June 2004

June 2004 Weekly Fireside Newsletters

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 05 June 2004

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Last week it was Memorial Day and this week we celebrated D-Day and now we celebrate the life of one of Presidents .   Friday is our National Day of Mourning, but the room will still be open for anyone who wants to be there.

I also have some new and exciting news for you all. The Genealogy Community is "moving" again.   Instead of being under the Parenting Roof, we will finally be under Research & Learn, which is probably where we should have been all along. HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!!! DON'T PANIC!!!!! The rooms will be the same!!!! all your links will still work!!!! Matter of fact, we will be easier to find, and our chats will be promoted by R & L unlike they have been in Parenting..... One of the biggest changes you will notice will be our names. Instead of HOST FMLY, we will be HOST RL.   Will and I are both excited about our change... You probably won't notice any difference at all, except, as I said, our names.

Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill...    Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only)   The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.

JOIN HOST FMLY Rose.... Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the other Genealogy chats (AOL only) by going to KEYWORD: Genealogy Forum > then up in the top right corner pick "hosted chats".   The link to message boards is also located at the same place.

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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HERBERT EVANS
1st Texas Cavalry
Buried Capron City Cemetery
Capron, Illinois

The hardest part of the War?
Making explanations afterwards.
Nobody seemed to listen.
"Why'd you move North?"
"Had to."
"What battles you fight in?"
"None. Just guarded railroads and bridges."
"Was you under Terry's command?"
"No, we were ......."
"Must a fought with Hood.
You sure raised Hell in Tennessee.
You Johnnies were fightin' fools.
Sure did yourself proud."
"Yes. They were good.
But you see,
First Texas Cavalry was Federal,"

by Frank Crawford

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
question, please let us know.

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DID YOU KNOW?
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"Civil War"
or
"War Between the States"

The Congressional Record of March 2, 1918, reports joint resolution No. 41 wherein Congress recognized the title "War Between the States" as proper:

"A War was waged from 1861 to 1865 between two organized governments; the United States of America, and the Confederate States of America. These were the official titles of the contending parties.

"It was not a "Civil War", as it was not fought between two parties within the same government.

"It was not a "War of Secession". for the Southern States seceded without a thought of war. The right of a State to secede had never been questioned.

"It was not a "War of Rebellion" for sovereign, Independent States, co-equal, can not rebel against each other.

"It was a "War between the States", because twenty-two non-seceding States made war upon eleven seceding State to force them back into the Union of the States. It was not until after the surrender of 1865 that secession was decided to be unconstitutional."

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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]

From: Cyndis list of new sites

URL:    http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/june2004.htm
TITLE:    A Campaign That Failed as Recalled by Mark Twain
DESCRIPTION:    The war remembrances as written by Mark Twain and
condensed from "The Private History of a Campaign That Failed" by James
Walker for the American Civil War History Chatroom in the former Genealogy
Forum on AOL.

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From: Kashathree

Maps.com - Reference
http://www.maps.com/reference/history/ushistory/
A good timeline

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From: Ranneli

WWII Diaries & Journals
http://www.teacheroz.com/WWII_Oral_History.htm

OUR CONFEDERATE POWS
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1314/confederatepows.html

Indiana Regiments
http://www.indianainthecivilwar.com/prisoners/indy/crown.htm

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From: Maryd0318

Civil War Books
http://www.wardhousebooks.com/index.html

Green's USED GENEALOGY BOOKS
http://home.earthlink.net/~genbooks/

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From:   Moweq

Vigo County, Terre Haute, IN Civil War Monument
http://www.vigocounty.org/Court%20House%20History/S&S%20Monument.jpg

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From An Madra Rue

RootsWeb Review, 19 May 2004

Victorian Britain.
What was life for our ancestors really like during this period? See the
"Learning Curve: Victorian Britain," an exhibition created and made
available by its National Archives at:
http://learningcurve.pro.gov.uk/victorianbritain/default.htm

U.S.A.
POW/MIA Records: Korean War Data File of American Prisoners of War,
AA-K; 49 records; Janette Pannell
http://userdb.rootsweb.com/pow_mia/

MONTANA. Silver Bow County. Butte. Basin Creek Cemetery;
15 records; Linda Albright
http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries/

VERMONT. Caledonia County. Danville. Vermont burials;
5,290 records; Louise Lessard for the Town of Danville
http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20040531152409990002
Last Widow of a Civil War Veteran Dies

Facial Reconstruction.....   Circa 1700's
http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/research_collections/research/anthropology/crsp/arccrsppearlstskull.html

Civil War Sites
http://www.plymouthhistory.org/linkcivilwar.htm

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From: bitsobluengray

Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.
     HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
[email protected]

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From: [email protected]

Saw the recipe for taffy pull in the Weekly Fireside... makes me homesick
for my youth! We used to pull taffy at my grandmother's, esp. in the winter
as we could cool the plates on the back porch. I did it with my scout troop
one year at Halloween (and pulled the new crown right off my tooth).. but
it was fun.

