have remained
here all day. It would take a Philadelphia lawyer to tell what kind of maneuvers
this expedition is making and what it is going to do. Foraging parties are sent
out every day. We receive no news at this place.
Continued next week.................
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From: Wmdperkins
The following was sent to me by Wmd, and for the subject, he had
"found this very interesting and moving." To read the
whole thing you can go to The
Last Salute Of The Army Of Northern Virginia
http://www.civilwarhome.com/chamberlainsurrender.htm
US Army General Joshua Chamberlain tells what happened at Appomattox, you can
see the respect that the Union troops (the Yankees) had for the Confederate
troops. So, in his words:
"Having thus formed, the brigades standing at 'order arms,' the head of the
Confederate column, General Gordon in command, and the old 'Stonewall' Jackson
Brigade leading, started down into the valley which lay between us, and
approached our lines. With my staff I was on the extreme right of the line,
mounted on horseback, and in a position nearest the Rebel solders who were
approaching our right.
"Ah, but it was a most impressive
sight, a most striking picture, to see that whole army in motion to lay down the
symbols of war and strife, that army which had fought for four terrible years
after a fashion but infrequently known in war.
"At such a time and under such
conditions I thought it eminently fitting to show some token of our feeling, and
I therefore instructed my subordinate officers to come to the position of
'salute' in the manual of arms as each body of the Confederates passed before
us.
"It was not a 'present arms,'
however, not a 'present,' which then as now was the highest possible honor to be
paid even to a president. It was the 'carry arms,' as it was then known, with
musket held by the right hand and perpendicular to the shoulder. I may best
describe it as a marching salute in review.
"When General Gordon came
opposite me I had the bugle blown and the entire line came to 'attention,'
preparatory to executing this movement of the manual successively and by
regiments as Gordon's columns should pass before our front, each in turn.
"The General was riding in
advance of his troops, his chin drooped to his breast, downhearted and dejected
in appearance almost beyond description. At the sound of that machine like snap
of arms, however, General Gordon started, caught in a moment its significance,
and instantly assumed the finest attitude of a soldier. He wheeled his horse
facing me, touching him gently with the spur, so that the animal slightly
reared, and as he wheeled, horse and rider made one motion, the horse's head
swung down with a graceful bow, and General Gordon dropped his swordpoint to his
toe in salutation.
"By word of mouth General Gordon
sent back orders to the rear that his own troops take the same position of the
manual in the march past as did our line. That was done, and a truly imposing
sight was the mutual salutation and farewell.
"At a distance of possibly twelve
feet from our line, the Confederates halted and turned face towards us. Their
lines were formed with the greatest care, with every officer in his appointed
position, and thereupon began the formality of surrender.
"Bayonets were affixed to
muskets, arms stacked, and cartridge boxes unslung and hung upon the stacks.
Then, slowly and with a reluctance that was appealingly pathetic, the torn and
tattered battleflags were either leaned against the stacks or laid upon the
ground. The emotion of the conquered soldiery was really sad to witness. Some of
the men who had carried and followed those ragged standards through the four
long years of strife, rushed, regardless of all discipline, from the ranks, bent
about their old flags, and pressed them to their lips with burning tears.
"And it can well be imagined,
too, that there was no lack of emotion on our side, but the Union men were held
steady in their lines, without the least show of demonstration by word or by
motion. There was, though, a twitching of the muscles of their faces, and, be it
said, their battle-bronzed cheeks were not altogether dry. Our men felt the
import of the occasion, and realized fully how they would have been affected if
defeat and surrender had been their lot after such a fearful struggle.
"Nearly an entire day was
necessary for that vast parade to pass. About 27,000 stands of arms were laid
down, with something like a hundred battleflags; cartridges were destroyed, and
the arms loaded on cars and sent off to Wilmington.
"Every token of armed hostility
was laid aside by the defeated men. No officer surrendered his side arms or
horse, if private property, only Confederate property being required, according
to the terms of surrender, dated April 9, 1865, and stating that all arms,
artillery, and public property were to be packed and stacked and turned over to
the officer duly appointed to receive them."
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks,
please let us know and we'll add it here
[email protected]
has told us if anyone wants info the the
85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book
about them. Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the
subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake
[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in
Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.
[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton
Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the
years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T.
W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if
anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent
most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through
the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two
different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does
Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's
website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in
the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great
event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include
it here in our calendar.
You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your
area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
May 7 - 9 Reenactment, Battle of Spotsylvania 140th anniversary
event in Spotsylvania County near Fredericksburg. Demonstrations and living
history all weekend. Camps open 1 pm Friday, 10 am Saturday and before dawn
Sunday. Battles at 6:30 pm Saturday, before dawn and 11 am Sunday. Candlelight
tour Saturday night. Fee charged. http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/news.html#SpotsylvaniaSchedule
Details and updates: www.spotsylvania140th.com
May 8 - 9 Gettysburg, PA Living history encampment and
demonstrations by a US Artillery unit at the Pennsylvania Memorial in the
Gettysburg National Military Park. www.nps.gov/gett
or 717-334-1124 extension 422.
May 14-16, Virginia - Reenactment, 140th anniversary of the Battle of New
Market on the historic battlefield. Information: www.vmi.edu/museum/nm or
540-740-3101. For schedule, http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/news.html#newmkt2004
May 22 - 23 Virginia - Reenactment, living history and 140th
anniversary commemoration of the Battle of Wilson's Wharf (Fort Pocahontas) at
the James River near Sherwood Forest Plantation off Route 5 between Richmond and
Williamsburg. Details: www.fortpocahontas.org
May
22 - 23 West Virginia - Living history and reenactment,
"The Battle of Lewisburg" on the Greenbrier campus of the New River
Community & Technical College in Lewisburg. Camps open 10 am-8 pm Saturday
with speakers, exhibits, and battle reenactment. Dance (all welcome) 8 pm
Saturday. Speakers, living history begin noon Sunday with a funeral cortege for
an officer killed in battle beginning at 3 pm followed by a ceremony at the
Confederate cemetery. All free. www.battleoflewisburg.org.
May
31, Gettysburg, PA - Memorial Day Parade and Ceremonies at the
Soldiers' National Cemetery at Gettysburg. 2 pm. 717-334-1124, extension 422 or
431 or www.nps.gov/gett
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Sat. June 5 & Sun., June 6 Pennypacker Mills, Schwenksville, PA
Civil War Reunion Weekend A must-see experience for the
entire family as you emerge yourselves into the Civil War era to see an
authentic military encampment, period music and fashion, guest speakers, living
history demonstrations, sutlers, artillery, and battle scenes. Ongoing
activities both days. On-site parking and refreshments available. No
pets, please. Saturday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. No charge.
JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania
Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of
authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of
1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other
merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The
Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted
free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM
September
3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin,
NJ Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
May 6 & 7, 2004 - OPEN CHAT - This is the time to bring your Civil
War related questions, whether it's about the war or the people at home, maybe
an ancestor we might help you find... bring it to us and allow us to help
you.
May 13 & 14, 2004 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights.
If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or
HOST FMLY Bill.
May 20 & 21, 2004 - OPEN CHAT
May 27 & 28 - to be announced
We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
Jayne
& Bill :)
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We had a fun two nights in our Open Chats last week.. This week brings us
our special Songs, letters and Poem nights. Do you have a letter,
exerpts from a diary, favorite Civil War song or poem? Send them to us and
we'll read them in the room. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you have some favorite music, tell us a little about it and we'll put it
here in the newsletter.
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States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie! "I think it is a noble and pious thing OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that
is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period"
in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it). If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should
read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in
the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to
[email protected].
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 09 May 2004
NOTE from Jayne: We're getting more subscribers all the time, and
I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently. I hope you
enjoy our little newsletter.
Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone
else.
NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have
plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.
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OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM
ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL
only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both
nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories.
We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of
the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're
up to.
You can visit the other Genealogy chats (AOL only) by going to
KEYWORD: Parenting Chats > scroll down to Genealogy and click.
Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy
Community > Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times
(scroll down to War Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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Some of you probably subscribe to the [email protected] mail list and may
have read this. I asked Mr. Harding for permission to include it here in
our newsletter and he very graciously gave it. While this is not about a
specific book, I think it appropriate for this section.
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Like other members of the list, I have a large home library with books on the
War, and needless to say, I do a lot of reading and studying on the War.
Yes, the authors often tend to write the books according to their views on the
War, and most times, you have to take a lot of the material with a grain of salt
and read between the lines.
One must remember that history, no matter what time period, is written by the
Victors, so naturally, the majority of the books I've read have been slanted a
bit toward the North and the Union. The few older books that were written
prior to the Political Correctness movement that are pro South tend to give good
histories, and that's why I like older books, especially ones written from the
turn of the century to around 1960. Memoirs, letters, and diaries are also
good reading as they are our history and written by the men who actually
participated in the War, and yes, many can be biased, where the writer tries to
make himself look good. I noted this in the memoirs that my own
Great-Great Grandfather wrote before his death in 1890. But we have to
remember these men were there, participated in this terrible War, and what they
wrote gives a much better and first hand perspective of things that happened to
them personally. Although my Great-Great Grandfather served in the
Confederacy, he settled here in eastern North Carolina after many years at sea,
plus, he was an immigrant.....he was German. I've found some discrepancies
in his writing, but overall, he did an excellent job. I also have letters
written home by another ancestor, of which I've posted some to the list before
he was finally killed in action. You can see the hardships, the struggles,
etc. that each of them experienced and it helps one to know more what things
were really like back then. It seems the worst thing our present day writers do
is to try and compare the men they're lives, and the laws from that time
by our present day standards and laws.....and it's like comparing apples to
oranges.
