July 2004 Weekly Fireside Newsletters

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 04 July 2004

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else.

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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I hope you all had a wonder Independence Day weekend.  Mine was spent with family...    a reunion of sorts, started by my Great Grandfather John Bishop back in 1922 (may have been earlier).  The "main" dish is snapping turtle soup and everyone brings a covered dish. 

Last week, I asked What would you think if I tried to get him to come talk to us some Thurs or Fri night?  re a "soldier" I met at FT. DE  I've talked with him and he is quite willing to spend some time with us even though we do "meet" kind of late. Now it's a matter of setting up a "date"

If you missed it, the Gravestone Cleaning and Photographing talk is now at the ShoeString Genealogy website.   (http://hometown.aol.com/daepowell/myhomepage/ssg1.htm) Scroll down to Presentation and click on View Presentations.  
It is also on the www.bitsofblueandgray.com website as the July Column.  

This week we had open chat both Thursday and Friday nights.  Friday night I was unable to be there and it seems folks kept missing each other during the chat....  No one showed up the same time anyone else did.  Will wasn't able to be there till about 11 and I guess by then you all figured no one would be there.  I apologize to those of you who did take the time to visit. DWes8825 tells me he did help someone with an AOL problem so the night wasn't a total "washout"  

Some of our chatters have been away at the Gettysburg Reenactment over the weekend.  I can't wait to hear their stories.  

Next week are our Special, Songs, Letters and Poems nights.  JOIN US!!!   Hear the words of your ancestors as they told their families what they were doing.  One thing I've noticed, just by reading letters, unless there are specific references, it's difficult to tell just who wrote them.....   Yankees or Confederates.  They all wrote how much they wanted to be home,  how much they missed their families and asked how the folks at home were doing... were the children ok, etc.  

PLEASE TAKE NOTE:   If you have either HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill on you Buddy lists, you will need to change them to HOST RL Jayne and HOST RL WillM.   I've deleted my HOST FMLY Jayne name and Bill has done the same.  Great things are in progress for all of us!!!

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well. 

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST RL Jayne and HOST RL WillM...    Thursday 11 PM ET AND Friday 10 PM ET in the  Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrishRose....  Saturday Midnight ET  for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat 

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.   

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/ 

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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Aura Lea

Words by W.W. Fosdick
Music by G.R. Poulton



When the blackbird in the spring, on the willow tree,
Sat and rocked, I heard him sing, singing Aura Lea
Aura Lea, Aura Lea, maid of golden hair;
Sunshine came along with thee, and swallows in the air. 

Chorus: 

Aura Lea, Aura Lea, maid of golden hair;
Sunshine came along with thee, and swallows in the air. 

In thy blush the rose was born, music when you spake,
Through thine azure eye the morn, sparkling seemed to break.
Aura Lea, Aura Lea, bird of crimson wing,
Never song have sung to me, as in that sweet spring.

Chorus  

Aura Lea! The bird may flee, the willow's golden hair
Swing through winter fitfully, on the stormy air.
Yet if thy blue eyes I see, gloom will soon depart;
For to me, sweet Aura Lea is sunshine through the heart. 

Chorus  

When the mistletoe was green, midst the winter's snows,
Sunshine in thy face was seen, kissing lips of rose.
Aura Lea, Aura Lea, take my golden ring;
Love and light return with thee, and swallows with the spring.

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.

I'm going to leave this in for another week hoping someone else will have an idea where Dash can check. 

I received the following question from Dashmom@aol.com.  I sent it to my guru but I'm also going to put it here.   If anyone knows the answer....  PLEASE email me here at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  

Are there any lists of people who paid a substitute for the Civil War?  Dashmom's ggrandfather was supposed to have paid a sub.  Charles Carroll Hubbard, from Middletown, CT.      And now that poses a second question from me......   is there a list or a way to know who the substitues were....  or who substituted for who???  

Just ask and ye shall receive......   In addition to the answers IllinoisCW and Cathiwd sent,  SnowBeri sent the following:

I don't know if each state did this differently, but I recently read a Civil War pension where one of the interview questions was, "Did you enlist as a substitute for anyone?  If so, who?"  (I was reading pensions from men from New York, Vermont, and Indiana, and I can't recall which state had that question.) If there is no list available for the state, that would mean the researcher might have to go through pension records.  A large task.  If resources are available, I'd start with the men from the same county.

(((((Diane)))))))   Thanks so much   BTW  Tell Bear we said hello. :)

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Melman144@aol.com  asked if anyone had heard of Union Soldiers being paroled at Overton Co., TN  His ggrandfather, Sgt. James R Gross of the 11th KY Co. H, was paroled at Overton Co., TN 10-10-1853 by Colonel John M. Hughs of the 25th TN Inf, CSA

((((Melman))))   we'll  see what the "faithful" have to say about this.  

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!! 

In the Spring of 1861, English-born entertainer Harry McCarthy wrote the popular southern song "The Bonnie Blue Flag" and performed it for the first time in Jackson, Mississippi.  

A shell from the gigantic twenty-inch Rodman Smoothbore gun has the maximum range of about 3.5 miles.  

Author Louisa May Alcott served in the war as a Nurse.  

...................and there you have it.  

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From  HOST RL Dae

Free Databases: United States  (Old)
http://www.freesurnamesearch.com/search/us.html

Because the following URL could not be "read" into HOST RL Dae's Beginner's chatroom, I am putting it in here.   