((((Phoebe))))))   LOL thanks....   glad to hear somebody reads the newsletter ;) Funny how different things "take us back"

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From: An Madra Rua

This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html

PART 7....... May 1865

Albert Underwood Civil War Diary

Sun. May 1: Beautiful morning, a still, lonesome day. Went to Catholic Church twice today. George Lowe and Dan Thomas came down today. Levi Reed and I took a walk up town this evening and when we returned our battery was harnessing up. Just had time to saddle and get ready when we started out about 8 1/2 oclock and went out about 4 miles and went into camp about midnight on Bayou Robert at forks of roads.
Mon. May 2: Clear beautiful morning. Harnessed about noon and moved one section on the road leading up the bayou and the other section on the road down the bayou. Harnessed again about 3 oclock and moved down the road and waited till our men came in and then took position at the forks of the roads and went into camp about 5 oclock. Some skirmishing today. About 200 teams were out after cotton, some loaded others returned empty.
Tues. May 3: Received a mail today. The most of our division passed here today going out about Gov. Moore's Plantation. A number of teams passed out this evening after forage. Remained all day at this forks of the roads. Skirmishing again today and some cannonading in the evening out south of here. The 17th Corps camped near here this evening. I went over to 1st Mo. battery to see my old friend Christie
Wed. May 4: Cannonading again this morning out south. The 17th Army Corps moved out at daylight this morning. We graze our horses twice a day now. A train of wagons went out today but could not get any forage for the Rebs'. Gen. Ja. Mower is fighting them pretty faithfully this evening. We remained at our same positions again today - awful dusty. The COTY BELL was captured and burnt today down near Ft. De Rusy, about (?) men were lost.
Thurs. May 5: Harnessed at 3 oclock this morning and left at daylight and went out to Gov. Moore"s Plantation and camped. Expected to get into a fight today sure. We put our horses in a good stable close by. Some skirmishing today but none on our picket line. I was just outside our picket line this morning to see if I could get a peek at the Rebel pickets. Quite beautiful day. Bayou Robert runs by here, also the railroad.
Fri. May 6: Harnessed about 5 oclock this morning. Remained till noon and fed and moved out about 1 oclock, formed several lines of battle. About 3 oclock we got in range of a Reb battery and opened on it with two guns. It only replied twice. We then advanced the other two guns near a bridge on the bayou, but returned and our whole brigade went to the left flank and camped about dark, the firing having entirely ceased. Beautiful country, floods of dust flying.
Sat. May 7: Harnessed at 4 oclock, moved out at 8 oclock. Took several positions, about (?) oclock we took position right on the north side of bayou Moray and opened a heavy fire on the Rebs on the other side. We drove them out of reach of our guns. Two of the 1st Mo. guns were brought up and opened fire on them about 3 oclock. Part of our Brigade crossed over, also 2 Mo. guns. They answered with artillery. The 89th and 119th played on them pretty heavy. After dark we went back to our old camp at Bayou Robert. Reached at 11 oclock.

Continued next week.................

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

NEW!!!!! [email protected] has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin. He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

[email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.

[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.

[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]

[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]    Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what he can find for you.

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.htm l

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0604.hfml

June 12-13 Reenactment and living history weekend commemorating the 140th anniversary of the Battle of Trevilian Station in Louisa County, VA (between Charlottesville and Richmond). Camps open 9 am-5 pm Saturday, 10 am-4 pm Sunday. Demonstrations, plantation house tours and other programs scheduled. Adult tickets: $10 daily, $15 two-day. Site is located on Route 15, three miles south of Boswell Tavern (Routes 15 and 22). 540-832-2708 or email [email protected]

June 26-27 Living history encampment and demonstrations by the 20th Maine and the US Sharpshooters at the Pennsylvania Memorial, Maryland troops in Pitzer Woods and Virginia soldiers at Spangler Spring in the Gettysburg National Military Park, PA. www.nps.gov/gett or 717-334-1124 extension 422.

JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)

June 8 & 9 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights. If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill.

June 15 & 16 - OPEN CHAT

June 22 & 23 - Cleaning & Photographing old Grave markers

June 29 & 30 - To be announced

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.

Jayne & Bill
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 13 June 2004

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Thursday and Friday nights were our Songs, Letters, and Poems nights. We read some favorites of mine and then had a couple of special request from chatters. It was good to see IllinoisCW in the room as he hadn't been there for awhile. We've had some new chatters in the room too and it's always good to see their enthusiasm.

This week is OPEN CHAT where we can talk about anything you like to re the Civil War. Do you have a Civil War ancestor you can't find??   Join us, maybe we can help or at least give you some suggestions on where to look.

I also have some new and exciting news for you all. The Genealogy Community is "moving" again.   Instead of being under the Parenting Roof, we will finally be under Research & Learn, which is probably where we should have been all along. HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!!! DON'T PANIC!!!!! The rooms will be the same!!!! all your links will still work!!!! Matter of fact, we will be easier to find, and our chats will be promoted by R & L unlike they have been in Parenting..... One of the biggest changes you will notice will be our names. Instead of HOST FMLY, we will be HOST RL.   Will and I are both excited about our change... You probably won't notice any difference at all, except, as I said, our names.

Join us some Thursday or Friday night and get in on the fun. We have plenty of places to sit around the Fireside and warm cider for everyone.

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.

JOIN HOST FMLY Rose.... Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritage to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Community

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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This was sent to me by An Madra Rua:

Buried With the Flag

An army nurse, returning home from her work among the wounded to die, requested that she might be buried with the old flag wrapped around her. --- "Women's Work in the Civil War", pg 493.

Home she went, exhausted, dying
With her soldier husband lying
       At her side with battle scars,
And she said: "When death has found me,
Soothed me into rest and crowned me,
Wrap the flag I love around me,
          With the glorious Stripes and Stars."