My main point in this posting is to say you can't take one author's word and
book as Gospel. The more you read from all sources, being biased toward
the North and South, is something we have to contend with to form our own
opinions. A few things you can notice in writings are names of battles to
tell if the writing is slanted toward the North or South. Union armies
lived by maps, while the Confederates were at home in their own terrain.
Federals often named battles for nearby streams or bodies of water, while he
Confederates used the names of towns. A few examples are:
Federal
Confederate
Bull Run
Manassas
Antietam (Creek)
Sharpsburg
Stone's River
Murfreesboro
Fair Oaks
Seven Pines
Elkhorn Tavern
Pea Ridge
I've found that in recent years, especially since 1990, when the Politically
Correct writing really started, there has been too much
"interpretation" of what happened by the authors and not what actually
DID happen. Since this began, we've seen more books written and published
giving a Southern point of view to counteract the books with a Northern bias.
The main thing everyone needs to know is to read it all, then form their own
opinion. Not many have the time to sit down and read from cover to cover
all the volumes of the Official Records, but they are indeed a good source
containing both quotes, etc. from the Union point of view and the Southern point
of view. History is just that, it's something that happened in the past,
and we can neither rewrite it, revise it, or change it. And the best way
to learn it is to find books with documented facts.....that's what counts.
This past weekend while in Plymouth, NC at the Living History Weekend, I had a
young girl of about 8 or 9 years old and her father talk to me. They were
Southern, in period dress (the father was in a Union uniform), and the young
girl said something that really bothered me, so I had her sit down and patiently
explained a lot of documented facts to her about the War. Although the
young girl was of Southern Heritage, I was most surprised when she told me the
Confederates were the "bad guys" and also went on to tell me the
War was fought for the sole purpose to free the slaves. I began to ask her
why she said that, and the only answer she would give (like a young child does)
was "because." I asked her again and for the second time
received the same answer. I finally told her "because" wasn't a
good answer, and asked her to explain to me why she said that. It
didn't surprise me much when she answered "Because my teacher said
so." I did my best to explain about the tariffs imposed on the South
and how the South was funding almost 95% of the Federal budget with practically
all of the money staying in the Northern States. She became very
interested then, but finally asked me about the Emancipation Proclamation that
"freed all the slaves." I explained the purpose of the document
to her, telling her it was actually a political ploy to help keep England and
France out of the War, and also was done to hopefully start a slave
insurrection, which didn't happen. I also explained how it supposedly
freed all slaves in areas of rebellion which the Federal Government had no
jurisdiction in at that time, but it freed no slaves in Union slave holding
States. Then I went on to explain to her about U.S. Grant, and how he kept
his slaves until after the War when the 13th Amendment forced him to free his
slaves. I went on and taught her a bit more, and she told me I needed to
teach her teacher about the War. It's a shame the history books in our
schools do such a poor job teaching our future generations what happened, but
it's also a shame the eachers are told what and how to teach about the War.
I asked the little girl if she liked to read, and when she said yes, I wrote
down the titles of a number of books for her to find, and explained that you
just can't go by the abbreviated version of history taught in schools today.
Her father was most appreciative and I did have to chuckle when he told her
"I'm dressed in blue today because they needed some more Yankees."
If nothing else, I sparked an interest in this young girl's mind to want to
learn more about the War from books with factual and documented information.
I can say, if that's they only thing I accomplished during the weekend, it was
well worth it. I certainly appreciated the compliment her father gave me
too....telling me he wished I could give more talks to school classes to help
better educate our youth about this time in history.
I apologize if I have talked too much about all of this, but just wanted to
share my sentiments about the ways books are done now and how the War is taught
in our public schools. I just feel we need to remember history is history,
and no matter how much our modern day authors try to interpret it and revise it,
it's still history and can't be changed. We, as adults must learn to help
teach our future generations the truth and the whole truth, the good and the
bad, so this time in our country's history will stay intact and taught as it
should be. No matter what time period in history, we just have to dig deep
and learn all the facts we can. One can not learn history from one book
alone.....we must use our God given brains to sort though it all to insure we
learn history, the facts, no matter what time period if
was.
Edward
http://ehardingwbtsancestors.homestead.com/Index.html
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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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An Madra Rua found the following on the Valley of the Shadow
website
Frederick
Nov. 11th, 1857
My Dear Aunt
As soon as possible, after the great occasion, I have seated
myself to give you some account of what has passed. You know Mittie Tyler was
here about two weeks before the wedding, so that, she and Lizzie Law, became
like old friends, indeed they seemed to take to each other directly, tho' they
are so different. Mittie is so unselfish & always like a bird -- she falls
asleep with a smile on her countenance. On Friday last, the three brides maids
from Georgetown came & you may suppose six girls made a merry house. The day
before they came Lizzie Tyler's spirits began to give way. She did not seem to
realize her leaving home until she had most of her things packed. then she gave
way to her feelings. After the girls came however, she rallied again, & with
Jane & Bettie added to them, there was no chance for low spirits. We gave up
the two rooms on the second floor to them, three in each room, & I wish you
could have been here to enjoy their merry laughs--On Monday might, the groom
& groomsmen, seven in number arrived & after they had made their toilet
at the Hotel, they all came up here. But before they came themselves, they sent
a basket with the bridal presents from the groomsmen, all silver. These with
those from their friends were 33 in number & nearly all silver. I will name
them in another place. The girls were all dressed to receive them. Lizzie Law
all anxiety to see her "Cousin Ned." And she was greatly pleased with
him. They went through the performance once or twice for fear of mistakes. The
first brides maid was to be the tallest--that was Jane [unclear: Burgh]
next Miss Harry, then Lizzie Law, then Miss Berry, then Miss Marberry & last
Bettie. They sent the beaux all away before ten o'clock, that they might retire
early. Next morning, the wedding day, we had to stir ourselves.- Directly after
breakfast the girls arranged the presents on the piano & fixed the Bride's
cake in one Corner & the Fruit cake in another, both beautifully done. Then
we all dispersed to our rooms to arrange ourselves for the great occasion, while
Mary Polly & the servants fixed the dinner table which was very nice, but
everything was cold, as all had to be done in a hurry to be ready for the
cars.-- The girls [illeg.] themselves greatly at Kitty who was dressed in
a black silk with three flounces the height of her ambition. The bride
wore a brown merino travelling dress & the brides maids , nearly the same.
All the connexions of the families soon invited with all Lizzie's young friends,
& no married or older persons but Dr. & Mrs. Dorsey, E. Potts & C.
Reynolds, & the parents of the attendants.- Nearly all in town, invited came
& the parlours were filled. Our new Minister Mr. Ross, performed the
ceremony, which all pronounced very simple & beautiful. The whole bridal
party behaved admirably & every body said it was the most pleasant wedding
they ever attended. every one was so bright & joyous. Kitty behaved
very well too. They all dispersed soon after twelve, that the party might have
time to dine. 21 persons dined here besides our own household, & afterwards
several of the coloured friends. Soon after, the hacks, five in number, were at
the door & they all went off in high glee. Several ladies & gentlemen
from here went to the junction with them. The groomsmen were the handsomest set
of young men I ever saw. Lizzie Law served with French Bowie a cousin of Mary
Tyler's & very handsome.
To night, Wednesday, they have a grand reception at Miss
Williams & I would love to take a peep at them. The Bride's dress is a white
striped brocade satin, & the attendants white silk, & they are all
rather pretty. All regretted so much Edward was not here & that the Dr.
& Kate did not come. I was not able to write to her last week as I wished,
but will, soon-- She would have enjoyed it so much. We were truly sorry to hear
you had been so unwell & Uncle so feeble. Many persons here are sick with
colds. You may imagine how lonely we feel with an almost empty house. Kitty is
to day feeling the effects of all the excitement & is not well to night . I
will name over the presents but not all the donors as I have not time. A most
beautiful cake basket from Mrs. Williams, an elegant set of Castors from Jane
Bungh & splendid silver salt cellars lined with gold from Bettie, there were
three pairs of salt cellars lined with gold & spoons to suit our dozen of
silver knives with pearl handles, & half a dozen all silver. A very large
& heavy soup ladle & a dozen of teaspoons. two pairs of butter knives
& one single one. Four fluted sugar spoons line with gold, two pair of
exquisite fruit spoons about the size of table spoons, one pair all silver &
richly figured, the other lined with gold & carved. A large & handsome
silver fish knife. A very heavy silver affair for salad & two silver napkin
rings, a beautiful silver pie trowel to lift the pie when cut. a gold bracelet
from Lizzie Law & a black lace head dress from her Mother E Mchaffey a
handsome worked pocket handkerchief the shawl I knit her & a pair of fluted
salt spoons from John. I ought to have mentioned first, the elegant gold watch
& chain from Mr. Williams & a beautiful chinese fan from one of the
bridesmaids, & a pickle knife & fork, silver-- & a Bible from her
Aunt Mary covered with green velvet & she is to get a double set of forks
from Gen. Coale her father's friend, but this is a secret yet -- she does not
know it. I believe I have named all-- The Gen. intended to give her a watch; but
as he saw she had one & no forks, he changed his plan.