Besides checking military and bounty land records in the National Archives, there are other items to seek in your Civil War research. Confederate pensions were granted through the state in which the pensioner served or was living. These files are normally kept in state archives. A listing of these repositories can be found on Internet at http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/confederate_pension_records.html

((((((Dae))))))   thanks for the Tip O' the Dae

Anderson County, Texas - Confederate Pension Applications
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/anderson/military/andercsa.txt?o_xid=0022468880&o_lid=0022468880&o_xt=22468880 


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From one of the mailling lists

Nicknames and naming traditions
http://www.tngenweb.org/franklin/frannick.htm 

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From us-civil-war maillist at yahoogroups.com 

Battle wages on over Civil War flag 
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/local/9073166.htm 

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From An Madra Rua

Genteel Arts Academy
The Eleventh Annual Ladies & Gentlemen of the 1860's Conference
http://www.genteelarts.com 


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From Violetptter

Life in the South-Before, During and after the Confederacy: North Carolina
http://www.pddoc.com/skedaddle/057a/why_i_wrote_it.htm 

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From WolfordGen

Free Genealogy Search Help for Google
http://www.genealogy-search-help.com/ 

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From Cyndislist of new websites

URL:     http://www.militaryindexes.com/civilwar/ 
TITLE:     Online Civil War Records, Indexes & Rosters
DESCRIPTION:     Genealogy directory of searchable databases for finding 
Civil War records.

Thanks to all of you who are sharing Civil War URLs with all of us!!!    PLEASE continue to send them!!!

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill   
CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com   

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Maryd0318 forwarded this to me from the SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com maillist

The Appomattox Society

Dedicated to the 28,231 soldiers of the Confederate States of America
who were there at Appomattox Courthouse with Robert E. Lee. These men
found it within themselves to stay and fight for "Marse Robert" when the
Confederacy was failing, their friends were deserting and their families
were imploring them to comeback home. Unto this end, The Appomattox
Society was formed to honor these men and their descendants. Ever
faithful, they received the now famous General Order No. 9 From General
Lee, stacked their arms, picked up their few meager belongings and
headed to what days before had been a separate country, now again a
state in the United States of America.

The Appomattox Society consists of lineal and collateral descendants of
the men who stayed and received their paroles at Appomattox Courthouse,
Virginia, April 10 - 15, 1865. Persons of any age or gender, who can
show lineage back to one of these soldiers, are eligible to join the
society. The hope is to collect biographical information on every man
that surrendered at Appomattox and put it into a database where it can
be researched by  anyone wanting to find out more information on the men
that were there.

After numerous requests from persons whose ancestors were paroled after
Appomattox, we have agreed that any person who can show lineage to a
confederate ancestor that was paroled after Appomattox shall be eligible
for full membership in the Appomattox Society. We will, in turn, profile
these men in our newsletter also. This includes the soldiers who
surrendered with Gen'l Joe Johnston near Greensboro, N.C., soldiers who
surrendered with with Gen'l E.K. Smith at New Orleans, soldiers who
surrendered with Gen'l Stand Waite in Texas, and other soldiers who can
show parole on or after 9 April, 1865. The society is also open to all
descendants of men who were captured and held until after the surrender.

http://www.appomattoxsociety.org/ 

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From Wmdperkins:  

William tells us he was given a CD by Bobby Horton entitled "Homespun Songs of the C.S.A."   "I highly recommend this to anyone who wants some of the original versions."

((((((William)))))   Thank you for sharing this with us!!

NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.  

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com  

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html 

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com  Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html

July 10  Commemoration of the 140th anniversary of Jubal Early's march on Washington at Summit Hall Farm at Bohrer Park in Gaithersburg, MD. Special programs 9:30 am-1:30 pm Free. www.ci.gaithersburg.md.us or 301-258-6350. See also Fort Stevens listing on same day. 

July 10-11  Living history and special programs at the Monocacy National Battlefield (near Frederick, MD) commemorating the 140th anniversary of the battle. Free. www.nps.gov/mono or 301-662-3515 

July 17 Richmond City Walking Tour presented by a Richmond National Battlefield Park, VA historian. 2 pm. Free. www.nps.gov/rich or 804-226-1981. 

JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free.  Saturday & Sunday  10:00AM - 5:00PM  www.landisvalleymuseum.org  

July 17-18  Living history encampment at the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg, PA. 10 am-4 pm Saturday, noon-4 pm Sunday. www.nationalcivilwarmuseum.org  or 866-258-4729. 

July 24-25  Living history weekend commemorating the anniversary of the Second Battle of Kernstown. Encampments, demonstrations and march. At the Kernstown battlefield off Route 11 south of Winchester, VA. Free. www.kernstownbattle.org   or 540-662-1824. 

July 24-25  Living history, First Battle of Manassas Anniversary activities at the Manassas National Battlefield Park, VA. Special demonstrations and tours. Park fees apply.  Details: www.nps.gov/mana   or 703-361-1339. 

JULY 31 - AUG 1, Georgetown, DE

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey.....  Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html  

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

July 8 & 9  - our Special Songs, letters and poems nights  If you have a special request or have something you would like to share, please send an email to me or to WillM

July 15 & 16  -  OPEN CHAT

July 22 & 23  -  To be announced

July 29 & 30  -   OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  


Jayne & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm 

 

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 11 July 2004


NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else.