With the Stars and Stripes wrapped around her
She was speaking truth profounder
       Than bugle ever brayed;
While the patriot women render
To the Flag a love so tender,
Not a Stripe shall lose its splendor
        Not one Star will ever fade.

And the earth that closed upon her
Seemed to rise up with new honor
         And draw neared unto God;
While all hearts were rent asunder
With a thrill of awe and wonder
As the Stars and Stripes went under
         The very ground they trod.

Oh! The sweet and tender story
Of these patriot souls sheds glory
        On the Flag forever more.
We shall love the cause they wrought for,
We shall seek the end they sought for,
We shall guard the Flag they fought for,
        And in living, dying, bore
                                -------Rev. A.J. Hough, Bradford VT

from the book Our Army Nurses, by Mary A. Gardner Holland, 1895

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.

I received the following question from [email protected]. I sent it to my guru but I'm also going to put it here.   If anyone knows the answer.... PLEASE email me here at [email protected]

Are there any lists of people who paid a substitute for the Civil War? Dashmom's ggrandfather was supposed to have paid a sub. Charles Carroll Hubbard, from Middletown, CT.      And now that poses a second question from me......   is there a list or a way to know who the substitutes were.... or who substituted for who???

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DID YOU KNOW?
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From: CageyCat

What is the origin of the 21-gun salute?

The use of gun salutes for military occasions is traced to early warriors who demonstrated their peaceful intentions by placing their weapons in a position that rendered them ineffective. Apparently this custom was universal, with the specific act varying with time and place, depending on the weapons being used. A North African tribe, for example, trailed the points of their spears on the ground to indicate that they did not mean to be hostile. The tradition of rendering a salute by cannon originated in the 14th century as firearms and cannons came into use. Since these early devices contained only one projectile, discharging them once rendered them ineffective. Originally warships fired seven-gun salutes--the number seven probably selected because of its astrological and Biblical significance. Seven planets had been identified and the phases of the moon changed every seven days. The Bible states that God rested on the seventh day after Creation, that every seventh year was sabbatical and that the seven times seventh year ushered in the Jubilee year.Land batteries, having a greater supply of gunpowder, were able to fire three guns for every shot fired afloat, hence the salute by shore batteries was 21 guns. The multiple of three probably was chosen because of the mystical significance of the number three in many ancient civilizations. Early gunpowder, composed mainly of sodium nitrate, spoiled easily at sea, but could be kept cooler and drier in land magazines. When potassium nitrate improved the quality of gunpowder, ships at sea adopted the salute of 21 guns.The 21-gun salute became the highest honor a nation rendered. Varying customs among the maritime powers led to confusion in saluting and return of salutes. Great Britain, the world's preeminent seapower in the 18th and 19th centuries, compelled weaker nations to salute first, and for a time monarchies received more guns than did republics. Eventually, by agreement, the international salute was established at 21 guns, although the United States did not agree on this procedure until August 1875. The gun salute system of the United States has changed considerably over the years. In 1810, the "national salute" was defined by the War Department as equal to the number of states in the Union--at that time 17. This salute was fired by all U.S. military installations at 1:00 p.m. (later at noon) on Independence Day. The President also received a salute equal to the number of states whenever he visited a military installation.In 1842, the Presidential salute was formally established at 21 guns. In 1890, regulations designated the "national salute" as 21 guns and redesignated the traditional Independence Day salute, the "Salute to the Union," equal to the number of states. Fifty guns are also fired on all military installations equipped to do so at the close of the day of the funeral of a President, ex-President, or President-elect.Today the national salute of 21 guns is fired in honor of a national flag, the sovereign or chief of state of a foreign nation, a member of a reigning royal family, and the President, ex-President and President-elect of the United States. It is also fired at noon of the day of the funeral of a President, ex-President, or President-elect.Gun salutes are also rendered to other military and civilian leaders of this and other nations. The number of guns is based on their protocol rank. These salutes are always in odd numbers. Source: Headquarters, Military District of Washington, FACT SHEET: GUN SALUTES, May 1969.

..................and there you have it.

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WEEKLY WEB SITES WE'VE RECEIVED
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]

From: Cyndis list of new sites

URL: http://www.archives.gov/facilities/ca/laguna_niguel/disabled_veterans_files.html
TITLE:    Los Angeles Disabled Veterans Home, Partial Case Files List,
1888-1933
DESCRIPTION:    The Los Angeles Disabled Veterans Home, commonly known as
Sawtelle, was established in 1888 at the corner of Wilshire and Sawtelle.
The men on this list served in the Civil War, Spanish-American War, various
Indian conflicts, Pershing's incursion into Mexico, or the First World War.
Some served in several of these conflicts. These surviving case files
represent only a portion of the men who lived at Sawtelle.

URL:    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/13thWVI/
TITLE:    13th REGIMENT WV VOLUNTEER INFANTRY
DESCRIPTION:    Internet Group. This group brings decendents and friends
of the Infantry together.