The bride & groom with Lizzie Law, Jane & Bettie expect to
go to P. George's before the weather becomes very cold. I hope they will, I want
Mrs Tyler to know Lizzie so much. All expect such pleasure in showing the lions
of Washington to her, as she has never been there before. You can see that I
have written in a hurry just what came first in my mind as I was writing -- so I
hope you will excuse all defects for I am sure it must have many. My effort has
been to give you a minute account of every thing & I hope this will find you
well enough to enjoy it. I wish I could see you to tell all, it could be more
easily done. We are too sorry Ed. could not come, feeling so sure he would have
enjoyed it mightily. Let us hear from you soon. Some of the guests were
so greedy, that there was scarcely a bit of cake left, though one weighed 16
lbs. & the other heavier. We had not a piece to give to the servants &
Kitty & myself did not get a taste even. The cold dinner consisted of
Turkey, roast beef, ham, tongues & pickled oysters, olio, slaw & cold
tomatoes, bread & butter & all kind of pickles, also celery. They all
seemed to enjoy it mightily.-- But I must stop.-- All unite in much love to you
Uncle & Ed-- Mine to all friends.
Ever yours, affect.
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THE HELP DESK
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to
[email protected]
From: An Madra Rua
The Valley of the Shadow: Two Communities in the American Civil War
http://valley.vcdh.virginia.edu/choosepart.html
From: Civil War POW
Red Skelton's Pledge to the Flag
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/RedsPledge.html
From: Maryd0318
December 1999 - Cogswell Family Association
http://www.cogswell.org/Prom_1299.htm
Mary suggested that we look at the entry on Harvey Cogswell. An
interesting fact that he served 4 days in the Confederate Army and was deemed
more important to serve as a Civilian printer to the cause and was kept on the
roster, however, till the end of the war.
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it
to us.
HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
[email protected]
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From: An Madra Rua
This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html
PART
4....... March 1865
Albert Underwood Civil War Diary
Fri. Apr. 1: Cool and windy this morning. There are no sign
of moving this morning yet. The LIMINARY and the MESTEAS came up this evening,
brought some New Orleans papers but no letters. The LaCrosse was captured and
burned below Alexandria. The WOODFORD sunk at the rapids. The ROB ROY came up
about sundown with four of 1st Indiana Heavy Artillery guns on board, the other
went by land.
Fri. Apr. 2: We brought our horses on board this morning. Some of the
boats started about noon. The ROB ROY left at 5 oclock this morning. We shoved
off at 2 1/2 oclock up the river. Passed a very narrow chain bridge of hard
earth approaching to rock, also passed Calhoun. Quite crooked river and nice
country along the river. Considerable pine along the river. We tied up for the
night a little after dark a few miles below Montgomery. Warm today.
Sat. Apr. 3: Started about sunrise this morning. Progressed very slowly
on account of the river being so narrow and crooked. We stuck several times,
once a little after noon and did not get off until after near night. Several
other boats stuck at the same bend. Passed Montgomery and tied up for the night
a little after dark and received orders to unload at 6 oclock in the morning.
Mon. Apr. 4: Reveille was sounded at 5 oclock this morning. Commenced
unloading about 6 oclock. We got our horses all off and received orders to await
further orders. Scouting parties of infantry and cavalry was sent out this
morning and returned in the evening. We remained here all day waiting orders.
The infantry are out drilling today. Quite nice country round here. The river is
nice here and runs about due south for a mile or more.
Tues. Apr. 5: Beautiful morning, still waiting orders. Daniel and George
Deveter came up this morning. They are camped near Natchitoches 5 miles from
here. We are still lying here between Grand Ecote and Compti about 2 miles above
Quantico. The transport UNIVERSE from New Orleans came up today, brought us no
mail. A scout was sent out again today but found no enemy. Bank's cavalry has
captured several prisoners.
Wed. Apr. 6: I was wakened up this morning at 5 oclock with orders to
feed and harness and move at 6 oclock. We unloaded our guns and moved onto the
bluff when the order was countermanded, but hold ourselves in readiness to move
at any moment. So we had a little drill this morning. Our boat is going back to
Alexandria with the sick. We have orders to move in the morning.
Thurs. Apr. 7: Left camp at 7 oclock, passed Grandoore and traveled south
and west today. Rained considerable today. The roads were very bad and all the
way through the pine timber. Stalled two or three times today and had other bad
luck, also crossed no streams, but some small lakes. The richest that grows is
along here. Went into camp 4 1/2 oclock after marching about 14 miles. Passed no
farms today.
Continued next week.................
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks,
please let us know and we'll add it here.
NEW!!!!! [email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.
[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the
85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book
about them. Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the
subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake
[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in
Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.
[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton
Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the
years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T.
W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if
anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent
most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through
the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two
different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does
Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's
website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in
the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great
event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include
it here in our calendar.
You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your
area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
May 7 - 9 Reenactment, Battle of Spotsylvania 140th anniversary
event in Spotsylvania County near Fredericksburg. Demonstrations and living
history all weekend. Camps open 1 pm Friday, 10 am Saturday and before dawn
Sunday. Battles at 6:30 pm Saturday, before dawn and 11 am Sunday. Candlelight
tour Saturday night. Fee charged. http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/news.html#SpotsylvaniaSchedule
Details and updates: www.spotsylvania140th.com
May 8 - 9 Gettysburg, PA Living history encampment and demonstrations by
a US Artillery unit at the Pennsylvania Memorial in the Gettysburg National
Military Park. www.nps.gov/gett
or 717-334-1124 extension 422.
May 14-16, Virginia - Reenactment, 140th anniversary of the Battle of New
Market on the historic battlefield. Information: www.vmi.edu/museum/nm or
540-740-3101. For schedule, http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/news.html#newmkt2004
May 22 - 23 Virginia - Reenactment, living history and 140th
anniversary commemoration of the Battle of Wilson's Wharf (Fort Pocahontas) at
the James River near Sherwood Forest Plantation off Route 5 between Richmond and
Williamsburg. Details: www.fortpocahontas.org
May 22 - 23 West Virginia - Living history and reenactment, "The
Battle of Lewisburg" on the Greenbrier campus of the New River Community
& Technical College in Lewisburg. Camps open 10 am-8 pm Saturday with
speakers, exhibits, and battle reenactment. Dance (all welcome) 8 pm Saturday.
Speakers, living history begin noon Sunday with a funeral cortege for an officer
killed in battle beginning at 3 pm followed by a ceremony at the Confederate
cemetery. All free. www.battleoflewisburg.org.
May
31, Gettysburg, PA - Memorial Day Parade and Ceremonies at the
Soldiers' National Cemetery at Gettysburg. 2 pm. 717-334-1124, extension 422 or
431 or www.nps.gov/gett
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Sat. June 5 & Sun., June 6 Pennypacker Mills, Schwenksville, PA
Civil War Reunion Weekend A must-see experience for the
entire family as you emerge yourselves into the Civil War era to see an
authentic military encampment, period music and fashion, guest speakers, living
history demonstrations, sutlers, artillery, and battle scenes. Ongoing
activities both days. On-site parking and refreshments available. No
pets, please. Saturday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. No charge.
JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania
Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of
authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of
1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other
merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The
Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted
free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM
September
3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin,
NJ Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
May 6 & 7, 2004 - OPEN CHAT - This is the time to bring your Civil
War related questions, whether it's about the war or the people at home, maybe
an ancestor we might help you find... bring it to us and allow us to help
you.
May 13 & 14, 2004 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights.
If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or
HOST FMLY Bill.
May 20 & 21, 2004 - OPEN CHAT
May 27 & 28 - to be announced
We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
Jayne
& Bill :)
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
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"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 16 May 2004
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We
shared a few letters, read a poem and one of the "faithful" who is a
reeanactor, told us of their perils with the weather, at Spotsylvania, the
weekend of the 7th, 8th & 9th of this month. Mercy, after hearing the
story, I'm very thankful none of my friends were hurt. While dishes were
broken and tents torn, there were only a few bodily injuries and fortunately
none that I heard of were serious.
Join us this week for a Civil War Beginner's quiz. :D Come see
how many question you can answer correctly. And if there are some you
don't know, then you'll also be learning something!!
Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have
plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United
States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that
is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period"
in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM
ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL
only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both
nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories.
We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of
the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're
up to.
You can visit the other Genealogy chats (AOL only) by going to
KEYWORD: Parenting Chats > scroll down to Genealogy and click.
Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy
Community > Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times
(scroll down to War Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].