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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What great chats we had this past Thursday & Friday!!   Our Special Songs, letters and poems nights..... but....   I kind of forgot Thursday was the 2nd Thursday of the month so we didn't get any read, but we did have some new visitors and I would like to welcome them!!!  Friday we read several letters and some poems too.  Again we had some new faces.  I want to welcome you all, and thank your for joining us.  

This Thursday and Friday will be OPEN CHAT.  Bring with you those questions you might have about the Civil War and we'll see what we can do about answering them.  

You won't want to miss the 22nd & 23rd chats  when Mygenes will be presenting us a story of the "Women of the Boarder War" (KS/MO).  Join us!!!!    

PLEASE TAKE NOTE:   If you have either HOST FMLY Jayne or HOST FMLY Bill on you Buddy lists, you will need to change them to HOST RL Jayne and HOST RL WillM.   I've deleted my HOST FMLY Jayne name and Bill has done the same.  Great things are in progress for all of us!!!

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST RL Jayne ...  Thursday 11 PM ET  
HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL WillM Friday 10 PM ET in the  Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET  for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them at Keyword: Civil War Chat   On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.    

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.   

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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HOSPITAL DUTIES
by Anonymous

Fold away all your bright-tinted dresses,
  Turn the key on your jewels today,
And the wealth of your tendril-like tresses
  Braid back in a serious way;
No more delicate gloves, no more laces,
  No more trifling in boudoir or bower,
But come with your souls in your faces
  To meet the stern wants of the hour.

Look around! By the torchlight unsteady
  The dead and the dying seem one --
What! Trembling and paling already,
  Before your dear mission's begun?
These wounds are more precious than ghastly --
  Time presses her lips to each scar,
While she chants of that glory which vastly
  Transcends all the horrors of war.
  
Pause here by this bedside. How mellow
  The light showers down on that brow!
Such a brave, brawny visgage, poor fellow!
  Some homestead is missing him now!
Some wife shades her eyes in the clearing,
  Some mother sits moaning distressed,
While the loved one lies faint but unfearing,
  With the enemy's ball in his breast.
  
Here's another -- a lad -- a mere stripling,
  Picked up in the field almost dead,
With the blood through his sunny hair rippling
  From the horrible gash in his head.
They say he was first in the action;
  Gay-hearted, quick-headed, and witty:
He fought till he dropped with exhaustion
  At the gates of our fair Southern city.

Fought and fell 'neath the guns of that city,
  With a spirit transcending his years --
Lift him up in your large-hearted pity,
  And wet his pale lips with your tears.
Touch him gently; most sacred the duty
  Of dressing that poor shattered hand!
God spare him to rise in his beauty
  And battle once more for his land!

Pass on! it is useless to linger
  While others are calling your care;
There is need for your delicate finger,
  For your womanly sympathy there.
There are sick ones athirst for caressing,
  There are dying ones raving at home,
There are wounds to be bound with a blessing,
  And shrouds to make ready for some.

They have gathered about you the harvest
  Of death in its ghastliest view;
The nearest as well as the furthest
  Is there with the traitor and true.
And crowned with your beautiful patience,
  Made sunny with love at the heart,
You must balsam the wounds of the nations,
  Nor falter nor shrink from your part.

And the lips of the mother will bless you,
  And angels, sweet-visaged and pale,
And the little ones run to caress you,
  And the wives and the sisters cry hail!
But e'en if you drop down unheeded,
  What matter? God's ways are the best;
You have poured out your life where 'twas needed,
  And He will take care of the rest. 

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.

I'm going to leave this in for yet another week hoping someone else will have an idea where Dash can check. 

I received the following question from Dashmom@aol.com.  I sent it to my guru but I'm also going to put it here.   If anyone knows the answer....  PLEASE email me here at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  

Are there any lists of people who paid a substitute for the Civil War?  Dashmom's ggrandfather was supposed to have paid a sub.  Charles Carroll Hubbard, from Middletown, CT.      And now that poses a second question from me......   is there a list or a way to know who the substitues were....  or who substituted for who???  

Just ask and ye shall receive......   In addition to the answers IllinoisCW and Cathiwd sent,  SnowBeri sent the following:

I don't know if each state did this differently, but I recently read a Civil War pension where one of the interview questions was, "Did you enlist as a substitute for anyone?  If so, who?"  (I was reading pensions from men from New York, Vermont, and Indiana, and I can't recall which state had that question.) If there is no list available for the state, that would mean the researcher might have to go through pension records.  A large task.  If resources are available, I'd start with the men from the same county.

(((((Diane)))))))   Thanks so much   BTW  Tell Bear we said hello. :)

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Melman144@aol.com  asked if anyone had heard of Union Soldiers being paroled at Overton Co., TN  His ggrandfather, Sgt. James R Gross of the 11th KY Co. H, was paroled at Overton Co., TN 10-10-1853 by Colonel John M. Hughs of the 25th TN Inf, CSA

((((Melman))))   we'll  see what the "faithful" have to say about this.  

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!! 