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From: Ranneli

WWII Diaries & Journals
http://www.teacheroz.com/WWII_Oral_History.htm

OUR CONFEDERATE POWS
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1314/confederatepows.html

Indiana Regiments
http://www.indianainthecivilwar.com/prisoners/indy/crown.htm

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From An Madra Rua

Historian Traces Drug Industry, Abuse Back to Civil War
http://www.jointogether.org/sa/news/summaries/reader/0,1854,570316,00.html

Civil War Battle Remains Buried..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3966361,00.html

Was Hunley the Victim of a Mighty Wind?
Records Suggest That a Cold Front Helped Sink Cofederate Submarine
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41900-2004Apr25.html

Uncovering the Past
Underground railroad site and CLARKE family interest.
http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=17515&SecID=83

HAVENS;... And Bulldozing It
About Franklin, Tennessee and Battlefield preservation
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9906E0DB173DF933A05757C0A9629C8B63

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From: DaePowell

http://www.coshoctontribune.com/news/stories/20040530/localnews/537848.html
Very informative and casual

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I not only read but so look forward to getting this news letter.
Thank you.
Good job
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From: An Madra Rua

This is my source: http://dcwl.com/~dave/underwood.html

PART 8....... May 1864

Albert Underwood Civil War Diary

Sun. May 8: We remained in camp today. The 89th lost 4 killed and 11 wounded. The 119th 1 killed and 1 wounded in the fight yesterday. A quiet and lonesome and is quite warm and dusty. The river is blockaded now below here and communication is cut off by way of river for the present. Part of the 17th Corps camped close here this evening. Forage is getting very scarce in reach of here now. Skirmishing again today by the cavalry in front.
Mon. May 9: A little sprinkle of rain this morning cloudy all day. I feel tired and drowsy today. We are making preparations to move down the river in a few days. Have heard of no skirmishing today. Everything is quiet and peaceable now this evening. Four gunboats have got over the falls. The 13th and 19th Corps are getting in readiness to move down the river from Alexandria.
Tues. May 10: Rained a little last night. Skirmishing this morning. Harnessed about 7 oclock. A dash was made among our pickets and drove in to the infantry pickets when they checked them and drove them back. One section of artillery went out and throwed a few shells and returned. We harnessed up but did not move. We unharnessed about 1 oclock. I rode out about a mile this evening to a sugar plantation, saw some barley nearly ripe enough to cut. Harnessed at 10 oclock tonight.
Wed. May 11: Hitched up at 4 oclock and unhitched and unharnessed about 8 oclock. Cool, windy today. One section of the 1st Mo. Battery went out on picket about 10 oclock last night. Heidrick and I went out about 2 miles last evening and found plenty of dewberries. We are out of food for our horses and grazing has about give out near here. The cistern water has give out here.
Thurs. May 12: All is quiet this morning. There has been no skirmishing near here today. The pickets were fired on last night. The officer of the day reported that he could hear artillery moving across the northwest. Cannonading could be heard today down the river. The 13th Corp has left Alexandria. The gunboats not all over the falls yet. We graze our horses twice a day now. Beautiful weather.
Fri. May 13: Beautiful morning. The gunboats are all over the falls now and all the transports have left Alexandria and 13th and 19th Corps are moving down the river road towards Ft. De Rusy. Preparations are making for the 16th and 17th Corps to move in the morning. The 2nd Brigade has come out here this evening. Received orders about 8 oclock to march at 4 1/2 oclock in the morning.
Sat. May 14: Left camp at 5 oclock. The boats were fired into soon after we reached the river. The gunboats shelled the woods at different times through the day. We passed the 13th Corps and Banks' supply train. The road crowded full of teams all day. The transports moved down as we did, the road leading along the river bank all the way. Camped at 8 oclock near where the Rebs had their battery and captured the gunboat WARNER.
Sun. May 15: Left camp at 11 oclock. Cannonading in front. We left the river about 2 oclock. Skirmishing half mile to our right, marched pretty fast this evening. Reached a little prairie and made a long halt. Heavy cannonading to the southeast near Marksville by the 19th Army Corp. The 13th is in the rear. Reached Ft DeRusy about 11 oclock and camped. Marched several miles through heavy timber after we left the river.
Mon. May 16: Harnessed and moved out on the Marksville Road about 3 oclock. We reached the prairie where a heavy cannonading was going on about 8 oclock. We maneuvered round considerable but never got a chance to fire any. The firing ceased about noon, the Rebs having skedaddled. We left the field about 1 oclock for the Atchafalaya Bayou. Brough was shot this evening by a bushwhacker. We marched slow and camped about 9 oclock.

To read the rest of the diary go to http://dcwi.com/~dave/underwood.html

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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

NEW!!!!! [email protected] has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin. He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

[email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.

[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.

[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]

[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]   Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what he can find for you.

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]

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Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html

June 19 Special program, "Civil War Medicine," at Washington Monument State Park (South Mountain) near Boonsboro, MD. 10am-3 pm. Park fees apply. 301-432-8065.

June 19 Living history tour, focus is on the Civil War resources of the Old City Cemetery in Lynchburg, VA. Tour includes sites related to the Battle of Lynchburg (140th anniversary) and the Confederate section. 10 am. Free. Pest House Museum open noon-4 pm. 434-847-1465 or www.gravegarden.org More on 140th anniversary programs at www.valley1864.com

June 19 & 20   Civil War Fife-and-Drum Muster at the Ellicott City, MD B&O Railroad Station Museum, 2711 Maryland Ave. Benefits battlefield preservation. Details: www.ecbo.org   or 410-461-1945.

June 25-27 Conference, "Women & the Civil War," in Richmond, VA. Sponsored by the Society for Women and the Civil War. More info: www.womenandthecivilwar.org or 540-381-4518.

June 25-July 4    Gettysburg, PA Civil War Heritage Days with events throughout the community. Call 717-334-6274 for the latest listings.