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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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The following poem was written by a special friend of the Civil War
History Chats. Frank, passed away 3 years ago last month. I guess I was
feeling a little nostalgic today so I chose one of Frank's poems to share with
you
Cannon Roars
By Frank Benway
The sun rose bright in Charlestown
But Secession was in the air
The calm was shattered by the roar
As the harbor cannons opened fire
Three short days sumter fell
The South fell into Celebration
The North stood in open Shock
The growing cry was War
For four long years
Those cannons roared
Belching out their Wall of Death
From Manasses to Petersburg
Gettysburg to Texas and beyond
They Killed and maimed with their roar
Those Blood torn bodies laid
Round shot was bad enough
But canister was the Bane
It cut through men like a Scythe
Still men did charge into that Fire
Some laid Bleeding on a Field
For Honor and for Country
On April ninth of sixty five
The quiet did return
In the Peace a Nation Bleeding
Bound its wounds, to Unite a Nation
Once torn apart by War
To quell the cries of revenge
To make us one, ONCE MORE
Ben
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Major Thomas Chamberlin, 150th Penna. Volunteers "Bucktails"
8 March 1916
Death Claims Another Officer of the Bucktails
Death having claimed Major Thomas Chamberlin last week, there now remains
but one surviving line officer of the famous 150th Pennsylvania Volunteers,
one of the Pennsylvania Bucktails commands, two companies of which were
recruited in Germantown. The remaining officer is General Henry S.
Huidekoper, who was lieutenant colonel of the regiment.
Until recently Major Chamberlin lived at 429 West Stafford street,
Germantown. But lately he made his home in a Philadelphia apartment house,
where his death occurred.
The story of the dreadful slaughter to which the 150th was subjected at
Gettysburg has often been told: In that battle Colonel Langhorne Wister,
Lieutenant Colonel Huidekoper, Adjutant Ashhurst and Major Chamberlin were
all severely wounded in the first day's fight, and it devolved upon the
late
Captain George W. Jones, of Germantown to command what was left of the
regiment. Of the 700 men in the ranks of the regiment when it entered the
battle, only ninety-six reported fit for duty at night, all the others
having been killed, wounded or captured.
An interesting fact connected with Major Chamberlin's service at Gettysburg
is that when John Burns, the Gettysburg cobbler and constable, appeared on
the field for the purpose of joining in the fighting, the first officer
whom he approached was Major Chamberlin. Burns asked for permission to join
the 150th during the battle. Major Chamberlin referred him to Colonel
Wister who sent Burns into the nearby woods, so that he might be better
protected than if he remained with the regiment. In the woods Burns
attached himself to a Wisconsin command firing his musket until he was
wounded in the leg.
Major Chamberlin was 78 years old, and for the past five years had been
clerk of records of the Gettysburg Battlefield Memorial Commission. He was
a member of Meade Post #1, Grand Army of the Republic and a companion of
the Loyal Legion. He entered the military service June 21, 1861, as Captain
of Company D, Fifth Reserves, was severely wounded in battle a year later
and in September, 1862, was commissioned as major in the One Hundred and
Fiftieth Pennsylvania Volunteers. He participated in the battles of
Antietam, Port Conway, Pollak's Mill, Chancellorsville and Gettysburg.
After serving on the Rappahannock during the winter of 1863-4 his health
became impaired and he resigned March 15, 1864, with the rank of lieutenant
colonel.
Major Chamberlin delivered the address at the dedication of the monument of
the 150th Regiment on the 3 Gettysburg field.
His death occurred six days. after that of his wife. In both instances
pneumonia was the fatal ailment. Burial took place in Lewisburg, Pa.
He was from Columbia County. Chamberlain wrote the excellent regimental
history of the 150th Volunteers.
.......... and there you have it.
The above was sent to me by An Madra Rua. She had seen it in the
CIVILWARPHILA elist she belongs to. Should you like to subscribe, you may
do so at http://listserv.temple.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=civilwarphila&A=1
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to us. Albert Underwood Civil War Diary
Fri. Apr. 8: Rained considerable last night. Left camp at 4
1/2 oclock. We march in the rear today. Had considerable trouble and bad luck
getting along today till toward evening we had tolerable good roads. Pine woods
all the way and but few houses on this road. Went into camp about 9 oclock in
1/2 mile of Pleasant Hill. Heard cannonading this evening. Traveled 17 miles
today, no streams or water near by. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NEW!!!!! [email protected] has offered to do free
Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin. He is the author of
"Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin" [email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with
ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina,
but has other sources also.
[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the
85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a
book about them. Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in
the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake * * * * * * * * * * * * * If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great
event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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From: Cyndis list of new sites
URL: http://www.authorlisasaunders.com/mycustompage0013.htm
TITLE: New York 9th Heavy Artillery
DESCRIPTION: New York 9th Heavy Artillery of Wayne and
Cayuga Counties
during the American Civil War. Timeline,Excerpts of Letters, Obituaries,
List of soldiers such as SEWARD, MCDOWELL, WAGER, MURPHY, AND GARRITY.
From:
Maryd0318
http://www.charmingtowns.com/dir/society/historic_sites/sheldon_church.html
Old Sheldon Church Remains this includes some letters written during the
Civil War...and further down the page info on some books available from
Amazon, including Civil War Flags of South Carolina
FROM OUR READERS
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HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
[email protected]
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From: DaePowell
Military Burials
The Tuesday, April 13, issue of the St Petersburg Times tells of a new
government website. Information is as follows: VA has made it easier and
faster for the public to get answers about family history, old war buddies, or
famous war heroes. The agency has put 3.2 million records for veterans
cemeteries and burials in Arlington National Cemetery on the Web since 1999.
Joe Nosari, VA's deputy chief information officer for Memorial Affairs, said the
records used to be on paper and microfilm. Private companies have put some
of the information on line an charged for it, but the VA information is free.
The VA's grave site navigater includes names, dates of birth and death, military service
dates, service branch and rank if known, cemetery information and grave
location in the cemetery. The VA will withold some
information, such as next of kin for privacy purposes. The site is updated
daily. Annually, about 80,000 veterans are buried at national cemeteries.
The address for the Veterans Affairs Narional Cemetery Administration Web Site
is:
Click on nationwide gravesite locator. A search form allows you to enter a
first and last name to find a record of a veteran buried in a Veterans Afairs
National Cemetery.
If more information is needed click on Advanced Search Options.
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From: An Madra Rua
This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html
PART
5....... March 1865
Sat. Apr. 9: Reveille sounded at 2 oclock and we were ready to move by 5
oclock. Fighting a few miles ahead. We were ordered forward about 10 and stood
in position near Pleasant Hill till 2 oclock when we were ordered forward again,
and formed in line of battle just in the edge of Pleasant Hill. About 5 oclock
the firing grew fearful and our force fell back to where our Battery stood. Then
our men drove them back and the fighting ceased about 8 oclock.
Sun. Apr. 10: Harnessed at midnight and left camp at 3 oclock. We brought
off 2 pieces with us. Our force is marching toward the river today. The Rebs are
said to be retreating this morning. Had pretty good roads and got along well
today, marched miles and went into camp on the Rio Honde. We took our horses and
went about 2 miles after corn, found but little. Quite tired and sleepy, having
slept but little for 2 nights.
Mon. Apr. 11: Left camp at 6 1/2 oclock, marched pretty fast. Roads
tolerable good but very dusty in places. Nice weather. Made a long halt in 3
miles of the river and reached the river about 5 oclock but not get into camp
until 8 oclock with our horses very much worsted. We could not get forage and
but little water for our horses. The boats are not here except a few gunboats.
River falling.
Tues. Apr. 12: Beautiful morning. We are camped at the edge of a woods
about a quarter of a mile from river. I went down to the river this morning and
took a good wash. Daniel came up this evening. They are camped just below
Grandcore. Cannonading heard all day up the river. Our gunboats and transports
are up the river and the Rebs have probably got in their rear. A gunboat arrived
from Nashville this evening received a mail.
Wed. Apr. 13: Quite warm today. Received marching orders about noon and
to harness and be in readiness at once to move out. Our transports were to be
down at noon. We stood in readiness until about 8 oclock and unhitched and tied
our horses to the picket rope with the harness on till morning. No boats came
down yet. The cannonading has not been heard since noon. Some of the troops have
crossed the river.
Thurs. Apr. 14: The SHREVEPORT came down this morning, also the ROB ROY
and other boats. Goldsmith and I went down to Grandore (?) today. Saw the 21st
boys, went into the hospital and saw Zena. He was wounded above here on the ROB
ROY. They were engaged 2 days in the fight. Several boats riddled considerable
by musketry, none seriously damaged. Nearly all the boats have now returned,
also the infantry force that went up.
Continued next week.................
A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks,
please let us know and we'll add it here
[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War
Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.
[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton
Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the
years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T.
W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if
anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent
most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through
the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two
different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does
Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's
website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in
the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your
area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
May 14-16, Virginia - Reenactment, 140th anniversary of the Battle of New
Market on the historic battlefield. Information: www.vmi.edu/museum/nm or
540-740-3101. For schedule, http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/news.html#newmkt2004
May 22 - 23 Virginia - Reenactment, living history and 140th
anniversary commemoration of the Battle of Wilson's Wharf (Fort Pocahontas) at
the James River near Sherwood Forest Plantation off Route 5 between Richmond and
Williamsburg. Details: www.fortpocahontas.org
May 22 - 23 West Virginia - Living history and reenactment, "The
Battle of Lewisburg" on the Greenbrier campus of the New River Community
& Technical College in Lewisburg. Camps open 10 am-8 pm Saturday with
speakers, exhibits, and battle reenactment. Dance (all welcome) 8 pm Saturday.
Speakers, living history begin noon Sunday with a funeral cortege for an officer
killed in battle beginning at 3 pm followed by a ceremony at the Confederate
cemetery. All free. www.battleoflewisburg.org.