From An Madra Rua

Seasonal produce 1860
Exerpted from a handout by Virginia Mescher on Foods in the 19th c DietFresh Seasonal Produce 

Seasonal Produce for July
Beans, 
LimaBeans, 
StringBeets
Blackberries
Cabbage
Carrots 
Cauliflower (but not Broccoli)
Cherries
Corn, 
green Cucumbers
Currants
Damsons (small black plums)
Gooseberries
Horseradish  (year round)
Lettuce
Muskmelons (cantaloupe)
Peaches
Potatoes (new, white)
Radishes
Raspberries
Rhubarb
Spinach
Squash, 
summerStrawberries
Tomatoes
Turnips
Watermelons

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From  HOST RL Dae

Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System 
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm

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From us-civil-war maillist at yahoogroups.com 

PAPERBACK BOOKS NEEDED FOR HOSPITALIZED VETS
The membership of Vietnam Vets of America Chapter 329 in Vermontville, Michigan is asking that instead of throwing away old books you send them to hospitalized veterans.
Please, please, please send your old books addressed to:
"Any Veteran"
at any VA medical facility listed at this website address:
http://members.aol.com/veterans/valentinesday/valday.htm  

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From Debby6alex via SusiCP

The Ten Costliest Battles of the Civil War
http://www.civilwarhome.com/Battles.htm  

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From Cyndislist of new websites

URL:     http://www.us-census.org/states/military/  
TITLE:     U.S. Military and Naval Forces
DESCRIPTION:     .

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URL:     http://www.us-census.org/native/  
TITLE:     Native American
DESCRIPTION:     .

Thanks to all of you who are sharing Civil War URLs with all of us!!!    PLEASE continue to send them!!!

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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill   
CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com   

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From FyrfytrBob

Genealogy Gems: News from the Fort Wayne Library No. 4, June 30,

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Microtext Source: Civil War Unit Histories
Delia Cothrun Bourne
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The Civil War is one of the most written about eras in American history. Higher literacy levels among the common people made it possible for the participants to record and analyze their experiences. These writings include regimental histories; personal reminiscences, such as diaries or letters written to families and friends; statistical accounts or rosters from the states; and histories of specific battles or campaigns. The Civil War Unit Histories, a microfiche project of University Publications of America, which makes many of these items easily accessible for researchers, is available at the Allen County Public Library.

Researchers can use Blair Hydrick's four-volume Guide to the Microfiche Edition of Civil War Unit Histories (973.74 AA1HY) or the Catalog in the Microtext Area, to locate information concerning an ancestor's regiment.  Each item identifies the regiment(s) involved and home counties of those regiments. The set also includes Adjutant Generals' Reports and other general material.

Leander Stillwater, 61st Illinois, wrote The Story of a Common Soldier of Army Life in the Civil War in 1917 for his son who had requested that his father record his experiences. Stillwater states that his narrative was based on his weekly letters to his family. He disclaims any "pretensions to being a literary man." Gilbert Sabre, 2nd Rhode Island, published Nineteen Months a Prisoner of War in 1865, just as the war was ending. The work shows a definite bias against the Southerners who held him captive. Sabre also states that he is not "striving for literary effect." Reminiscences, or Four Years in the Confederate Army was written by John Will Dyer, First Kentucky Cavalry, CSA, in 1898. Dyer felt that future generations should know more than just the great leaders. His reminiscences were meant to provide information on the common soldier and he felt it was representational for Union as well as Confederate soldiers.

The Battles and Campaigns section includes Programme: Reunion: Army of the Potomac and Army of Northern Virginia at Gettysburg, 1888, which contained histories and descriptions of that battle. Other items include Casualties in the Union Forces Operating against Richmond, October 1864; Fort Pillow Massacre: Report of the Joint Committee on the Conduct of  the War, May 6, 1864; and Photographic History of the Civil War.

For Civil War researchers, this set is not to be missed. Ask a staff member to show you this informative source.

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NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.  

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com  

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html


July 17 Richmond City Walking Tour presented by a Richmond National Battlefield Park, VA historian. 2 pm. Free. www.nps.gov/rich  or 804-226-1981. 

JULY 17 & 18, Lancaster PA, Landis Valley: A Civil War Village
Take an unusual glimpse into history when you visit a Civil War-era Pennsylvania Dutch village that has been taken over by Union Troops. Hundreds of authentically dressed civilian and military re-enactors recreate a slice of 1860s life. Several informative seminars are offered both days. Books and other merchandise of special interest to Civil War buffs will be available at The Weathervane, Landis Valley Museum Store. Admission fee. Museum members admitted free.  Saturday & Sunday  10:00AM - 5:00PM  www.landisvalleymuseum.org  

July 17-18  Living history encampment at the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg, PA. 10 am-4 pm Saturday, noon-4 pm Sunday. www.nationalcivilwarmuseum.org  or 866-258-4729. 

July 24-25  Living history weekend commemorating the anniversary of the Second Battle of Kernstown. Encampments, demonstrations and march. At the Kernstown battlefield off Route 11 south of Winchester, VA. Free. www.kernstownbattle.org   or 540-662-1824. 

July 24-25  Living history, First Battle of Manassas Anniversary activities at the Manassas National Battlefield Park, VA. Special demonstrations and tours. Park fees apply.  Details: www.nps.gov/mana   or 703-361-1339. 