June 26-27 Living history encampment and demonstrations by the 20th Maine and the US Sharpshooters at the Pennsylvania Memorial, Maryland troops in Pitzer Woods and Virginia soldiers at Spangler Spring in the Gettysburg National Military Park, PA. www.nps.gov/gett or 717-334-1124 extension 422.

JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html

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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)

June 8 & 9 - Our Special Songs, Letters, and Poems nights. If you have something you would like to share, please send to HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill.

June 17 & 18 - OPEN CHAT

June 24 & 25 - Cleaning & Photographing old Grave markers

July 1 & 2 - To be announced

July 8 & 9 - our Special Songs, letters and poems nights If you have a special request or have something you would like to share, please send an email to me or to Bill

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.

Jayne & Bill
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 20 June 2004

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We had great open chats last week!!! We thank all who joined us.

Join us this Thursday and Friday for a talk on Cleaning and Photographing Gravestones. Some Do's and Don'ts. We'll be looking for you.

I want to tell you all about something that happened to me this past weekend. Sunday was such a gorgeous day... temps in low to mid 70's, nice breeze flowing, and low humidity....   a PERFECT day!! So what do you do on a perfect day? You visit Fort Delaware. :D   Last week in another Civil War chatroom I met a young man who said he was an interpreter at Ft. Delaware. Of course I just had to find him. And find him I did. He was a member of Ahl's Heavy Artillery Battery. We had a great chat...   What would you think if I tried to get him to come talk to us some Thurs or Fri night? Hopefully the hour won't be too late for him since he does have to work Fridays and Saturdays.

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OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only) The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.

JOIN HOST FMLY Rose.... Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Community

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THE CROSSING AT FREDERICKSBURG
December 11, 1862
by George Henry Boker(1823-1890)

I lay in my tent at mid-day,
Too full of pain to die,
When I heard the voice of Burnside,
And an answering shout reply.

I heard the voice of the General,--
'T was firm, though low and sad;
But the roar that followed his question
Laughed out till the hills were glad.

"O comrade, open the curtain.
And see where our men are bound,
For my heart is still in my bosom
At that terrible, mirthful sound.

"And hark what the General orders,
For I could not catch his wors;
And what means that hurry and movement,
That clash of muskets and swords?"

"Lie still, lie still, my Captain,
'T is a call for volunteers;
And the noise that vexes your fever
Is only our soldiers' cheers."

"Where go they?" "Across the river."
"O God! and must I lie still,
While that drum and that measured trampling
Move from me far down the hill?"

"How many?" "I judge, four hundred."
"Who are they? I'll know to a man."
"Our own Nineteenth and Twentieth,
And the Seventh Michigan."

"O, to go, but to go with my comrades!
Tear he curtain away from the hook;
For I'll see them march down to their glory,
If I perish by the look!"

They leaped in the rocking shallops,
Ten offered where one could go;
And the breeze was alive with laughter
Till the boatmen began to row.

Then the shore, where the rebels harbored,
Was fringed with a gush of flame,
And buzzing, like bees, o'er the water
The swarms of their bullets came.

In silence, how dread and solmen!
With courage, how grand and true!
Steadily, steadily onward
The line of the shallops drew.

Not a whisper! Each man was conscious
He stood in the sight of death;
So he bowed to the awful presence,
And treasured his living breath.

'Twixt death in the air above them,
And death in the waves below,
Through balls and grape and shrapnel
They moved--my God, how slow!

And many a brave, stout fellow,
Who sprang in the boat with mirth,
Ere they made that fatal crossing
Was a load of lifeless earth.

And many a brave, stout fellow,
Whose limbs with strength were rife,
Was torn and crushed and shattered,--
A helpless wreck for life.

But yet the boats moved onward;
Through fire and lead they drove,
With the dark, still mass within them,
And the floating stars above,

So loud and near it sounded,
I started at the shout,
As the keels ground on the gravel.
And the eager men burst out.

Cheer after cheer we sent them,
As only armies can,--
Cheers for old Massachusetts,
Cheers for young Michigan!

They formed in lines of battle;
Not a man was out of place.
Then with leveled steel they hurled them
Straight in the rebels' face.

"O, help me, help me. comrade!
For tears my eyelids drown,
As I see their starry banners
Stream up the smoking town.

"And see the noisy workmen
O'er the lengthening bridges run,
And the troops that swarm to cross them
When the rapid work be done.

"For the old heat, or a new one,
Flames up in every vein;
And with fever or with passion
I am faint as death again.

"If this is death, I care not!
Hear me, men, from rear to van!--
One more cheer for Massachusetts,

And one more for Michigan!"

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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
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question, please let us know.

I received the following question from [email protected]. I sent it to my guru but I'm also going to put it here.   If anyone knows the answer.... PLEASE email me here at [email protected]

Are there any lists of people who paid a substitute for the Civil War? Dashmom's ggrandfather was supposed to have paid a sub. Charles Carroll Hubbard, from Middletown, CT.      And now that poses a second question from me......   is there a list or a way to know who the substitues were.... or who substituted for who???

Just ask and ye shall receive......
IllinoisCW sent this answer to the above question. If any others of you have an answer, send it along!!!

I came up with a partial answer regarding the substitutes. It MAY be what your friend is looking for. In the Illinois Adjutant General's Report - as an example -- each regiment lists its "unassigned" recruits. Some of them FOR ILLINOIS are also listed as substitutes. IF they know what state they are looking for they MIGHT be able to go to that state's Adjutant General's report and check it regiment by regiment. Like most true research -- that takes a lot of time but is rewarding IF anything is found. My guess is that this will be the way the answer is found because most of the regiments were simply "state militia" and the Federal Government would not have gotten involved with the names, they simply wanted number. This is JUST A GUESS.