May
31, Gettysburg, PA - Memorial Day Parade and Ceremonies at the
Soldiers' National Cemetery at Gettysburg. 2 pm. 717-334-1124, extension 422 or
431 or www.nps.gov/gett
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JUNE is a very active month for Living Histories and Reenactments so be sure
to check the Website
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0604.html
June 3-6 Annual Blue and Gray Reunion, Civil War
Weekend in Philippi, WV. Event includes much living history, medical
scenarios, period music, encampments, demonstrations, parades, skirmishes and a
reenactment at 2 pm Sunday. Saturday activities include artillery demonstration
at 11 am; skirmish 1 pm at the bridge; Civil War Ball 8 pm. Most activities are
free. 304-457-4265 or 304-457-5183.
June 5-6 Blue and Gray Days at Point Lookout State
Park, MD. Living history drills and programs and demonstrations and exhibits
about life at the prisoner-of-war camp. 11 am-4 pm Saturday and 11 am-3 pm
Sunday. Free with paid park fees. 301-872-5688.
Sat. June 5 & Sun., June 6 Pennypacker Mills, Schwenksville, PA
Civil War Reunion Weekend A must-see experience for the
entire family as you emerge yourselves into the Civil War era to see an
authentic military encampment, period music and fashion, guest speakers, living
history demonstrations, sutlers, artillery, and battle scenes. Ongoing
activities both days. On-site parking and refreshments available. No
pets, please. Saturday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. No charge.
June 12-13 Reenactment and living history weekend
commemorating the 140th anniversary of the Battle of Trevilian Station
in Louisa County, VA (between Charlottesville and Richmond). Camps open 9
am-5 pm Saturday, 10 am-4 pm Sunday. Demonstrations, plantation house tours and
other programs scheduled. Adult tickets: $10 daily, $15 two-day. Site is located
on Route 15, three miles south of Boswell Tavern (Routes 15 and 22).
540-832-2708 or email [email protected]
June 26-27 Living history encampment and
demonstrations by the 20th Maine and the US Sharpshooters at the Pennsylvania
Memorial, Maryland troops in Pitzer Woods and Virginia soldiers at
Spangler Spring in the Gettysburg National Military Park, PA.
www.nps.gov/gett or 717-334-1124 extension 422.
JULY
17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania
Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of
authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of
1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other
merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The
Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted
free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM
September
3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake
Manahawkin, NJ Last Battle of the American War of
Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
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May 20 & 21, 2004 - OPEN CHAT
May 27 & 28 - Civil War Beginners Quiz - Join us, see how much
you already know and if you don't know, you can learn. ;D
June 1 & 2 - OPEN CHAT
June 8 & 9 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights.
If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or
HOST FMLY Bill.
June 15 & 16 - OPEN CHAT
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Before I go any further, I want to wish my former partner Jim a VERY, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY this week. (((((((())))))))) Jimmy I miss you, partner!!!
Join us this week for a Civil War Beginner's quiz. :D Come see how many question you can answer correctly. And if there are some you don't know, then you'll also be learning something!!
Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.
You can visit the other Genealogy chats (AOL only) by going to KEYWORD: Parenting Chats > scroll down to Genealogy and click. Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy Community > Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times (scroll down to War Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].
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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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FRom [email protected]
Camp 3rd N.C. Cavalry
Near Petersburg Va
13th Aug 64
My own dear Sue:
(Illegible……….the first part of the letter appears Henry Machen Patrick is telling his wife Sue that he is taking the time to write to her amid all of his duties and thanks her for previous letters.) ……if not for your precious letters to cheer me camp life would be almost unbearable. While on duty particularly when exposed to danger, my mind is sufficiently engaged, but when in camp its duties are so monotonous (illegible words) very badly. It is at those times my darlings letters are most appreciated. We are having a very easy time now, being on picket only about two days out of eight. While in camp though, we drill one hour in the forenoon of every day & graze our horses in the afternoon. While on picket we stand so near the Yankee pickets that we can converse with each other. Some places, the pickets are not more than fifty yards apart. They are very friendly, often offering to exchange papers, swap Sugar & coffee for tobacco. We have very positive orders though, to have no communication with them, except by orders of our Brigade commander. On our portion of the line the pickets do not fire on each other except when there is a general advance. It is thought by some that Grant is gradually withdrawing from the front of Petersburg, and transporting his troops up the Potomac. There is a rumor in Camp to-day, that Gens Lee & Grant have both left P. & that Beauregard & Butler were in command of the respective armies at this place. If that is so, we may soon expect to hear of a heavy battle somewhere near the Potomac. I should not be surprised that our Brigade moves in that direction, if the rumor mentioned is correct. Speaking of my coming home, I see no prospect, except I get a furlough. That I cannot expect before the latter part of the fall or winter. I hardly think that we will be sent to No Car to recruit next winter as the first & second Regts have neither been, they will probably go if any does. Upon the whole do you not think that it would be better for me not to go home again while the war lasts, since my visit last summer caused you to loose so much & six hundred dollars is paying too dear for the whistle is it not? I should have been a better boy. Don’t you think so? Sunday morning : 14th. Yesterday evening I was interupted to go on dress parade, therefore could not finish my letter. I now will commence again but will be disturbed again before I can complete this, to go on “inspection”. I do not think you should be as indifferent as you estimated in one of your letters, should I not be spared too return to my loved ones. Had it been the present generation alone that we would benefit it would have been better to have submitted to the incroachments of that blind fanaticism of the north that has drafted our sunny south with mourning & caused thousands of hearthstones to be desolate. We should remember it is not for ourselves alone we labor. Our revolutionary fathers planted the seed of liberty - nurtured the tender plants & watered it with their blood, & for what? That we, their offspring might eat of the fruits thereof. Are we less patriotic than they? Should it be said, that the sons of such sires have become so selfish that they look only to the present enforcement of themselves & sit comfy and witness the manufacture of the chains that are being prepared for their children? I know you will say no. I am aware that there are those who pretend to believe that this war might have been averted - that it was in the power of certain southern men to have prevented hostilities between the two sections & that those men are responsible for the evils we are now experiencing. I am one of those who do not think it could have been consistant with Southern honor. And now my darling, should you be so unfortunate as to have to make that sacrifice you so much fear, do it with that Christian & patriotic resignation that so characterized the Spartan women. But my dear Sue I do feel that with the prayers of my dear wife & those of my little ones living constantly presented for my safety and for my return, I shall be spared to be happy again with you and them as in days past. Our prospects are brightening. It is thought the summer campaign is nearly ended in Va, & what has “the greatest army on the planet” accomplished? Nothing but defeat in which not less than 100,000 of their best troops have been lost. Holdon stock has gone so far below par that it is impossible to express its present status in figures. I feel really proud of the “Old North State” & rejoice to know that, that portion of her degenerated sons who have been blinded by party fanaticism & those whose political ambition has led them astray is so small. I know that there are those who would like to have the pleasure (to them) to say that the Holdon men in the army did not have the privileg of voting as they wished. From personal observation I can speak only respecting my own Company. In that I do know there never was a fairer election held that I ever witnessed. There were twenty-eight votes polled. Vance rced 27 & Holdon rced one. No man objected to the Holdonite voting – not even a word was said to him. His name is Patterson & though a citizen of No. Ca. by birth, has lived in Boston 8 or 10 years of his life. Holdon rced only four votes in the 3rd. I have not heard of any Regt in which any man who wished to vote for H was debarred from so doing. Vance may be 2nd choice of some, but he is my 1st choice, & could his virtues be known at home, which would be the case, were it not for the disaffected constantly preaching peace convention & instead of taking their muskets & sending leaden commissioners & death dealing delegates to the enemy’s ranks, the much desired boon would not be far distant. Among many other good thing our excellent Governer has done he has run through the blockade and sold to destitute families of soldiers 40,000 pair of cards at $5 pr pair when they could not have procured them in any other way for less than from $40 to $100 pr pair. But enough of this one sided question. You spoke my darling about sending me some money. I do not need any now. I am oblige to you for the kind offer. I do not use much as we get plenty to eat. I sometimes wish for fruit melons etc but they are selling so extravagantly that I am striving to practice
selforenial. Water-melens are selling for from $5 to $20 each, apples $2 two dollars per quart. We have to pay a dollar a garment for washing and profiting by past experience I now wash my own clothes. We are not allowed to carry but one jacket, 1 pr pants, which we wear, and a change only of under garments. The latter are frequently reduced to only on suit. We are camped near a creek and at no hour of the day is this stream clear of soldiers washing. There is a great many socks in the creek and we take our clothes on a large rock and with a stick give them what Paddy gave the drum – “h__ l of a bating.” I must now close without finishing this sheet. I have fraped (sp) every pleasant morning writing to my darling. As I concluded the above paragraph the bugle sounded for us to “saddle up.” We are now ready to march and in the interim I will conclude. I do not know where we are going. Rumor says to the North side of the James. I will write you when we stop. I do not think it safe to transmit money per mail – will try and send you the Examiner. I will send this by Capt Buck, who leaves this afternoon on furlough. My love to all. Keep my little ones for me.
T.R.C. is well. Yours..Henry
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This week I had an email from a lady who would like to know about the Navy on the Great Lakes during the Civil War. She is researching her ancestor, William "Windy Bill" Gebhart/Gabheart/Gebbart/Gebheart who was allegedy a sailor in the Civil War on the Great Lakes.
He was born in 1834 in Kentucky. He married Nancy Caroline Estes in Dec 1867 (she thinks in Newton Co., MO) In the 1880 census he was listed in Johnson, Co., Nebraska with the Gabheart spelling. Then in 1910 with son Robert Gebhart in Peoria IL A son William Thomas Gebhart was reportedly also with the Navy on the Great Lakes in 1889-1890.
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From: Cyndis list of new sites
URL: http://www.archivecdbooks.us/store/usa/CW.html
TITLE: Civil War
DESCRIPTION: Reproductions of old and rare books relating to the Civil
War available on CD.
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From: Tess Toobe
DAR Library Catalog
http://dar.library.net/
Library of Congress Catalog
http://catalog.loc.gov/
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From: Maryd0318
Two Diaries
http://www.rootsweb.com/~scbkhs/jervey.html
additional letters, etc are also included.------describing the terror, destruction of the Plantations, movement of troops, news from Altanta, news of Lincoln's assassination, etc.
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From: bitsobluengray
these are from a maillist I belong to:
Black soldiers honored with Civil War Trails marker, By JOHN HOPKINS,
The Virginian-Pilot
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=70667&ran=32479
Marker honors Confederate general, By PHYLLIS SPEIDELL,
The Virginian-Pilot
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=70609&ran=25083
Should Memorial Day and America's War Dead be commercialized?
http://home.pacbell.net/veterans/xmemday.htm
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From: MM3C11259
The following was written by Capt Pettit who when captured was in the 120th NY infantry, Co F commander. Pettit was captured in the Wilderness in June, 1864. He was 39 when he enlisted.
DESCRIPTION OF ENVELOPE
Addressed to: James B. Smillie
No. 20, West 41st Street
New York
From: Capt Gilbert Pettit
Prisoner of War
near Columbia, S.C.
Across top center of envelope: By Flag of Truce
Postage stamps- left to right, top right
1. .03 U.S. Stamp
2. .10 Confederate Stamp
Note: Confederate stamps were not valid for delivery of mail in the U.S. A U.S.
stamp had to be affixed to this letter once it passed the lines for it to be
delivered to the NY addressee
Postmarks (3)
1. Target style- no lettering cancelling U.S. stamp
2. Partially illegible postmark cancelling both the U.S. and Confederate stamps
specifying CHARL( rest illegible)- Charleston?
Note: the above postmarks had to be applied after the letter was delivered to Union
hands.
3. Clear postmark to the left of stamps- PORT ROYAL S.C. Nov 21 ' 64
Notation at the bottom of the envelope- Rec'd New York Nov 26th 1864
LETTER
Written on 4x8" lined paper similar to that used by children
Camp Military Prison near
Dear Cousin, Columbia, S.C. Oct 27, 1864
I wrote you on the 12th inst to send me a box of provision. For fear you did not get my letter I write again. If you have not sent it you will confer a great favor if you will do so.
I would like a blanker or two of some kind, some socks, a pair of shoes ------- 8 and a little underclothing and a cheap overcoat. As for the provision, send such as you think best. A ham, sugar and coffee would go good. Perhaps you could send me some can fruit and meat but use your own judgement. I would also like a cheap carpet bag to carry things we have. If we are exchanged soon, I will not need these things. Perhaps (name illegible) and some of the rest will help you get it up. Frank is still in the hospital at Charleston. The last I heard from him (10 days ago) he was improving. My health is very good. We are prisoners at a camp near --------?-----------
Prison, near Columbia, S.C. address per Flag of Truce----------?-------- Hilton Head, care of Gen'l Shafter. Send paper and envelopes.
Give my love to all. Hoping Imay have the pleasure of meeting you soon, I remain affectionately
Gilbert
NOTE from MM3C
Jayne- did some research to find out Pettit's Regiment, Co and when he was captured. Perhaps you can add a postscript to this letter regarding the camp name which was unreadable, possibly the General referred to ( Was fairly unreadable- my best attempt of Shauter, or Thauter was Shafter. Also whether he survived the war. Wonder who the Frank was he mentioned?
Regards Ted
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From: An Madra Rua
This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html
PART 5....... March 1865
Albert Underwood Civil War Diary
Fri. Apr. 15: Rained a little last night. Cleaned up our camp and put it in better order. Boats are still coming down yet but not much prospect of moving soon. The river is getting quite low now. Everything has been quiet today, no cannonading has been heard since last evening. Beautiful weather. Banks' has gone to New Orleans after reinforcements. Some of the 3rd Battery boys were captured across the river today.
Sat. Apr. 16: Beautiful morning. Received orders to load all camp and garrison equipment on the boats and in a few minutes we received orders to hold on till further orders. Daniel came up today again. Some talk this evening of our going through by land to Alexandria and then down the river. There is some talk that Gen. Bank's will go up to Shreveport, yet the river is still falling slowly.
Sun. Apr. 17: Everything is quiet this morning, more so than usual. I went out and heard the old priest of the 58th Illinois infantry Regt. officiate in the capacity of chaplain. We are expecting orders to march pretty soon but we do not know whether we will go up the river to Shreveport or down the river, or even whether the river is still falling yet. Quite warm today.
Mon. Apr. 18: Beautiful morning. Another quiet lonesome day. I worked all the forenoon putting in a new pole in the caisson and fixed up other things. We turned over the two captured guns this morning. The report is today that some of Gen. Steele's Cavalry have come in and it is also reported that the Rebs are coming to whip Banks again before he gets reinforcements or moves again.
Thurs. Apr. 19: We were awakened this morning at 4 oclock with orders to harness and hitch up immediately. Remained in readiness till about 10 oclock and got orders to unharness. I feel quite unwell today, a warm lonesome day. Received orders about 3 oclock to pack up and be ready to move at once. As soon as we get ready, orders came to unharness again. Louder caught some very nice fish in Red River today.
Wed. Apr. 20: Everything is quiet this morning. Received orders to get ready to move at once. Left in half an hour at 1 oclock. Made a long halt at Grand Ecore landing. Tolerable good roads, very dusty. Reached Natchitoches about sundown. Our pickets were skirmishing this evening. Formed a line of battle and had gone to bed when we were ordered to hitch up and we moved up in a new position and formed another line of battle for the night.
Thurs. Apr. 21: Harnessed this morning about 4 1/2 oclock. We remained in position until 10 oclock, then we moved about 200 yards further to the left and formed again and remained in line till about 10 oclock in the night when we started out east across Cain River. Marched about 1 mile and made a long halt and remained till 3 oclock and marched till about daylight and halted again. Heard skirmishing all day 3 miles out.
Fri. Apr. 22: Started forward again about sunrise after the 13th and 19th Corps passed from the Grand Ecore road. Marched till about noon and then halted till about 5 oclock while some skirmishing was going on in the rear. Then we marched till about midnight and then halted till about 1 1/2 oclock and then moved up to Cloterville. Camped about 2 hours. It was 4 oclock before we laid down to sleep having marched two nights and one day right along without resting only by halts.
Sat. Apr. 23: Left Cloterville 6 oclock and went out about 2 miles and formed a line of battle. Cannonading being heard a few miles further on and finally in our rear. Two of our Brigades were sent back and the 3rd Battery and drove them back again. Two oclock and the train started forward and as soon as past we moved forward again. Rained a little early this morning. Went into camp about 7 oclock. Beautiful weather. Unharnessed tonight, were harness 60 hours.
Continued next week.................
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here
NEW!!!!! [email protected] has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin. He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"
[email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.
[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book about them. Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake
[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.
[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email
[email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected] Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at
http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.
You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
May 31, Gettysburg, PA - Memorial Day Parade and Ceremonies at the Soldiers' National Cemetery at Gettysburg. 2 pm. 717-334-1124, extension 422 or 431 or www.nps.gov/gett .
JUNE is a very active month for Living Histories and Reenactments so be sure to check the Website
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0604.html
June 3-6 Annual Blue and Gray Reunion, Civil War Weekend in Philippi, WV. Event includes much living history, medical scenarios, period music, encampments, demonstrations, parades, skirmishes and a reenactment at 2 pm Sunday. Saturday activities include artillery demonstration at 11 am; skirmish 1 pm at the bridge; Civil War Ball 8 pm. Most activities are free. 304-457-4265 or 304-457-5183.
June 5-6 Blue and Gray Days at Point Lookout State Park, MD. Living history drills and programs and demonstrations and exhibits about life at the prisoner-of-war camp. 11 am-4 pm Saturday and 11 am-3 pm Sunday. Free with paid park fees. 301-872-5688.
Sat. June 5 & Sun., June 6 Pennypacker Mills, Schwenksville, PA Civil War Reunion Weekend A must-see experience for the entire family as you emerge yourselves into the Civil War era to see an authentic military encampment, period music and fashion, guest speakers, living history demonstrations, sutlers, artillery, and battle scenes. Ongoing activities both days. On-site parking and refreshments available. No pets, please. Saturday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. No charge.
June 12-13 Reenactment and living history weekend commemorating the 140th anniversary of the Battle of Trevilian Station in Louisa County, VA (between Charlottesville and Richmond). Camps open 9 am-5 pm Saturday, 10 am-4 pm Sunday. Demonstrations, plantation house tours and other programs scheduled. Adult tickets: $10 daily, $15 two-day. Site is located on Route 15, three miles south of Boswell Tavern (Routes 15 and 22). 540-832-2708 or email [email protected]
June 26-27 Living history encampment and demonstrations by the 20th Maine and the US Sharpshooters at the Pennsylvania Memorial, Maryland troops in Pitzer Woods and Virginia soldiers at Spangler Spring in the Gettysburg National Military Park, PA. www.nps.gov/gett or 717-334-1124 extension 422.
JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM
September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
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May 27 & 28 - Civil War Beginners Quiz - Join us, see how much you already know and if you don't know, you can learn. ;D
June 1 & 2 - OPEN CHAT
June 8 & 9 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights. If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill.
June 15 & 16 - OPEN CHAT
June 22 & 23 - To be announced
June 29 & 30 - To be announced
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Jayne & Bill
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
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Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 31 May 2004
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NOTE from Jayne: We're getting more subscribers all the time, and I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently. I hope you enjoy our little newsletter.
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I'm sitting here assembling the newsletter on Memorial Day. While the following isn't related directly to the Civil War, I'm going to post this anyway. I had an experience on Saturday, May 29 that I will never forget.
What a day!!! It was WONDERFUL, it was emotional, it was exhausting, the weather couldn't have been any better and it was also disappointing. Disappointing in that we did not get to see the memorial up close and personal. It was closed to the public until 7 PM. To see all those WWII Vets was really something else. Many of them, both men and women, were in their uniforms. I got the greatest picture..... There was a WWII Navy veteran dressed in his blues, you know, the ones with all the buttons :) and a young career navy man dress in the modern day dress whites. That was a sight to see.
The day started for us about 3:15 AM (needless to say we didnt get much sleep) We boarded the train at 5:15 in Wilmington DE and headed for Washington DC, where we arrived about 7 AM. Then we had to get on the metro (another train) and get to one of their stations where there would be shuttle buses to the different seating sections. HA!!!!! what a laugh!! Once we were dropped off the bus we had a VERY long way to walk. I don't think I've every seen so many folding chairs in all my life!!!!!! They had a special area for wheel chairs (there was a white fibre matting covering the grass which made it easier for the wheel chairs to roll.) We arrived soon enough to be able to get a place to sit right in front of one of the HUGE screens they had for viewing the ceremony and activities leading up to it. At 10 AM there was a service from the National Cathedral which was quite moving. At noon they had a Tribute to the Veterans. Music, dancing and clothing all from the 30's and 40's. What fun!!!! We took the opportunity, during the tribute to walk along the pools between the Wash. Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Ben stayed put. We could only get "so far" toward the Wash. Monument cause, as I said, the WWII Memorial was closed to the public all day, so we did get to see it from a distance.
They gave us a nice packet as we went in with a program. a beautiful commemorative pin, a flag, a picture of the monument and a magazine I haven't looked at yet. They also gave everyone a bottle of water and a "lanyard" which you could put you "ticket" on and hang around your neck. At the ceremony, Bob Dole, former President George H. W. Bush, Tom Hanks and current President Bush, as well as others. spoke. I had thought I was going to get thru the day without shedding too many tears. Well.... after all the speeches were over, 4 military jets flew, in formation, straight over the length of the mail... So much for a few tears. I totally lost it!!!
The worst part of the day was trying to get away from the mall and back to the Metro station. We waited well over an hour and a half in line waiting to get on a bus..... and we weren't all that far from the beginning of the line. It just seems like all the buses were going somewhere besides the Metro center. Finally one of the volunteers convinced one of the drivers to call in and get persmission to take a load to the metro center... FINALLY!!!! We got back to Union Station with a little over an hour before our train was to leave, so we got something to eat, besides the crackers, fig newtons and granola bars we had been munching on all day. We arrived back in Wilmington about 9 PM. By the time we got home it was about 10 and we were exhausted!!!!
I guess next trip down, we'll actually get to see the Memorial. :::::sigh::::::
Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.
JOIN HOST FMLY Rose.... Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.
You can visit the other Genealogy chats (AOL only) by going to KEYWORD: Genealogy Forum > then up in the top right corner pick "hosted chats". The link to message boards is also located at the same place.
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].
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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
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This letter was written by my husband's ggrandfather Levi McCormick to his wife Tamar
Sept 5th 1863 Fairfax Station Virginia Dear wife this is Saturday eve I recieved a letter from you this eve and find you all wel and it finds us the same but some of our men is sick Mitchener is not wel and looks bad but he is stil on duty yet William Mackeneel was buried to day he was buried at Alexandria he once lived with Jos Eastburn he leaves a wife & family he looked as stout an eney man in the Reg but he died verry sudent some of our boys has got furlows to go home Lee Pusey got one last munday & Charles Yong got one yesterday Yong has bin sick in the Hospitel for some time and I will try my luck prety soon if nothing hapens we will be paid this nex weak and then I will be ready to come as soon as I get my pepers for when I come I want to travel whear I please I hav heard that we are not to get eney substutes for our Regmt and I will be glad if we get none of them for they are bad felows Samuel got a letter from Westley today and they are all well but Joseph Pogue has got in a scrape it may take some of his change and I dont caire if it does when he finds how they are treated he will more uneasy I would not be a substitute for a thousand dollars of eney mans money but the rich thinks they can get a poar man to doe eney thing for their money but it aint me I have sean men down hear that was verry rich that cant hardley live now and som of our Delawarians may see that time yet when their money may not be so plenty with them but let it be so this war will be setled some of thes daysand then we will tend to them they cant blaggord us then or down goes their meet house the coperheads has put out a book about our last election but if they cut a shine a gain we will come and see them again and they will have to sing dum and dig out they are traitors and they are nothing else I dont want to write about this for I have travled in the dark and in mud to my knees when they hav bin laing in their beds and enjoying the conferts of home and then they will curs us for what we are doeing but their dog is dead and they leaders know it if we live to get back they will find a change for we will never patronize a reb they will never get a dollar of my money if I know it if I cant get things from our one mem I will doe with out it we hav nothing new hear but they brought six hundred rebels past hear that come in to our lines frome Lees armey and they say that their is plenty more will come the first chance for they say they wont fight eney more but they are going home to their family and this is the way it is going on Some of the big bugs comes in to our camps and gets what ever they can get to live on boys come in and asks us for bread well the hour is growing late and my letter may not interest you as mutch as it might but this is what is going on hear we hav got our camp laid out and we ar going to put up our tents this nex weak J Chambers got a box to day and got some knew shirts and he is a pleased boy wel you need not look for me until you see me but if I dont come you can come and see me and I keep my money to see if I get home if not I will send for you but I hav found that I can come home cheaper than you can come hear it will cost you about 12 or fifteen dollors to come to Alexander your boarding and all and it will cost me about 5 Dollors to go and come back but you must not think that I dont want to see you for that is all that I have in this world that is worth living for my family and my country I stop by sending my love to you all from afectinate and true Husband Serg Levi McCormick I dont need eney more shirts give my love to the children good by
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Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.
NOTE from Jayne I'm going to leave this in another week...
This week I had an email from a lady who would like to know about the Navy on the Great Lakes during the Civil War. She is researching her ancestor, William "Windy Bill" Gebhart/Gabheart/Gebbart/Gebheart who was allegedy a sailor in the Civil War on the Great Lakes.
He was born in 1834 in Kentucky. He married Nancy Caroline Estes in Dec 1867 (she thinks in Newton Co., MO) In the 1880 census he was listed in Johnson, Co., Nebraska with the Gabheart spelling. Then in 1910 with son Robert Gebhart in Peoria IL A son William Thomas Gebhart was reportedly also with the Navy on the Great Lakes in 1889-1890.
Can anyone help here? You may send your answers to me here at [email protected] or to [email protected] If you send it directly, please copy me on it so I can share the answer with the readers.
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DID YOU KNOW?
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Memorial Day History
http://www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.html
Memorial Day
http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/memorial/memorial.html
History of Memorial Day
http://www.twilightbridge.com/hobbies/festivals/memorial/history.htm
...................and there you have it.
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]
From: Cyndis list of new sites
URL: http://www.geocities.com/seventeenthkyinf/
TITLE: 17th Kentucky Volunteer Infantry, US
DESCRIPTION: Rosters, burial info, and history of the 17th Ky Vol Inf.
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From: Edward Harding
There is a good website containing information on Major General Bryan Grimes of Pitt County, North Carolina, and also excepts of letters home to his wife. The website can be
found at http://docsouth.unc.edu/grimes/grimes.html
If anyone is interested in finding books on the War, especially hard to find or out of print books, they may want to check these two sites:
Abebooks.com
http://www.abebooks.com
Clayton Thompson Bookseller
http://www.civilwarmall.com/bookseller/main.htm
NOTE from Jayne General Grimes is the Great Grandfather of Mr. Harding's wife.
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From: US-Civil-War maillist
"2 Women who are experts on black Civil War Regiment meet"
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20040530-9999-1m30civilwar.html
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From: bitsobluengray
Online Civil War Records, Indexes & Rosters
http://www.militaryindexes.com/civilwar/
Online Military Indexes & Records
http://www.militaryindexes.com/
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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.
HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
[email protected]
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From: An Madra Rua
Old Fashioned Taffy Pull
2-1/2 cups sugar
1-1/2 cups light corn syup
4 teaspoons white vinegar
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup evaporated milk
Combine sugar, syrup, vinegar and salt in a large, heavy saucepan over low heat, Stir untill the sugar dissolves, cover with a lid briefly to get any sugar crystals off the sides of the pan. Bring to a boil, stirring constantly.
Add milk in a thin stream, stirring constantly. Cook to firm ball stage (248*F/120*C), or untill a small amount of mixture is dropped into cold water and forms a ball that holds until pressed. Remove from heat.
Pour mixture onto a buttered marble slab or similar surface. As soon as outside edges cool enough to touch, take a small portion of the candy and start stretching or pulling. Use on the tips of your (greased) fingers. Pull until taffy becomes light in color and is no longer sticky.
Twist each pulled strip slightly and place on waxed paper. When all the candy is pulled, cut each piece into about 1-inch pieces. Wrap each piece in waxed paper and twist ends. Store in covered container at room temperature. Makes about 100 pieces.
Variation: For Brown Sugar Taffy, substitute 2-1/4 cups firmly packed brown sugar for the sugar.
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From: MM3C11259
The following was written by Capt Pettit who when captured was in the 120th NY infantry, Co F commander. Pettit was captured in the Wilderness in June, 1864. He was 39 when he enlisted.
DESCRIPTION OF ENVELOPE
Addressed to: James B. Smillie
No. 20, West 41st Street
New York
From: Capt Gilbert Pettit
Prisoner of War
near Columbia, S.C.
Across top center of envelope: By Flag of Truce
Postage stamps- left to right, top right
1. .03 U.S. Stamp
2. .10 Confederate Stamp
Note: Confederate stamps were not valid for delivery of mail in the U.S. A U.S.
stamp had to be affixed to this letter once it passed the lines for it to be
delivered to the NY addressee
Postmarks (3)
1. Target style- no lettering cancelling U.S. stamp
2. Partially illegible postmark cancelling both the U.S. and Confederate stamps
specifying CHARL( rest illegible)- Charleston?
Note: the above postmarks had to be applied after the letter was delivered to Union
hands.
3. Clear postmark to the left of stamps- PORT ROYAL S.C. Nov 21 ' 64
Notation at the bottom of the envelope- Rec'd New York Nov 26th 1864
LETTER
Written on 4x8" lined paper similar to that used by children
Camp Military Prison near
Dear Cousin, Columbia, S.C. Oct 27, 1864
I wrote you on the 12th inst to send me a box of provision. For fear you did not get my letter I write again. If you have not sent it you will confer a great favor if you will do so.
I would like a blanker or two of some kind, some socks, a pair of shoes ------- 8 and a little underclothing and a cheap overcoat. As for the provision, send such as you think best. A ham, sugar and coffee would go good. Perhaps you could send me some can fruit and meat but use your own judgement. I would also like a cheap carpet bag to carry things we have. If we are exchanged soon, I will not need these things. Perhaps (name illegible) and some of the rest will help you get it up. Frank is still in the hospital at Charleston. The last I heard from him (10 days ago) he was improving. My health is very good. We are prisoners at a camp near --------?-----------
Prison, near Columbia, S.C. address per Flag of Truce----------?-------- Hilton Head, care of Gen'l Shafter. Send paper and envelopes.
Give my love to all. Hoping Imay have the pleasure of meeting you soon, I remain affectionately
Gilbert
NOTE from MM3C
Jayne- did some research to find out Pettit's Regiment, Co and when he was captured. Perhaps you can add a postscript to this letter regarding the camp name which was unreadable, possibly the General referred to ( Was fairly unreadable- my best attempt of Shauter, or Thauter was Shafter. Also whether he survived the war. Wonder who the Frank was he mentioned?
Regards Ted
NOTE FROM Jayne....... After the last newsletter was sent out, I received this information from IllinoisCW...
The name of the Civil War prison, of stockade style, was Camp Sorghum. There were also prisoners held at the state penitentiary as well as the state arsenal. It was a questionable act, holding POWs as prisoners in state penitentiaries but both sides did so. It was very questioned in regard to holding them at an arsenal. John Hunt Morgan was held prisoner at the Ohio State Pen.
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From: An Madra Rua
This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html
PART 6....... April 1865
Albert Underwood Civil War Diary
Sun. Apr. 24: We were wakened this morning at 3 oclock by cannonading. Harnessed and ready to move by day. The firing grew pretty fierce and we were ordered to move forward. We took position about 7 1/2 oclock but the Rebs got whipped by 8, so that we moved forward about 8 1/2 oclock. Crossed the Cain river on pontoon, made several halts, took up pontoon. Rebs followed to river but kept under cover. Pine country all the way to Cotile Landing which we reached about 10 oclock and went into camp.
Mon. Apr. 25: Left camp a 11 oclock and went round by Henderson's Hill on account of a bridge being burnt on the road. A little skirmishing this morning. The gunboats and the 3rd Battery shelled the woods some just as we passed Cotile Landing Bridge. Beautiful weather. Road good but very dusty. Two squadrons of cavalry went down the river road. Went into camp at 5 oclock on bayou rapides in about 15 miles of Alexandria.
Tues. Apr. 26: Left camp at 6 oclock. Had only got about 3 miles when skirmishing commenced again in our rear. We turned off the road about 400 yards into the edge of the woods and masked our battery and forces and in about 2 hours the cavalry had drawed them on in range of our right flank when they raised and poured in a valley, but they had discovered the trap and skedaddled a little too soon for us. The 3rd Battery shelled them a little as they went. Reached Alexandria about 5 oclock. Reinforcements came up today.
Wed. Apr. 27: Warm and cloudy this morning. There was an attack on this place while we were gone above. The Rebs came up on the other side of the river. Our men soon made them skedaddle. The river is full of boats now. Some of the gunboats are above the rapids and can't get below. Heard the gunboats firing all day and also at midnight. Went up to the 21st camp this morning.
Thurs. Apr. 28: Uncomfortably warm today. Received orders about 2 oclock to get under arms immediately. Moved back about a quarter of a mile and formed a line of battle and remained in position all night. A strong line was formed resting on the river on our left flank and on the bayou above town on our right flank. Several buildings are to be seen burning along up the bayou tonight. Everything passed off quiet tonight.
Fri. Apr. 29: Remained in position till 8 oclock and then went back to our respective camps. Quite warm today. Everything is quiet today with the exception of the 13th Army Corps moving their camp nearer town. I went up to the 1st Heavy Artillery camp this evening to see the boys. George Deverter came down with me. Wrote some letters today. Any amount of hucksters and bake shop in town now.
Sat. Apr. 30: Received orders to harness and put up one days rations. It was the intention to go across the river and assist in getting off some cotton that was over there. We stood harnessed all day but did not move. Got orders to unharness about dark. Very warm weather. The boats were ordered to coal up last evening. Rather still, lonesome times here. Just at the present time many of the boys are fishing for pastime.
Continued next week.................
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here
NEW!!!!! [email protected]
has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin. He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"
[email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.
[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book about them. Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake
[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.
[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected] Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.
[email protected]
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.
You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
JUNE is a very active month for Living Histories and Reenactments so be sure to check the Website
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0604.html
June 3-6 Annual Blue and Gray Reunion, Civil War Weekend in Philippi, WV. Event includes much living history, medical scenarios, period music, encampments, demonstrations, parades, skirmishes and a reenactment at 2 pm Sunday. Saturday activities include artillery demonstration at 11 am; skirmish 1 pm at the bridge; Civil War Ball 8 pm. Most activities are free. 304-457-4265 or 304-457-5183.
June 5-6 Blue and Gray Days at Point Lookout State Park, MD. Living history drills and programs and demonstrations and exhibits about life at the prisoner-of-war camp. 11 am-4 pm Saturday and 11 am-3 pm Sunday. Free with paid park fees. 301-872-5688.
Sat. June 5 & Sun., June 6 Pennypacker Mills, Schwenksville, PA Civil War Reunion Weekend A must-see experience for the entire family as you emerge yourselves into the Civil War era to see an authentic military encampment, period music and fashion, guest speakers, living history demonstrations, sutlers, artillery, and battle scenes. Ongoing activities both days. On-site parking and refreshments available. No pets, please. Saturday 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. No charge.
June 12-13 Reenactment and living history weekend commemorating the 140th anniversary of the Battle of Trevilian Station in Louisa County, VA (between Charlottesville and Richmond). Camps open 9 am-5 pm Saturday, 10 am-4 pm Sunday. Demonstrations, plantation house tours and other programs scheduled. Adult tickets: $10 daily, $15 two-day. Site is located on Route 15, three miles south of Boswell Tavern (Routes 15 and 22). 540-832-2708 or email [email protected]
June 26-27 Living history encampment and demonstrations by the 20th Maine and the US Sharpshooters at the Pennsylvania Memorial, Maryland troops in Pitzer Woods and Virginia soldiers at Spangler Spring in the Gettysburg National Military Park, PA.
www.nps.gov/gett or 717-334-1124 extension 422.
JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM
September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
June 1 & 2 - OPEN CHAT
June 8 & 9 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights. If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill.
June 15 & 16 - OPEN CHAT
June 22 & 23 - To be announced
June 29 & 30 - To be announced
We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
Jayne & Bill
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