JULY 31 - AUG 1, Georgetown, DE

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey.....  Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html  

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

July 15 & 16  -  OPEN CHAT

July 22 & 23  -  "Women of the Boarder War" (KS/MO)  to be presented by Mygenes/Kay

July 29 & 30  -   OPEN CHAT

Aug 5 & 6 - To be announced

Aug 12 & 13 - Our Special Songs, Letters and Poems night.  If you have something you would like us to read, send it to HOST RL WillM or HOST RL Jayne.

Aug 19 & 20 - OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night. 


Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 18 July 2004

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else.

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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This week we had open chat with some great questions and discussion.  Jayne managed to get in on the last few minutes Friday night.  She was down in Rehoboth Beach, DE and had a terrible time getting online.

You won't want to miss the 22nd & 23rd chats  when Mygenes will be presenting us a story of the "Women of the Boarder War" (KS/MO).  Join us!!!!    

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well. 

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST RL Jayne ...  Thursday 11 PM ET  
HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL WillM Friday 10 PM ET in the  Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET  for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them at Keyword: Civil War Chat   On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.  

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.   

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

Recommendations from MM3C11259,

Gray Raiders of the Sea 
by Chester G. Hearn
How Eight Confederate Warships Destroyed the Union's High Seas Commerce. 
Fascinating read 

Covered With Glory  
by Rod Gragg.
The 26th North Carolina Infantry at the Battle of Gettysburg.
Another book that you will be hard put to set down, once you start it. 

A History of the Confederate Navy  
by Raimondo Luraghi.
An in depth study of this little known area of the Civil War. A classic in every sense of the word.
Must read!

Raphael Semmes, The Philosophical Mariner
by Warren F. Spencer.
Biography

Stonewall in the Valley  
Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson's Shenandoah Valley Campaign, Spring 1862
by Robert G. Tanner.
One of the classics of Civil War history.

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------

(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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October 29, 1862
Belerver Tennessee
My Dear Eliza 

I sit down this morning to have a short chat with you.  I have received two letters from you in the last ten days.  One dated the 12 and 20 of this month and was good to hear from you and to know that you and the children were in good health and that you are better satisfied that you where.  The reason I did not rite to you sooner is on account of the wether turning so cold I could not  rite out of doors and the tents are so crowded it was imposable to rite in them.  We are out on picket guard to day and I have spread my Blanket in the sun where it is quite comfortable on.  last Satturday we had quite a snow storm and we have hevey frost now for several nights wich I think will improve out health.  I am in good health at this time with the exseption  of the Reumatism in my hip wich stiffens me up and prevents me geting about as nimble as I would like.  Our men are now engaged in making more forts and getting ready for the enemy shold they conclude to come this way.  We are now well supplied with good clothing for the winter.  We will get tents in a few days when we comfortably feel as an army can be in the field.  We are well suplied with a plenty to eat and that of a good quality so i have nothing to complain of.  Only I can not get to come home and see you and the children.  I fully expected when I left home that I would get Back this fall bur Seth Dasley has acted in bad faith tome and I am sadly disapointed.  there is no confidence to be placed in him and if I was disliked y me men as he is I should never return to the company.  For I do not believe that there is one man what wold not rejoise to know that he wold never return. All the men come from Clarke dispise him.  tomorrow our Regment will be musterd for pay and I am in hopes the pay master will soon make his apearance amonkst us and give out a few of his green Backs.  We have not been paid for four months and the money is greatly need by the men particular those that have families.  He may come next week.  I will send you money as I get paid for you must stand in need of it Badly. There is about ten thousand men at this place and I am in hopes that we may get to remain here this winter for I am tired of runing over the country.  If I can posably come home this winter I will.  it is a hard matter to get a furlowe from this Regment.  Only a few faverrite can get to go hom.  Yet I hope to have to see the end of this Rebelion.  You had better let  the children go to skool if you can.  When I receive my money I will try and send you fifty dollars wich will take you through this winter.  You must tel the children that they ought to be good and do as you tel them while i am absent from home.  I should like to see the little ones today.  My little Andrew knowes nothing about his pap.  he will be a big Boy when I get home so you can give him a kiss for me and tel him I want to see him and nurse him before he gets too large.  I will bring this to a close at it is diner.  will soon be ready and I have nothing of interest to rite.  I have plucked a few wild flowers to send you as it is all I have to send you at present.  Give my respects to all friends. so I remain your afectionate husband until death. 

J. W. Gahan 

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.

Melman144@aol.com  asked if anyone had heard of Union Soldiers being paroled at Overton Co., TN  His ggrandfather, Sgt. James R Gross of the 11th KY Co. H, was paroled at Overton Co., TN 10-10-1853 by Colonel John M. Hughs of the 25th TN Inf, CSA

((((Melman))))   we'll  see what the "faithful" have to say about this.  

From IllinoisCW in answer to above:

Regarding the paroled prisoners from Overton County, Tn.  Location did not matter as the men were all provided with parole slips and thus were able to be paroled, often, not far from their actual capture.  The less time these men were retained as prisoners, the less care and comfort they required.  It was a far far different time then than now and a man's word of honor not to serve again until "properly" exchanges was generally accepted.  If the individual does not know where the ancestor was captured, this may serve as a help in locating that place.  He would not have had to captured with many other soldiers, he may well have been captured as a forager or simply someone away from camp.  Hope this helps.

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!! 