Thank you Frank (((())))

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Cathiwd sent us the following

I found a list in the local Pennsylvania newspaper showing that my ggUncle was paid to be a substitute for a neighbor (and probable cousin) in 1864. It was a list of those drafted on a certain date, and if any of the draftees paid a substitute, the substitute's name was given. I would suggest that Dashmom obtain newspaper microfilm local to her ggrandfather's area for the month or so before the enlistment date, through inter-library loan. I wish her luck!

Cathi

(((((((Cathi)))))))   Thanks so much for sharing this with us.

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From the Civil-War Maillist

Higginson Book Company -
TreasureNet Historical Image Collection
http://www.treasurenet.com/images

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From: Whirlygigger

"Civil War Communications" can be viewed at:
http://www.civilwarsignals.org

Our US/CS 1860's site covers methods and principles of signalling, telegraphy, balloons, cryptography and much more. There's a forum for informing and receiving answers too....

Tnx,
Walt Mathers
Archivist,
Signal Corps Association (1860-1865)

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From Mygenes
The Missouri Partisan Rangers
http://www.rulen.com/partisan/media.htm

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From bitsobluengray

NARA Access to Archival Databases
http://aad.archives.gov/aad/title_list.jsp

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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)

June 24 & 25 - Cleaning & Photographing old Grave markers

July 1 & 2 - OPEN CHAT

July 8 & 9 - our Special Songs, letters and poems nights If you have a special request or have something you would like to share, please send an email to me or to Bill

July 15 & 16 - OPEN CHAT

July 22 & 23 - To be announced

July 29 & 30 -   OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.

Jayne & Bill
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 27 June 2004

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I told you last week that, in another CW I met a young man who said he was an interpreter at Ft. Delaware. And on a visit to the Fort I met him face to face. He is a member of Ahl's Heavy Artillery Battery. We had a great chat...   What would you think if I tried to get him to come talk to us some Thurs or Fri night? Hopefully the hour won't be too late for him since he does have to work Fridays and Saturdays.

This week, on both Thursday and Friday nights we did a talk about "Gravestone Cleaning and Photographing"   If you weren't able to be in the room to "hear" the talk, you will be able to read it as the July Column of the www.bitsofblueandgray.com website as well as at the ShoeString Genealogy http://hometown.aol.com/daepowell/myhomepage/ssg1.htm website, under "presentations"

Next week is OPEN CHAT.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE:   If you have either HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill on you Buddy lists, you will need to change them to HOST RL Jayne and HOST RL WillM.   Good things are in progress for all of us!!!

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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST RL Jayne and HOST RL WillM...    Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room (on AOL only)   The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights. Let us help you find your soldier. Tell us their stories. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.

JOIN HOST RL IrishRose.... Saturday Midnight ET for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Community

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This letter was on one of the Civil War Maillists of a couple of years ago and was sent by [email protected]

This is a letter that Peter S. Tower from Town of Porter wrote back to his
sister Olive A. Tower in 1864. In it he mentions [Grandpa] Madison McCollum
(after his arm had been amputated and he was on his way home) and Madison's
brother M. C. McCollum.

Block House near Fort Dix
September 1st, 1864

Dear Sister,

I received your letter of Aug. 29th yesterday & hasten to answer it. You
said Harm and Dan had gone to Lockport. I hope they are not afraid of the
Draft. We want all such men down here to put this cursed [war, crossed out]
Rebellion down & bring this war to a close. I suppose you have heard that
the 8th has been in another hard fight in this at Reams Station on the
Weldon Railroad Aug. 24 & 25th.

One of our boys rec'd a letter from Co. F today giving a list of casualties
in that Co. F. So I will write them just as we got them. Killed, Sergt.
Chas. R. Northrop & John Greenman, both of Lockport; Prisoners, Corpl. I. C.
Lloyd, Edward G.[?] Perry, Sylvester Moore, M. C. McCollum of Porter. T.
Bust, R. Bailey, A. J. Case, Geo. Drake, Chas. Hewitt, Dan Harrington, Chas.
McLaughlin, R. Mosier, H. Sanford, L. Smith, W. Werth, others pluses[?].
Wounded, Wm. Bromer[?] of Porter, John Kind, Jr., of Pendleton & F. Bishop
of Tonawanda. Total 22.

There was only 40 men in the Co. before the fight so you can judge for
yourself how they were situated. I think I will be satisfied to stay where
I am for all such fights as that. If I have to go, I will do it with a
will, but I shan't beg for the chance. Would you?

We had Muster & Inspection here yesterday at 10 A.M. & the boys are now
looking for their pay but it does not last long with some of them. Madison
McCollum got off the cars here last night to get a drink, and they started
before he got back & he staid all night with me, went on to Seminary
Hospital, Alexandria, this morning.

I feel sorry for Madison for he is a first rate boy. If I was him I would
not take my discharge till I could get a good Berth some other place, for he
might as well get his pay & bounty of the Government for it is dear to him.

The nights are pretty cold now and it must be hard for men that are lying
out at nights. You said you thought Lew could stand it. He is sick in
hospital but I don't know where. I suppose at City[?] Point. Was not in
the last Fight.