Did you know the average height of a soldier was 5 ft. 8-1/4 inches and the average weight was 143-1/2 lbs.  

Did you know their were 6 cannon in a Union Battery and 4 cannon in a Confederate Battery.

Did you know Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson was a teacher at VMI before the war.  

Did you know there was a battle on 30 June 1862 in Virginia that had 7 names:
1.  White Oak Swamp
2.  Frayser's Farm
3.  Glendale
4.  Charles City Cross Roads
5.  Nelson's Farm
6.  Turkey Bend
7.  New Market Cross Roads

...................and there you have it.  

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From  HOST RL Dae

US Civil War Soldiers and Sailor System

Select by Soldier
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm 
Search Fort McHenry Prison Records (Confederate Soldiers)
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/fortsearch.cfm 
Search Andersonville Prison Records (Union Soldiers)
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/andSearchp.cfm  
Search for Medal of Honor Recipients
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/medals.htm  
Petersburg Cemetery
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/petersburgs.cfm  

United States Civil War Center Search
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/search.htm  

U.S. Civil War Center - the General's Burials Listing
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/projects/dbases/generals.htm  

U.S. Civil War Center - Chattanoga National Cemetery
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/projects/dbases/chatt.htm  

Civil War Rosters - All States Updated 07/20/04
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw.html 

Members of Quantrill's Guerrillas in the Civil War
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.quantril?rc=locale%7e&us=0&o_xid=0022468880&o_lid=0022468880&o_xt=21258807   

Civil War - Confederate and Union Prisoners of War - POWs - Genealogy
http://pacivilwar.com/pow/ 

USArmy Military History Institute Photograph Database
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi//PhotoDB.html  
This database is a catalog of American Civil War photographs. Usually, patrons are searching for ancestors, researching particular ACW regiments, or looking for examples of items worn or used by soldiers of the period. 

Confederate Officers Photograph Album
http://www.archives.state.al.us/conoffalb/nslist.html  

Elmira Prison Camp OnLine Library - Submitted Information - Confederate Index
http://www.archives.state.al.us/conoffalb/nslist.html  

Note from Jayne:  The following isn't Civil War but I'm putting it in anyway

FoundDog Tags - This site has been created for the purpose of returning dog tags found from Vietnam to their respective families
http://www.founddogtags.com/  

................... More next week

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Thanks to all of you who are sharing Civil War URLs with all of us!!!    PLEASE continue to send them!!!

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com   

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NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.  

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com  

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer reseach at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com  Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com   

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html


July 24-25  Living history weekend commemorating the anniversary of the Second Battle of Kernstown. Encampments, demonstrations and march. At the Kernstown battlefield off Route 11 south of Winchester, VA. Free. www.kernstownbattle.org  or 540-662-1824. 

July 24-25  Living history, First Battle of Manassas Anniversary activities at the Manassas National Battlefield Park, VA. Special demonstrations and tours. Park fees apply.  Details: www.nps.gov/mana   or 703-361-1339. 

JULY 31 - AUG 1, Georgetown, DE

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey.....  Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html  

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)

July 22 & 23  -  "Women of the Boarder War" (KS/MO)  to be presented by Mygenes/Kay

July 29 & 30  -   OPEN CHAT

Aug 5 & 6 - To be announced

Aug 12 & 13 - Our Special Songs, Letters and Poems night.  If you have something you would like us to read, send it to HOST RL WillM or HOST RL Jayne.

Aug 19 & 20 - OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  

Jayne & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm

Hear Ye ....       Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 25 July 2004

NOTE:  If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com  saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution.  On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.  

NOTE from Jayne:  We're getting more subscribers all the time, and  I'd like to welcome all the new subscribers we've had recently.  I hope you enjoy our little newsletter. 

Please be assured your email addresses are not shared with, nor sold to, anyone else.

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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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I want to apologize to those of you who visited the Civil War chat Thursday and Friday nights expecting to hear the story of Women of the Border War.  Our guest sent me an email on Sunday apologizing for not being there but she had been laid up with a bad back. Hopefully, we'll be able to re-schedule the talk again in the near future.  

I want to let you all know I have a brand new co-host. She joined us last Thursday night and is going to continue to be with us. Her name is HOST RL Magnolia.  I'm sorry to say I won't be able to be in the Thursday night chat with her.  Kristen is aware of it.  I promised her she will have plenty of help from you, the faithful.  She's going to send a "profile" which will be included in next week's newsletter.  Welcome her to the team!!     

My son, wife and three grandsons have been visiting with us this week.  Sunday I took them all (my #1 son included) to Fort Delaware.   I think we explored every inch of the fort that was open to the public and used flashlights to look in places we couldn't get to.  They had the opportunity to talk with the blacksmith, they watched soldiers of Ahl's Independent Battery, Heavy Artillery fire the huge 8" Columbiad.  You can see a picture of the Columbiad at http://www.visitthefort.com/special.html   Scroll down to the pictures of Garrison Weekend, 2002 and look at the first picture in the second row.   It's a BIG gun!!!!!!   Captain Ahl explained each step of the firing and why they did each one of them. They saw the kitchen, the laundry, the administrative offices and the officers' quarters.  They visited and talked to some of the Rebel soldiers being held prisoner there.  

There is a "train" that takes visitors from the pier into the fort and back.  As we were sitting on the train waiting to go back to the ferry, Captain Ahl boarded the car we were on.  Before going out to the Fort we visited the Store, two of my grandsons had gotten Confederate Kepis and the 3 one had a Union kepi.  Captain Ahl said he had heard that there were two Confederate who had been committing sedition.  Then he asked them if they knew what sedition meant.  (one was 10 the other 14)  They said they did not know...  so he proceded to tell them, then the Captain asked if they had been seditious.  The little one said "yes"   He told them to stand up...  everyone on the train was laughing.   When they didn't get up, he drew his sword and told them again.  They stood up!!!   He ordered them off of the car and took them onto the first car where he asked if anyone there had been seditious.  Apparently someone had and he ordered the three of them to sit together and he talked to all three.  In a short while he escorted our two "rebels" back to our train, with his sword still drawn.  I doubt they'll forget their visit to the Fort anytime soon.  What a good time we all had!!!   

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:  the "History of the American (United States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!

OUR GOAL:  to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom"  by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.  

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

JOIN HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL Magnolia ...  Thursday 11 PM ET  
HOST RL Jayne & HOST RL WillM Friday 10 PM ET in the  Ancestral Digs  Room (on AOL only)   The "program" will not necessarily be the same both nights.  Let us help you find your soldier.  Tell us their stories.  We will still have our  Songs, Letters and poems nights the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below to see what we're up to.  

JOIN HOST RL IrshRose....  Saturday Midnight ET  for help tracing your heritige to the American Civil time period.

You can visit the Genealogy Schedule by going to Keyword: Genealogy Chat   which includes our Civil War chats and you can also see them at Keyword: Civil War Chat   On the Civil War chat schedule page, you will see a link to "Civil War Libraries",  There are many files that my ol' partner GFS Jim had posted over the years.    

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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com.   

Civil War Book Review
http://www.cwbr.com/  

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--------OUR WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs, 
and Poems evenings)
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From NW Sharpless to his wife, Maria

April 19 1863

My Dear Wife I take my pin this smorning to rite hir a few lines to inform hir that I am rite well at present and hop thes few lines will find hir and the childern enjoying the sam My dear wife but it is worm hear I dont se how we ar to stand it I told hir that I thought that we ware coming north soon but I half giv out all hopes of coming before hour time is out now (ri) they half pade us for half hour time no I woush she had the money I will risk $10 Dollars in this letter and as soon as she reseves it rite rite back to me and I will try 20 next letter I half 2 twenty and a five for hir and then I will half ten for myself I wont to send hir 25 dollars rite as soon as she gits this and tel me wethur to send the rest to newcom or out to fairvill I dont now how long she is agoing to be up hom but I hope she will stay ware she can enjoy the most pleasure dear girl I wont hir to have this money as soon as I can git it to hir in safty win she rites tel me all the news I sent hir one letter to Jenervill and I rote one to NewLondon before this I half rote 4 letters that she had not got win she rote my last one good by for this tim from hir ever tru and loving husband I send hir all the love and kises I can and I would like to send myself if could I must quit riting for they ar coling on hour company now good by my dear Wife and please rite to me soon for we are not far from the rebels and we dont now wen we will be drove away but I hope they will never be able to lick us burnaside ses he will be in richmand on the holadays

N Walter Sharpless

Co G 176th Pa Rigt

Fosters Brigade

Pecks Division

Suffolk Va

I rite this direction in here for fer the did not git my last letter

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THE HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??  
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if 
some of our readers can help you.  If you get an answer to your
queston, please let us know.

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DID YOU KNOW?
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If you have something we could use here, PLEASE send it along.   Thanks!!!! 

Did you know that in the Civil War, General Stonewall Jackson walked around with his right hand in the air to balance the blood flow in his body? Because he was right-handed, he thought that his right hand was getting more blood than his left, and so by raising his hand, he'd allow the excess blood to run into his left hand. He also never ate food that tasted good, because he assumed that anything that tasted good was completely unhealthy.

Source:  Strange and interesting facts about the Civil War by Sarah Emanuel and others....    http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3622/strange.html  

...................and there you have it.  

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Weekly Web Sites we've received 
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com 

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From  HOST RL Dae

Tennessee Confederate Pension Applications:  Soldier and Widows
http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/pension.htm  

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From Howie Doohan

Civil War Discussion Forums
http://www.cwoodcock.com/forum.shtml  

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From DaePowell

The True Face of Sue Mundy
http://www.potterflats.com/suemundy.html  

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From Cyndi's list of new websites

URL:     http://battleofraymond.org 
TITLE:     Battle of Raymond, Miss. May 12, 1863
DESCRIPTION:     The Official site for the Battle of Raymond, Mississippi, 
May 12, 1863. Listing of soldiers that fought, wounded and killed. 
Confederate Cemetery listing. Diaries and accounts.

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URL:     http://battleofchampionhill.org 
TITLE:     Battle of Champion Hill, Miss, May 16, 1863
DESCRIPTION:     Official site of the Battle of Champion Hill (Baker's 
Creek), Miss, May 16, 1863. Listing of soldiers, killed, Union and 
Confederate. Diaries, accounts, and complete historical source. Campaign 
Trail tours guide.

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URL:     http://battleofraymond.org/soldiers.htm 
TITLE:     Battle of Raymond, Miss, May 12, 1863, Soldiers Who Fought
DESCRIPTION:     A listing of the soldiers who fought in the Battle of 
Raymond, Miss, May 12, 1863.

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URL:     http://battleofraymond.org/cemetry.htm 
TITLE:     Confederate Cemetry, Raymond, Mississippi
DESCRIPTION:     A complete listing of the soldiers buried in the Raymond, 
Mississippi Confederate Cemetery. A complete listing of all soldiers, 
killed and wounded in the Battle of Raymond, Mississippi, May 12, 1863.

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URL:     http://battleofchampionhill.org/killed.htm 
TITLE:     Battle of Champion Hill (Baker's Creek), Miss, Soldiers Killed
DESCRIPTION:     A nearly complete listing of soldiers killed, Union and 
Confederate, by unit, at the Battle of Champion Hill (Baker's Creek), 
Mississippi, May 16, 1863.

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From Maryd0318

United Daughters ofthe Confederach Web Site
http://www.hqudc.org/  

Civil War Gooks - Broadfoot Publishing Co., Civil War Books, References, CDs, Biographies, Regimentals, Memoir
http://www.broadfootpublishing.com/ 


Thanks to all of you who are sharing Civil War URLs with all of us!!!    PLEASE continue to send them!!!

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FROM OUR READERS
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If your ancestor has or you have a story to tell, please send it to us.  
     HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Bill and HOSt RL Magnolia at CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com   

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NOTE:   If anyone has some great Civil War Music you'd like to recommend, please send it to us.

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...  MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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If you have a resource from which you would be willing to do look-ups for folks, please let us know and we'll add it here

UBucket@aol.com has offered to do free Civil War research from veterans from Wisconsin.  He is the author of "Civil War Veterans of Winnebago County, Wisconsin"

eharding2@cox.net has offered to do lookups for folks with ancestors from the Confederacy, focusing mainly on North Carolina, but has other sources also.   

GoldHobo@aol.com has told us if anyone wants info the the 85th NY Inf. Regt. (Plymouth Pilgrims) you may email her.  She has a book about them.    Her one request is that you put 85th Regt. in the subject line so she doesn't delete it by mistake

JLawson656@aol.com has access to Pension Records for Civil War Soldiers in Louisiana.  If you need help, send JL an email. 

GandMS@aol.com  Has a book  Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street ---  1900

The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks, There are many pictures in the book.  If you think your ancestor was a member of Hamilton Post No. 182  Please email GandMS@aol.com   

MOM611@aol.com said she has a book on the men of the 9th OHIO if anyone needs information.

Nanatnt2@aol.com has a book on the 85th NY Infantry which spent most of their time in Andersonville.

OhioSoldiers@aol.com Has a book with the Rosters of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.

Bitsobluengray@aol.com has Delaware Civil War Union Rosters from two different sources and a book "They Died at Fort Delaware"

If anyone is doing Illinois Civil War research, you may email IllinoisCW@aol.com   Tell him HOST RL Jayne sent you.  He will give it priority and see what he can find for you. 

If YOU have a Civil War Ancestor, Kevin/frye@gnat.net  does Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.  Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states. There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there.  Kevin's focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides, as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today.. He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html  

If YOU have a question regarding Confederate researching, visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com   Tell him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside.  Steve@dixieresearch.com 

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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to CWWeeklyFireside@aol.com and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.

You might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html 


JULY 31 - AUG 1, Georgetown, DE

September 3 - 5, 2004 New Jersey.....  Battle of Cedar Bridge, Lake Manahawkin, NJ     Last Battle of the American War of Independence
http://www.telecottage.com/staffordhist/cedarbridge.html  


Aug 3, 2004, Harrison's Landing, VA

Living history, "General McClellan's 1862 Civil War Headquarters at Harrison's Landing," special tour at Berkeley Plantation recreates the Union army's James River encampment following the Seven Days Battles. Tour includes plantation house. Located just off Route 10 between Richmond and Williamsburg. 9 am-11 am. Fee charged. Reservations needed. 888-466-6018.    

Aug 7, 2004  Frederick, MD

Living history, "Camp Life of Union Soldiers," at the National Museum of Civil War Medicine in Frederick. 11 am-3 pm. Free with admission. 301-695-1864 or www.civilwarmed.org  
   
Aug 7 & 8, 2004, Gettysburg, PA

Living history encampment and demonstrations by a Virginia unit at Pitzer Woods and New York soldiers at the    Pennsylvania Memorial in the Gettysburg National Military Park. www.nps.gov/gett   or 717-334-1124 extension 422.    
   
Aug 7 & 8, 2004, Hopewell, VA

Living history weekend at City Point in Hopewell, part of the Petersburg National Battlefield and Grant's headquarters during the siege. Demonstrations, ranger programs and more. Free. 804-732-6092 or www.nps.gov/pete

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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:   
Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral Digs Room 
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs Room
with hosts HOST RL Jayne, HOST RL Magnolia, HOST RL WillM and their many faithful friends :)


July 29 & 30  -   OPEN CHAT

Aug 5 & 6 - to be announced...   

Aug 12 & 13 - Our Special Songs, Letters and Poems night.  If you have something you would like us to read, send it to HOST RL WillM or HOST RL Jayne.

Aug 19 & 20 - OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.  

Jayne, Kristin & Will
Civil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/weekly_fireside_newsletter_archive.htm