Joe Clapsaddle is in Command of the Co. I expect he will get a commission.
He deserves it. Any way, Lt. Rectins[?] started for the Front last
Saturday. Lt. Sully (or rather Capt. Sully) is confined to his bed at
American Hotel, Lockport, N. Y. Capt. Maginnis was killed the 25th, Ult. I
wish you would send me a paper with a list of casualties of the 8th in the
last Fight.

I am well, eat my daily allowance & sleep as much as ever. Give my love to
all, keeping a good share for yourself.

>From your Brother, Peter S. Tower
To O. A. T.

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I'm going to leave this in for another week hoping someone else will have an idea where Dash can check.

I received the following question from [email protected]. I sent it to my guru but I'm also going to put it here.   If anyone knows the answer.... PLEASE email me here at [email protected]

Are there any lists of people who paid a substitute for the Civil War? Dashmom's ggrandfather was supposed to have paid a sub. Charles Carroll Hubbard, from Middletown, CT.      And now that poses a second question from me......   is there a list or a way to know who the substitutes were.... or who substituted for who???

Just ask and ye shall receive......
IllinoisCW sent this answer to the above question. If any others of you have an answer, send it along!!!

I came up with a partial answer regarding the substitutes. It MAY be what your friend is looking for. In the Illinois Adjutant General's Report - as an example -- each regiment lists its "unassigned" recruits. Some of them FOR ILLINOIS are also listed as substitutes. IF they know what state they are looking for they MIGHT be able to go to that state's Adjutant General's report and check it regiment by regiment. Like most true research -- that takes a lot of time but is rewarding IF anything is found. My guess is that this will be the way the answer is found because most of the regiments were simply "state militia" and the Federal Government would not have gotten involved with the names, they simply wanted number. This is JUST A GUESS.

Thank you Frank (((())))

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Cathiwd sent us the following

I found a list in the local Pennsylvania newspaper showing that my ggUncle was paid to be a substitute for a neighbor (and probable cousin) in 1864. It was a list of those drafted on a certain date, and if any of the draftees paid a substitute, the substitute's name was given. I would suggest that Dashmom obtain newspaper microfilm local to her ggrandfather's area for the month or so before the enlistment date, through inter-library loan. I wish her luck!

Cathi

(((((((Cathi)))))))   Thanks so much for sharing this with us.

[email protected] sent us the following:

Since I don't have access to the chats, can someone send me the notes on cleaning and photographing the stones?

(((((Carolyn))))) Thanks for asking!!    The Gravestone Cleaning and Photographing talk will be the July column on the www.bitsofblueandgray.com website. Look for it there in about a week. It will also appear under "Presentations" at

[email protected] asked if anyone had heard of Union Soldiers being paroled at Overton Co., TN His ggrandfather, Sgt. James R Gross of the 11th KY Co. H, was paroled at Overton Co., TN 10-10-1853 by Colonel John M. Hughs of the 25th TN Inf, CSA

((((Melman))))   we'll see what the "faithful" have to say about this.

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along. Thanks!!!!

From: Happy Dae

We were taught in the military that the 21 gun salute came from 1776, the year of our Independence. The numerals of that year add to 21.

...................and there you have it.

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Weekly Web Sites we've received
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]

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From DaePowell

Free Databases: United States
http://www.freesurnamesearch.com/search/us.html

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From Craig Hadley

Drayton Hall: The Civil War & Drayton Hall
http://www.draytonhall.org/online_exhibits/civilwar.htm

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From bitsobluengray

Skedaddle
http://www.pddoc.com/skedaddle/index.html

Signal Corps Association Reenactors' Division
www.civilwarsignals.org

Speech: Lincoln's War
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dfullschedule

Celebrate history with visit to Civil War Heritage Days
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/living/9025282.htm

Civil War battle offers history lesson
http://www.newarkadvocate.com/news/stories/20040627/localnews/730979.html

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.
     HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
[email protected]

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Wmdperkins wrote and asked:

The song that the prison band plays when prisioners were tortured in the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly---do you know its name----was it Lorena?

Ok Gang...   anybody know?????    Let us hear from you.

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Well Bill.....   Maybe this will help you out.

From Sabromav:

A review of the soundtrack for the expanded version of the music from "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" by Ennis Morricone has this list (in Italian it seems).

http://www.soundtrack.net/soundtracks/database/?id=3648
here is the list from that site
Track Listing
1. Il Buono, Il Brutto, Il Cattivo
2. Il Tramonto
3. Sentenza
4. Fuga a Cavallo
5. Il Ponte Di Corde
6. Il Forte
7. Inseguimento
8. Il Deserto
9. La Carrozza Dei Fantasmi
10. La Missione San Antonio
11. Padre Ramirez
12. Marcetta
13. La Storia Di Un Soldato
14. Il Treno Militare
15. Fine Di Una Spia
16. Il Bandito Monco
17. Due Contro Cinque
18. Marcetta Senza Speranza
19. Morte Di Un Soldato
20. L'Estasi Dell'Oro
21. Il Triello

An interesting analysis of the musical score by Charles Leinberger at

utminers.utep.edu/charlesl/700GBU.doc

would seem to make that song number thirteen on the list above....

?The Story of a Soldier?

As Angel Eyes and Tuco continue dining together, Angel Eyes stands up and walks over to a window and gives a signal for music to begin. A band of musician prisoners begins to play and sing ?The Story of a Soldier? (figure 5.14).103 The audience sees the musicians outside, who play violins, flutes, harmonicas, a valve trombone, a bass drum, a guitar, and an accordion. Inside his office, Angel Eyes asks why Tuco has Bill Carson?s tobacco box. Angel Eyes closes the box on Tuco?s fingers and cuffs him to the wooden chair in which he is sitting. Wallace suddenly appears and begins torturing Tuco as Angel Eyes continues questioning him about Bill Carson, and what Carson told him about the gold coins.       ?The Story of a Soldier? is a touching ballad in honor of soldiers who die for their fellow man. The English language lyrics are by songwriter Tommie Connor. In addition to the four different verses shown here, there is a fifteen-measure instrumental interlude after verse four.104 During this interlude, one of the prisoners, who is playing violin, becomes so overcome with grief that he can no longer play. He puts down his violin bow and the guard in charge shouts ?Play that fiddle, you!? The prisoner begins playing again, but the sound of his single violin is enhanced to sound more like a string orchestra. After the interlude, verse five is sung again.

Figure 5.14: ?The Story of a Soldier? from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly by Ennio Morricone? The Story of a Soldier,? by Ennio Morricone and Tommie Connor© 1966, 1968 (Renewed) Edizioni Eureka (Italy) Rights for the world outside Italy controlled by U.S. Music International, Inc. Rights in the U.S.A. and Canada administered by EMI Unart Catalog Inc. (Publishing) and Warner Bros. Publications Inc. (Print) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission. WARNER BROS. PUBLICATIONS U.S. INC., Miami, FL 33014

       Morricone will use this theme throughout the film to signify the suffering of soldiers, both Union and Confederate. Its sentimental tone is in stark contrast to the brutal torture that is seen going on inside Angel Eyes? office. The scene alternates between Wallace?s beating of Tuco and the musicians outside, who know that they are there only to cover up the sound of Tuco?s cries for help. With the exception of the song the men were singing as they threw Maria from their wagon, this is the only cue in this film score for which Morricone uses the human voice with words. There is a very logical and practical reason why he does so here. The voices heard are diegetic; they are the voices of people who are known to exist in the world created by the film?s narrative. Morricone often uses the human voice without words, but the people to whom those voices belong are not characters in the story; those voices are instruments in the nondiegetic music of the film. Like the ?Short March,? ?The Story of a Soldier? is in the key of D major. This is another example of Morricone defying the musical convention of using minor keys for sad, sentimental music and major keys for brighter, more joyous music. However, he writes so skillfully in either setting that he is able to evoke the desired emotion in spite of his unusual choices of key.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

[email protected] has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin. He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin.

[email protected] has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.

[email protected] has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her. She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

[email protected] has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana. If you need help, send JL an email.

[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Arranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]

[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

[email protected] has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

[email protected] has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email [email protected]   Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what he can find for you.

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/[email protected] does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA. Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html

June 25-July 4 Gettysburg, PA Civil War Heritage Days with events throughout the community. Call 717-334-6274 for the latest listings.

June 26-27 Living history encampment and demonstrations by the 20th Maine and the US Sharpshooters at the Pennsylvania Memorial, Maryland troops in Pitzer Woods and Virginia soldiers at Spangler Spring in the Gettysburg National Military Park, PA. www.nps.gov/gett or 717-334-1124 extension 422.

July 2 - 4   Reenactment in Gettysburg. This year's "Gettysburg, Crossroads of Destiny" features living history, educational programs, and civilian and military demonstrations throughout the weekend. Battles scheduled for 1 pm Friday, 11 am and 4 pm Saturday, and 11 am and 2 pm Sunday. Much more information, ticket ordering: www.gettysburgreenactment.com or 717-338-1525.

July 10 Commemoration of the 140th anniversary of Jubal Early's march on Washington at Summit Hall Farm at Bohrer Park in Gaithersburg, MD. Special programs 9:30 am-1:30 pm Free. www.ci.gaithersburg.md.us or 301-258-6350. See also Fort Stevens listing on same day.

July 10-11 Living history and special programs at the Monocacy National Battlefield (near Frederick, MD) commemorating the 140th anniversary of the battle. Free. www.nps.gov/mono or 301-662-3515

July 17    Richmond City Walking Tour presented by a Richmond National Battlefield Park, VA historian. 2 pm. Free. www.nps.gov/rich or 804-226-1981.

JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free. Saturday & Sunday 10:00AM - 5:00PM www.landisvalleymuseum.org

July 17-18 Living history encampment at the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg, PA. 10 am-4 pm Saturday, noon-4 pm Sunday. www.nationalcivilwarmuseum.org or 866-258-4729.

July 24-25 Living history weekend commemorating the anniversary of the Second Battle of Kernstown. Encampments, demonstrations and march. At the Kernstown battlefield off Route 11 south of Winchester, VA. Free. www.kernstownbattle.org   or 540-662-1824.

July 24-25 Living history, First Battle of Manassas Anniversary activities at the Manassas National Battlefield Park, VA. Special demonstrations and tours. Park fees apply. Details: www.nps.gov/mana   or 703-361-1339.

JULY 31 - AUG 1, Georgetown, DE

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey..... Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

July 1 & 2 - OPEN CHAT

July 8 & 9 - our Special Songs, letters and poems nights If you have a special request or have something you would like to share, please send an email to me or to WillM

July 15 & 16 - OPEN CHAT

July 22 & 23 - To be announced

July 29 & 30 -   OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.

Jayne & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm