January 2004 Weekly Firesides
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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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We hope you've had a great holiday and we both want to wish you a Very Happy New Year... We hope you'll find those soldiers you're looking for. Join us Thursday nights and Friday nights and see if we can help you. This Thursday and Friday are our special Songs, letters and poems nights. If you have something you'd like to share, you may "read" it yourself or you can send it to HOST FMLY Bill or HOST FMLY Jayne.
Be sure to check out the Members helping Members section of the
newsletter and also the Help Desk. Maybe you can help someone or maybe you
have a question of your own you need help with, just send the info to
[email protected] and we'll be sure to get your question in.
We're looking for reviews of the Civil War Books you've read and if you have any
Civil War URL's you would like to share with the other readers, please send them
to [email protected]
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS:
the "History of the American (United
States) Civil War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online"
environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this
"Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know
it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday
11 PM ET AND
Friday 10 PM ET
in the Ancestral
Digs
Room We will have the same schedule for each night, so if you
miss the stories or songs letters and poems on Thurs. night, you can catch then
on FRIDAY night!!
Also
on Thursday 8-9PM ET: Trace Your Civil War Ancestors in Ancestral
Digs.
Join
HOST FMLY Wolfrd and HOST FMLY Heathr to discuss ancestral searches
from the Civil War period
You can visit the other Genealogy chats by going to KEYWORD: Parenting
Chats > scroll down to Genealogy, Genealogy 101 or Genealogy, Mugs & Hugs
and click. Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message
boards at Genealogy
Community >
Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times (scroll down to War
Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If you have read a great Civil War book you think others should
read, I invite all of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here
in the Weekly Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to
[email protected].
http://www.roberteleecwrt.org/reviews.html
Check
out some book reviews at the above website.
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--------OUR
WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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AN ODE TO FORGOTTEN MEN
by Frank Benway
They rushed to enlist
To fight their War
But some with great agony
Were assigned the Medical Corps
No Valiant fights
No Gallant charges
But Blood and Gore aplenty
Surgeons assistant was avoided
But most were Volunteers
Someday doctors they would be
As the Battle began they prepared
For the carnage soon to come
Doors and boards were the stretchers
Stomach wounds were wrapped
Then left, there was no help for them
The screams began as arms and legs
Were sawed and cut away
Quickly thrown outside
The pile grew, as they sloshed in blood
A sinking odor every where
There was no wards nor hospital tents
They used what was at hand
For medicine, just Morphine or Laudenum
They dressed the festered wounds
Gangrene was their bain
Those green pussy wounds
Now came the women to the fore
To ease the woundeds pain
The male nurses were relieved
To join the fighting ranks
The Surgeons assistance still was male
Great strength was needed there
They went unsung for many years
But not by the men they saved
This simple Ode is meant to Thank
Those men of long ago
Ben
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Note from Jayne: For those of you who don't remember Frank Benway, Ben as everyone called him, he and his wife, Flo, both use to attend the Civil War History chats. He loved writing poems and shared many of them with us. He passed away a couple of years ago and is still missed by us all.
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DID YOU KNOW?
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He was relieved of command after the deadly Crater explosion at
Petersburg. After the war he served as governor of Rhode Island from
1866-1869 and then U.S. Senator from 1875-1881. Who is he?
For the answer, scroll down to just above "The Town Crier"
.............and there you have it
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going to leave both of the queries for another week. * * * * *
This was received from Shirley, Me
in [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: [email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post,
No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years
1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W.
Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
THE
HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.
Folks, this is YOUR place to ask questions...
please feel free to use it... send them to
[email protected]
I received the following from [email protected]
Hello friends: Does anyone here know anything about a Pre-Civil War Regiment (2nd
Missouri Regiment Cavalry Volunteers)? My relative was in this regiment
from 1858-1860. He then quit and moved to Illinois were he later join
another unit after the war started. Was the 2nd Missouri a Rebel unit? Thanks
for any history and help with my mystery.
I'm compiling the biography of Captain Sally L. Tompkins and am interested in
locating any and all information about her, her brothers &sisters, and other
family members. My FamilyTree chart on the families is about 5 feet long.
I have queried the Library of Virginia, Museum of the Confederacy, university
library archives, etc. Some places may be tired of my e-mails since I have
queried them so many times. I have found many interesting items by or
about Sally. Recently received a copy of a letter written in 1837 by her
mother. She had not been to visit a family member because the children had
measles. The other day received 3 letter written by Sally and am in the
process of reading them. They are negatives (black background with white
writing) and therefore difficult to read. I'll get it done though.
If anyone has anything pertaining to Captain Sally and is willing to share with
me, they can contact me at my address or by e-mail address ([email protected])
Weekly Web Sites we've received -
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/january2004.htm
Reunion
An unusual "incident" of the Civil War involving family
members fighting on opposite sides.
This came thru one of the email lists I belong to.
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2004/012004/01042004/1204749
"Fighting for piece of History" Area battlefields brace for
encroaching growth and development.
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From: [email protected]
Confederate Pension Records - NARA
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/confederate_pension_records
Civil
War Records at NARA
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/civil_war_records.html
How
to order Confederate Pension Records
http://www.searchforancestors.com/genhelp/military/confederate.html
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From: [email protected]
Click
here: The Civil War Message Board Portal
http://www.history-sites.com/
The
Illinois in the Civil War Message Board - Message Index
http://history-sites.net/cgi-bin/boards/ilcwmb/
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From: An Madra Rua
http://www.cr.nps.gov/seac/Shiloh-2001/shiloh-2001.htm
SEAC
archeologists in the field!
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From:
Cyndislist of new websites
URL: http://pacivilwar.com/bios/
TITLE:
Pennsylvania Volunteers of the Civil War - Biographies
DESCRIPTION: Each Pennsylvania soldier biography
contains regiment,
battles fought, injuries and POW details, if any, as well as birthplace,
birthdate, parents, spouse, children, residence and occupation before and
after the War.
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URL: http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation
TITLE:
Robert E. Lee Historical Site
DESCRIPTION: This site contains extensive Robert E. Lee
research
material including photos, paintings, Lee's letters to his family and other
essential Lee material.
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URL: http://www.sonofthesouth.net
TITLE:
Civil War Art Collector
DESCRIPTION: This site has extensive, original
illustrations from the
Civil War, as they appeared in the pages of Harper's Weekly. Extensive
Slavery material is included.
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From:
[email protected] The following was in one of the maillists she
belongs to [email protected]:
As posted to the list by Gene Stackhouse:
The
Grand Army of the Republic Museum and Library, 4278 Griscom St., Philadelphia,
PA 19124-3954 (215-289-6484, http://www.garmuslib.org ) has 720 original
applications for membership for the Ellis Post #6 of the GAR, Germantown,
Philadelphia, PA, dating from 1869 to 1940.
I have recently transcribed these applications. Copies of the transcriptions are
available from me, from the GAR Museum and Library, and from the Germantown
Historical Society, 5501 Germantown Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19144,
(215-844-0514),
http://www.germantownhistory.org
I
will be posting the names from these applications, a few at a time, over the
next few weeks. Anyone interested in receiving copies of any of these
transcriptions can contact me at [email protected]
or may contact
either of the above two institutions.
A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the
[email protected] has a book on the
85th NY
Infantry
which spent most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters
of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected]
has
Delaware
Civil War Union Rosters
from two different sources and a book "They
Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois
Civil War research, you
may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil
War Ancestor,
Kevin/[email protected]
does Volunteer reseach
at
Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate
researching,
visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com
Tell
him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
Answer to Did you know.... Ambrose Everett Burnside
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event,
please
send it to [email protected]
and we will be glad to include it here in
our calendar.
January
12-13 Reconstruction:
The Second Civil War airing on PBS's American Experience.
This two-part documentary that tells the little-known story of the post-Civil
War years will air on public
television stations nationwide;
check local listings! For press inquiries only, contact Daphne B. Noyes at
617-300-5344. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Time:
January 17 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. Witness Civil
War Encampment
at the Mansfield State Historic Site in Mansfield,
LA.
Authentically uniformed volunteers will portray a typical Civil War encampment
in the field. Learn about the daily life of a Civil War soldier including diet,
uniforms, equipment and weapons used. For more information, call 1-888-677-6267
toll free or 318-872-1474 locally.
January 17 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. Come to enjoy Living
History Day at Fort DeRussy
at the Fort Derussy State Historic Site in Marksville,
LA.
The Marksville State Historic Site staff invites visitors to Fort DeRussy,
off La. Hwys. 1 and 1192, north of Marksville, to observe reenactors
demonstrating various aspects of Civil War life. Activities will include cannon
firing demonstrations, small arms displays, tours of Fort DeRussy and a game of
Civil War baseball. For more information, call 1-888-253-8954 toll free or
318-253-8954 locally.
January
17-18 “Defending
the Bay,” 20th Annual “Surrender of Fort Gaines,” Dauphin Island, AL.
9 a.m. re-creation of 1861 surrender of Federals to Alabama Volunteer Corps,
living history activities, guided candlelight tour 6:30 p.m. Hosted by Sloppy
Beagle Mess.
For
more information, contact:
Fort Gaines Historic Site, 51 Bienville Blvd., Dauphin Island, AL 36528, (251)
861-6992; www.dauphinisland.org
January 24 11 AM - 2 PM Come to learn more about Civil
War Surgery and Medicine
at the Mansfield State Historic Site in Mansfield,
LA.
A site historian will explain the medical treatment of soldiers during the Civil
War. A reproduction amputation field kit will be on display. For more
information, call 1-888-677-6267 toll free or 318-872-1474 locally.
January
31 - Feb 1 Florida,
Mt. Dora Battle
of Townsend’s Plantation & Civil War Festival, Renninger’s Antique
Center, Mt. Dora, 10-5. Battles Saturday at 3, Sunday at 2. Living history
exhibits, ladies’ tea, dress ball with 97th Regimental String Band, chapel
service, folk music, pre-battle concerts. All branches welcome, bounty for
cavalry & artillery, cash prizes. Sutlers must pre-register. Admission $5,
children under 12 $2. Sponsored by the Offices of Clay Townsend Esq.
For
more information, contact:
Stacy or Clay, (407) 422-2956, [email protected].
Reenactors:
Mike Hardy, 37th Alabama, (407) 880-4575, [email protected].
Sutlers:
Dennis Grenier, (407) 240-6754
February
7 11 AM - 3 PM Frederick,
MD - Living History
Confederate
Surgeon presentation by Jason Grabill, 11-3, National Museum of Civil War
Medicine, Frederick. Demonstration, discussion of Civil War era surgical
practices, techniques, challenges.
For
more information, contact:
(301) 695-1864
February
7 Elizabeth
City, North Carolina - Living History
Civil
War Naval Living History, Museum of the Albemarle, Elizabeth City. Encampment,
demonstrations, lectures & displays including artillery, shipbuilding,
navigation, medical.
For
more information, contact:
Museum of the Albemarle, (252) 335-1453, [email protected]
February
7
Philadelphia,
PA Lincoln Day Annual
Lincoln Day Parade and Honor Ceremony, Union League of Philadelphia.
Participants meet by 11 a.m. in General Meade Room. Free luncheon, honor
ceremony, parade through the city to Lincoln Monument, reception. No charge.
Bring wreaths, music, colors. Military, civilians welcome.
For
more information, contact:
registration, (215) 587-5592, (215) 204-5452, [email protected],
[email protected]
February
13 - 15 8 am - 4 pm Olustee
Battle Historic State Park near Lake City, FL
140th
Anniversary Battle of Olustee Reenactment at Olustee Battle Historic State Park
near Lake City. 8-4 daily. Battles Saturday & Sunday, overnight cavalry
campaign. Full-scale artillery, infantry, cavalry. Recruiting for 8th & 35th
USCT, 54th Massachusetts. Ladies’ tea, civilian activities, medical
demonstration, storytelling, Friday Education Day, period music, church
services, evening ball for reenactors. No reenactor fee.
For
more information, contact:
(386) 397-7009 or (386) 758-0400, [email protected];
http://extlab7.entnem.ufl.edu/Olustee/
February
13 - 15 Roanoke
Island Festival Park, Manteo, NC
4th
annual living history weekend commemorating 142nd anniversary of the Battle of
Roanoke Island at Roanoke Island Festival Park in Manteo. After February 1862
victory the Union established camps and a freedmen’s colony. Saturday 10-5,
Sunday 11-3. Soldiers, sailors, artillery demonstrations, period crafts,
presentations, lectures, children’s activities. Admission free for park
ticketholders, $5 donation per family suggested for others.
For
more information, contact:
(252) 475-1500.
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
with
hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
January 8 & 9, 2004 - The Special Songs, letters and poems night.
If you have any one of the three things you'd like to share with the room, feel
free to send them to HOST FMLY [email protected] or HOST FMLY [email protected]
January 15 & 16, 2004 - OPEN CHAT with some Civil War Trivia
questions added
January 22 & 23, 2004 - Vicksburg and Chattanooga by James L. Walker
January 29 & 30, 2004 - OPEN CHAT with more Civil War Trivia :D
We'll
See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
HAPPY
HOLIDAYS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOODNIGHT
Bill and Jayne :-)
Hear
Ye .... Hear Ye
"The
Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 11 January 2004
NOTE: If you do not wish to receive the Weekly Fireside, PLEASE send email to [email protected] saying "UNSUBSCRIBE" and they will remove you from the distribution. On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to receive the newsletter, please have them send Jayne or Bill email with subscribe in the subject line.
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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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This week in the American Civil War History Chats we will have OPEN CHAT... and
there might just be a few trivia questions thrown in. :)
I talked to former HOST GFS Jim and he is doing well. There was sadness for the
Walker family during the holidays as Jim's 91 year old mother suffered a stroke
and passed away. Jim is back working hard as usual and he promises me he
will try to stop in to see us.
Be
sure to check out the Members helping Members section of the newsletter and also
the Help Desk. Maybe you can help someone or maybe you have a question of
your own you need help with, just send the info to [email protected] and
we'll be sure to get your question in.
We're looking for reviews of the Civil War Books you've read and
if you have any Civil War URL's you would like to share with the other
readers, please send them to [email protected]
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR
FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil
War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
I
think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR
PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental
and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History,
with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday
11 PM ET AND
Friday 10 PM ET
in the Ancestral
Digs
Room The "program" will not necessarily be the same
both nights. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights
the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below
to see what we're up to.
Also
on Thursday 8-9PM ET: Trace Your Civil War Ancestors in Ancestral
Digs.
Join
HOST FMLY Wolfrd and HOST FMLY Heathr to discuss ancestral searches
from the Civil War period
You can visit the other Genealogy chats by going to KEYWORD: Parenting
Chats > scroll down to Genealogy, Genealogy 101 or Genealogy and click.
Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy
Community >
Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times (scroll down to War
Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If
you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all
of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly
Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected]
http://www.roberteleecwrt.org/reviews.html
Check
out some book reviews at the above website.
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--------OUR
WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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This poem came from someone in
the TreeHouse a while back, her
grandmother had copied it out of a
Philadelphia paper. It was believed to
have been written around 1864
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DON'T TELL ME THE NEWS
by unknown
.
Don't tell me the news!
The sad news any more.
Falling from lips like a knell;
It is the very same story o're and o're;
How they fought, and bled, and fell--
How our brothers fought, till the death angel came.
And ended the bloody strife
How our brothers fell, breathing low a loved ones name
Or a struggling prayer for life.
How they moaned and died on the cold, cold sod
Without one token of love,
Not even a drop of cold water--O God!
And the rain-clouds just above.
A letter! thank god, he is spared still to me
But- look again - what is this?
The writing is strange - he was hurired
No, no, this never was his,
Filled! how we start! our hearts stand still in their place
Ah! - twas a ball struck us there;
We grow faint - try to pray, but a white dead face
Comes betwee God and our prayer.
Killed! shot through the heart! yes, tis his heart
They shot through. these arms will fold
His form to this heart nevermore. O the smell
How dark it has grown, and cold -
So cold and dark! the world is so cold and dark
A dark, cold world, at the best.
My heart, like a lone dove lost from the ark
Can find for itself no rest -
Can find no rest, no warmth, no love any more
O darling come back again,
Come and take me home to the beautiful shore
Beyond this sorrow and pain.
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DID YOU KNOW?
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What distinction did the 69th North Carolina
(C.S.A.) have?
For the answer, scroll down to just above "The Town Crier"
.............and there you have it
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THE
HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.
Folks, this is YOUR place to ask questions...
please feel free to use it... send them to
[email protected]
If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.
This was received from Gay
[email protected]
My
GT GF's name was Henry F ( Frelinguysen ) Woodmansee, born 2 Aug 1844,
Exeter, RI, died 9 Jan 1930 Wyoming, RI, married Lavina James 2 Oct 1867.
He initially served under a William H Hamners Company A 3rd Regmt RI Artillery.
discharged 4 Aug 1865. He enlisted 24 March 1864. According to his Military
Records, it shows him mustering in, on 11 April 1862. On April 10 1864 his
records show him in Morris Island , SC serving as a Nurse for the Battalion and
Regmt Hospital. His Battles included, Fort Sumpter, Seccessionville,Hilton Head, SC,
Battery A, Shermans Expedition Corp . Under an Article, " A Compendium of
the War of the Rebellion " by Frederick Dyer Pg's 1630, 234, 237,
239,
His duties following the war, included, House of Representatives 1906-1909, from
1919-1922 Postmaster of Wyoming, RI, Town Councilman of Richmond, RI. He was one
of 3 last members of the Lincoln Post Grand Army of the Replublic, Hope Valley,
RI. I only wish I could have met our fathers, GF
If anyone might have any further information, it will be appreciated. I
hope I didn't give you to much here and thank you.
Gay
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This was received from Jean , [email protected]
Look
for information on SAMUEL CALDWELL, AMOS P. CALDWELL, half Brothers who served
under CAPTAIN HENRY DICKERSON CALDWELL, Company L, 5th Calvary Unit, Illinois,
entered at Effingham, Illinois.
Anything you can find on them, I would appreciate it a lot!
Jean... we'll put these in here this week and see if anyone can
help out. I might tell you though that [email protected] is our resident
"Illinois expert" You might want to drop him a line.
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I received the following from [email protected]
If you can help, please do so. You can send your reply to [email protected],
and if you would copy us on it so we can put the answer here in the newsletter.
Hello friends: Does anyone here know anything about a Pre-Civil War Regiment (2nd
Missouri Regiment Cavalry Volunteers)? My relative was in this regiment
from 1858-1860. He then quit and moved to Illinois were he later join
another unit after the war started. Was the 2nd Missouri a Rebel unit? Thanks
for any history and help with my mystery.
Phreyor.... Here's an answer from our ol' friend Jimmy Walker..
The
two Federal regiments indicated don't seem to fit the dates being mentioned, but
they were the only "2nd" Missouri Cav Regiments formed for the Union.
One of my ancestors was in "Merrill's Horse" as was recruited in
Macon, Missouri. I don't think any of the Confederate Cav Regiments (and
there was a 2nd Confederate Missouri Cav Reg) were organized any sooner.
(Will have to check Sifikas Confederate HIstories) There may have been some
state militia organized earlier because of all the travail going on in Missouri
before the Civil War actually started and Lincoln called for troops. That
will take a little more digging on Missouri State history.
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This was received from Shirley, Me
in [email protected]
If you can help, please do!!!
I'm compiling the biography of Captain Sally L. Tompkins and am interested in
locating any and all information about her, her brothers &sisters, and other
family members.
If anyone has anything pertaining to Captain Sally L. Tompkins and is willing to
share with me, they can contact me at my address or by e-mail address ([email protected]).
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Weekly Web Sites we've received -
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]
From: [email protected]
"Who
Was Robert E. Lee"
submitted by Calvin Johnson
http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/who_was_robert_e_lee.htm
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From:
Cyndislist of new websites
URL:
http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/4025.asp?rc=locale%7E&us=0
TITLE: Getting the Most Out of the Civil War Pension
Index, Part I
DESCRIPTION: .
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URL: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/4056.asp
TITLE: Getting the Most Out of the Civil War Pension
Index, Part II
DESCRIPTION: .
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URL: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/4005.asp
TITLE: Getting the Most Out of the Civil War Pension
Index, Part III
DESCRIPTION: .
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URL: http://pacivilwar.com/bios/
TITLE: Pennsylvania Volunteers of the Civil War -
Biographies
DESCRIPTION: Each Pennsylvania soldier biography
contains regiment,
battles fought, injuries and POW details, if any, as well as birthplace,
birthdate, parents, spouse, children, residence, and occupation before and
after the War.
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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[email protected] Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post,
No 182, Department of New York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years
1184 to 1900, Compiled and Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W.
Smith, New York, Bartram Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th
OHIO
if anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the
85th NY
Infantry
which spent most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters
of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected]
has
Delaware
Civil War Union Rosters
from two different sources and a book "They
Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois
Civil War research, you
may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil
War Ancestor,
Kevin/[email protected]
does Volunteer reseach
at
Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate
researching,
visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com
Tell
him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
Answer to Did you know.... Two companies of Cherokee
Indians
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event,
please
send it to [email protected]
and we will be glad to include it here in
our calendar.
January 17 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. Witness Civil
War Encampment
at the Mansfield State Historic Site in Mansfield,
LA.
Authentically uniformed volunteers will portray a typical Civil War encampment
in the field. Learn about the daily life of a Civil War soldier including diet,
uniforms, equipment and weapons used. For more information, call 1-888-677-6267
toll free or 318-872-1474 locally.
January 17 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. Come to enjoy Living
History Day at Fort DeRussy
at the Fort Derussy State Historic Site in Marksville,
LA.
The Marksville State Historic Site staff invites visitors to Fort DeRussy,
off La. Hwys. 1 and 1192, north of Marksville, to observe reenactors
demonstrating various aspects of Civil War life. Activities will include cannon
firing demonstrations, small arms displays, tours of Fort DeRussy and a game of
Civil War baseball. For more information, call 1-888-253-8954 toll free or
318-253-8954 locally.
January
17-18 “Defending
the Bay,” 20th Annual “Surrender of Fort Gaines,” Dauphin Island, AL.
9 a.m. re-creation of 1861 surrender of Federals to Alabama Volunteer Corps,
living history activities, guided candlelight tour 6:30 p.m. Hosted by Sloppy
Beagle Mess.
For
more information, contact:
Fort Gaines Historic Site, 51 Bienville Blvd., Dauphin Island, AL 36528, (251)
861-6992; www.dauphinisland.org
January 24 11 AM - 2 PM Come to learn more about Civil
War Surgery and Medicine
at the Mansfield State Historic Site in Mansfield,
LA.
A site historian will explain the medical treatment of soldiers during the Civil
War. A reproduction amputation field kit will be on display. For more
information, call 1-888-677-6267 toll free or 318-872-1474 locally.
January
31 - Feb 1 Florida,
Mt. Dora Battle
of Townsend’s Plantation & Civil War Festival, Renninger’s Antique
Center, Mt. Dora, 10-5. Battles Saturday at 3, Sunday at 2. Living history
exhibits, ladies’ tea, dress ball with 97th Regimental String Band, chapel
service, folk music, pre-battle concerts. All branches welcome, bounty for
cavalry & artillery, cash prizes. Sutlers must pre-register. Admission $5,
children under 12 $2. Sponsored by the Offices of Clay Townsend Esq.
For
more information, contact:
Stacy or Clay, (407) 422-2956, [email protected].
Reenactors:
Mike Hardy, 37th Alabama, (407) 880-4575, [email protected].
Sutlers:
Dennis Grenier, (407) 240-6754
February
7 11 AM - 3 PM Frederick,
MD - Living History
Confederate
Surgeon presentation by Jason Grabill, 11-3, National Museum of Civil War
Medicine, Frederick. Demonstration, discussion of Civil War era surgical
practices, techniques, challenges.
For
more information, contact:
(301) 695-1864
February
7 Elizabeth
City, North Carolina - Living History
Civil
War Naval Living History, Museum of the Albemarle, Elizabeth City. Encampment,
demonstrations, lectures & displays including artillery, shipbuilding,
navigation, medical.
For
more information, contact:
Museum of the Albemarle, (252) 335-1453, [email protected]
February
7
Philadelphia,
PA Lincoln Day Annual
Lincoln Day Parade and Honor Ceremony, Union League of Philadelphia.
Participants meet by 11 a.m. in General Meade Room. Free luncheon, honor
ceremony, parade through the city to Lincoln Monument, reception. No charge.
Bring wreaths, music, colors. Military, civilians welcome.
For
more information, contact:
registration, (215) 587-5592, (215) 204-5452, [email protected],
[email protected]
February
13 - 15 8 am - 4 pm Olustee
Battle Historic State Park near Lake City, FL
140th
Anniversary Battle of Olustee Reenactment at Olustee Battle Historic State Park
near Lake City. 8-4 daily. Battles Saturday & Sunday, overnight cavalry
campaign. Full-scale artillery, infantry, cavalry. Recruiting for 8th & 35th
USCT, 54th Massachusetts. Ladies’ tea, civilian activities, medical
demonstration, storytelling, Friday Education Day, period music, church
services, evening ball for reenactors. No reenactor fee.
For
more information, contact:
(386) 397-7009 or (386) 758-0400, [email protected];
http://extlab7.entnem.ufl.edu/Olustee/
February
13 - 15 Roanoke
Island Festival Park, Manteo, NC
4th
annual living history weekend commemorating 142nd anniversary of the Battle of
Roanoke Island at Roanoke Island Festival Park in Manteo. After February 1862
victory the Union established camps and a freedmen’s colony. Saturday 10-5,
Sunday 11-3. Soldiers, sailors, artillery demonstrations, period crafts,
presentations, lectures, children’s activities. Admission free for park
ticketholders, $5 donation per family suggested for others.
For
more information, contact:
(252) 475-1500.
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every
Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
with
hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
January 8 & 9, 2004 - The Special Songs, letters and poems nights.
If you have any one of the three things you'd like to share with the room, feel
free to send them to HOST FMLY [email protected] or HOST FMLY [email protected]
January 15 & 16, 2004 - OPEN CHAT with some Civil War Trivia
questions added
January 22, 2004 - Vicksburg and Chattanooga by James L. Walker
January 23, 2004 - Vicksburg and Chattanooga if enough interested...
January 29 & 30, 2004 - OPEN CHAT with more Civil War Trivia :D
We'll
See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
Bill and Jayne :-)
Hear
Ye .... Hear Ye
"The
Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 18 January 2004
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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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This
week in the American Civil War History Chats we have scheduled a story about
Vicksburg and Chattanooga which has been done in the past by our ol' friend Jim
Walker. However........ I have been summoned for a
Capital Murder Trial jury and won't know till Wed whether I'm chosen to serve.
If I am chosen, I'm going to have to go to bed early so probably won't be able
to host the Thursday night room. I'm going to make Thursday night an OPEN
CHAT and then Friday we'll do the Vicksburg and Chattanooga story.
Bill has been suffering with a terrible case of shingles, so I don't know if
he'll be in the room Friday night or not. I'll no doubt be able to
be in the Friday night chat.
Be sure to check out the Members helping Members section of the newsletter and
also the Help Desk. Maybe you can help someone or maybe you have a
question of your own you need help with, just send the info to [email protected]
and we'll be sure to get your question in.
We're still looking for reviews of the Civil War Books you've read
and if you have any Civil War URL's you would like to share with the
other readers, please send them to [email protected]
I've got a special project going on for the Bits of Blue and Gray website.
I'm going to put back issues of the Weekly Fireside newsletter on the site.
I need to get more of them programmed before I upload them. I'll let
you know here when I've added them. I think you'll enjoy them.
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OUR
FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil
War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I
think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR
PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental
and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History,
with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday
11 PM ET AND
Friday 10 PM ET
in the Ancestral
Digs
Room The "program" will not necessarily be the same
both nights. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights
the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below
to see what we're up to.
Also
on Thursday 8-9PM ET: Trace Your Civil War Ancestors in Ancestral
Digs.
Join
HOST FMLY Wolfrd and HOST FMLY Heathr to discuss ancestral searches
from the Civil War period
You can visit the other Genealogy chats by going to KEYWORD: Parenting
Chats > scroll down to Genealogy, Genealogy 101 or Genealogy and click.
Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy
Community >
Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times (scroll down to War
Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If
you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all
of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly
Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].
http://www.roberteleecwrt.org/reviews.html
Check
out some book reviews at the above website.
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--------OUR
WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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This was sent to us way back in August 1998 by Ike and Nancy Watrous, I'm sure they won't mind if I share this once again.
ROLL-CALL
by Nathaniel Graham Shepherd
The
spirit of Shepherd's somber poem, "Roll Call" lives in images of the
burial parties of countless brigades, but is especially reflected in the Old
Vermont Brigade. Many occasions arose in the Old Vermont Brigade for forming
burial parties; for these soldiers belonged to the brigade that suffered the
greatest loss of life of any one brigade during th war. 1,172 of its men were
either killed in battle or died of wounds. The same five regiments that
lay in Camp Griffin, near Washington, D.C., in 1861 marched together in the
Grand Review on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington in 1865. When their term
of enlistment expired in 1864, they had all re-enlisted and preserved the
existence of the brigade. It was famous also for being composed entirely
of troops from one State. It contained the Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth and
Sixth Vermont Infantry, and later the First Vermont Heavy Artillery. It
was in this respect conspicuous in the Union Army, which did not adopt the
Confederate policy of grouping regiments from the same State in brigades.
The gallant record of the Vermont Brigade was nowhere more conspicuous than in
the Wilderness Campaign. The first five regiments lost in the battle of
the Wilderness, May 5-6, 1864: 195 killed, 1,017 wounded, and 57 missing, making
a total of 1, 269. Within a week its loss had amounted to 58 percent of
the number engaged. The words of the poet are therefore no merely fanciful
pciture of frightful loss in battle. There were a dozen battles in which
the federal armies alone lost more than 10,000 men, enough to populate a city,
and it has been estimated that the totals on both sides amounted to more than
700,000 killed and wounded. When it is recalled that most of these were
young men who in the natural course of events had many years of usefulness yet
to live for their
country, the cost to the American nation is simply appalling. This is
entirely aside from the many sorrowing mourners for the heroes of the Old
Vermont Brigade and for many others who failed on the battlefield to answer
"here" at roll-call.
"Corporal Green!" the Orderly cried;
"Here!" was the answer loud and clean,
From the lips of a soldier who stood near, -
And "Here" was the word the next replied.
"Cyrus Drew!" - then a silence fell;
This time no answer followed the call;
Only his rear-man had seen him fall:
Killed or wounded - he could not tell.
There they stood in the failing light,
These men of battle, with grave, dark looks,
As plain to be read as open books,
While slowly gathered the shades of night.
The fern on the hilsides was spashed with blood
And down in the corn where the poppies grew
Were redder stains than the poppies knew,
And crimson-dyed was the river's flood.
For the foe had crossed from the other side,
That day in the face of murderous fire
That swept them down in its terrible ire;
And their life-blood went to color the tide.
"Herbert Cline!" - At the call there came
Two stalwart soldiers into the line
Bearing between them this Herbert Cline,
Wounded and bleeding to answer his name.
"Ezra Kerr!" - and a voice answered "Here!"
"Hiram Kerr!" - but no man replied.
They were brothers, these two; the sad wind sighed,
And a shudder crept through the cornfield near.
"Ephraim Deane!" - then a soldier spoke:
"Deane carried our regiments colors," he said,
"When our ensign was shot: I left him dead
Just after the enemy wavered and broke.
"Close to the roadside his body lies;
I paused a moment and gave him to drink;
He murmured his mother's name, I think,
And Death came with it and closed his eyes.
'Twas a victory, yes; but it cost us dear:
For that company's roll, when called at night
Of a hundred men who went into the fight
Numbered but twenty that answered "Here!"
Published in PHOTOGRAPHIC HISTORY OF THE CIVIL WAR,
Vol 9, pub 1911
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DID YOU KNOW?
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Another
family..... In 1810, a father imprisoned for owing money, released
in the spring of the year. Mother and father consider their situation and
decide they cannot afford to remain at the grand family estate in Westmoreland
County, Virginia. They travel north by carriage to take up residence in a
small house in Alexandria, across the Potomac from the newly established Federal
capital.
Young Robert was three years old as his parents passed into "genteel
poverty." But not into a gently life. Two years later, his
military-hero father, Henry "Lighthouse Harry" Lee, once governor of
Virginia and a congressman, was beaten and mutilated by a mob in Baltimore.
Recovering with difficulty, left disfigured, broken in spirit, he made his
farewells in 1813 to family, commonwealth, and contry ... all for a new life in
Barbados. he meant to return soon, and after a few years, he indeed was on
his way back. But he fell ill aboard ship, went ashore at Cumberland
Island, Georgia, and died there March 25, 1818. Son Robert I. by then was
just eleven years old.
.............and there you have it
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
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quesiton, please let us know.
Folks, this is YOUR place to ask questions...
please feel free to use it... send them to
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Weekly Web Sites we've received -
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]
From:
[email protected]
http://pacivilwar.com/pow/
Confederate and Union Prisoners of the War - POWs - Genealogy
Type in a name and it will do a search for you or if you scroll down you will
see the various prisons listed where various types of searches can be done.
http://www.cyndislist.com/cw.htm#Mailing
Mailing Lists, Newsgroups and Chat
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From one of the maillists I belong to.
In
Celebration of General Robert E. Lees Birthday - January 19.
One of Americas Greatest Heroes!
http://www.dixierising.com/eCard/DixieDay.php?view=1&id=185990
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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[email protected]
Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New
York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and
Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram
Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th
OHIO
if anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the
85th NY
Infantry
which spent most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters
of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected]
has
Delaware
Civil War Union Rosters
from two different sources and a book "They
Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois
Civil War research, you
may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil
War Ancestor,
Kevin/[email protected]
does Volunteer reseach
at
Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate
researching,
visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com
Tell
him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please
send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include it here in
our calendar.
You
might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
January 24 11 AM - 2 PM Come to learn more about Civil
War Surgery and Medicine
at the Mansfield State Historic Site in Mansfield,
LA.
A site historian will explain the medical treatment of soldiers during the Civil
War. A reproduction amputation field kit will be on display. For more
information, call 1-888-677-6267 toll free or 318-872-1474 locally.
January
31 - Feb 1 Florida,
Mt. Dora Battle
of Townsend’s Plantation & Civil War Festival, Renninger’s Antique
Center, Mt. Dora, 10-5. Battles Saturday at 3, Sunday at 2. Living history
exhibits, ladies’ tea, dress ball with 97th Regimental String Band, chapel
service, folk music, pre-battle concerts. All branches welcome, bounty for
cavalry & artillery, cash prizes. Sutlers must pre-register. Admission $5,
children under 12 $2. Sponsored by the Offices of Clay Townsend Esq.
For
more information, contact:
Stacy or Clay, (407) 422-2956, [email protected].
Reenactors:
Mike Hardy, 37th Alabama, (407) 880-4575, [email protected].
Sutlers:
Dennis Grenier, (407) 240-6754
February
7 11 AM - 3 PM Frederick,
MD - Living History
Confederate
Surgeon presentation by Jason Grabill, 11-3, National Museum of Civil War
Medicine, Frederick. Demonstration, discussion of Civil War era surgical
practices, techniques, challenges.
For
more information, contact:
(301) 695-1864
February
7 Elizabeth
City, North Carolina - Living History
Civil
War Naval Living History, Museum of the Albemarle, Elizabeth City. Encampment,
demonstrations, lectures & displays including artillery, shipbuilding,
navigation, medical.
For
more information, contact:
Museum of the Albemarle, (252) 335-1453, [email protected]
February
7
Philadelphia,
PA Lincoln Day Annual
Lincoln Day Parade and Honor Ceremony, Union League of Philadelphia.
Participants meet by 11 a.m. in General Meade Room. Free luncheon, honor
ceremony, parade through the city to Lincoln Monument, reception. No charge.
Bring wreaths, music, colors. Military, civilians welcome.
For
more information, contact:
registration, (215) 587-5592, (215) 204-5452, [email protected],
[email protected]
February
13 - 15 8 am - 4 pm Olustee
Battle Historic State Park near Lake City, FL
140th
Anniversary Battle of Olustee Reenactment at Olustee Battle Historic State Park
near Lake City. 8-4 daily. Battles Saturday & Sunday, overnight cavalry
campaign. Full-scale artillery, infantry, cavalry. Recruiting for 8th & 35th
USCT, 54th Massachusetts. Ladies’ tea, civilian activities, medical
demonstration, storytelling, Friday Education Day, period music, church
services, evening ball for reenactors. No reenactor fee.
For
more information, contact:
(386) 397-7009 or (386) 758-0400, [email protected];
http://extlab7.entnem.ufl.edu/Olustee/
February
13 - 15 Roanoke
Island Festival Park, Manteo, NC
4th
annual living history weekend commemorating 142nd anniversary of the Battle of
Roanoke Island at Roanoke Island Festival Park in Manteo. After February 1862
victory the Union established camps and a freedmen’s colony. Saturday 10-5,
Sunday 11-3. Soldiers, sailors, artillery demonstrations, period crafts,
presentations, lectures, children’s activities. Admission free for park
ticketholders, $5 donation per family suggested for others.
For
more information, contact:
(252) 475-1500.
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every
Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
with
hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
January 22, 2004 - OPEN CHAT (Jayne may not be available due to jury
duty.
January 23, 2004 - Vicksburg and Chattanooga
January 29 & 30, 2004 - OPEN CHAT with more Civil War Trivia :D
February 5 & 6, 2004 - to be announced
February 12 & 13, 2004 - Our special Songs letters and poems nights.
If you would like to share something sent from your ancestor during the war,
please send to HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
We'll
See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
Bill and Jayne :-)
Hear
Ye .... Hear Ye
"The
Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 25 January 2004
NOTE:
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NOTES FROM THE HOSTS OF THE CIVIL WAR HISTORY CHATS
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Our
Thursday and Friday chats were great last week, I hope you were able to join us.
Thursday night we had open chat talking about several subjects.... the diet of a
soldier as compared to ours, restoration of cemeteries and state laws governing
old cemeteries, grave markers, tours, prisons, museums and Morgan's Raiders.
Friday night we told the story of Vicksburg and Chattanooga and Bill gave us
some strange and interesting facts about the Civil War.
Check in with us this coming Thurs and Friday. It will be Open Chat and
I'm sure we'll find some trivia questions we can ask ;)
Be sure to check out the Members helping Members section of the newsletter and
also the Help Desk. Maybe you can help someone or maybe you have a
question of your own you need help with, just send the info to [email protected]
and we'll be sure to get your question in.
We're still looking for reviews of the Civil War Books you've read
and if you have any Civil War URL's you would like to share with the
other readers, please send them to [email protected]
I've got a special project going on for the Bits of Blue and Gray website.
I'm going to put back issues of the Weekly Fireside newsletter on the site.
I need to get more of them added before I upload them. I'll let you
know here when they've been added to the site. I think you'll enjoy them.
When going over the old Weekly Firesides, I found a feature we use to have in
the Newsletter.... Music to search by.... :D
While I'm not researching, I I am working on the newsletter and listening to a
CD called "Remembrance" by tenor John McDermott. The Songs go
back to the Civil War, with the "Battle Hymn of the Republic."
They display the many faces of remembrances. Some of the songs are
"Roses of Picardy," "I'll Be Seeing You," "The Green
Fields of France," "Shenandoah," and about 12 others.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR
FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil
War," with by-products of laughter, and camaraderie!
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and
"wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives
and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived
through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said
it so well.
"I
think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR
PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental
and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History,
with honesty and truth (as we know it).
JOIN HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill... Thursday
11 PM ET AND
Friday 10 PM ET
in the Ancestral
Digs
Room The "program" will not necessarily be the same
both nights. We will still have our Songs, Letters and poems nights
the 2nd Thursday of the month and the Friday following. Watch the schedule below
to see what we're up to.
Also
on Thursday 8-9PM ET: Trace Your Civil War Ancestors in Ancestral
Digs.
Join
HOST FMLY Wolfrd and HOST FMLY Heathr to discuss ancestral searches
from the Civil War period
You can visit the other Genealogy chats by going to KEYWORD: Parenting
Chats > scroll down to Genealogy or Genealogy 101 and click.
Be sure to read the Genealogy and History message boards at Genealogy
Community >
Genealogy:Boards > Historial People, Places & Times (scroll down to War
Between the States) (post your questions on them too!!!)
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"THE BOOK SHELF"
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If
you have read a great Civil War book you think others should read, I invite all
of you (you don't have to be an AOL member to share here in the Weekly
Fireside) to send the title, author and a Review of it to [email protected].
From: Hugh W36
WHITE
DOVES AT MORNING.
By James Lee Burke.
Simon & Schuster
I had to finish reading this book about the US Civil War in a hurry because when
I telephoned my local branch library to renew it, I was told that there was a
waiting list.
The writer, James Lee Burke, is well known for his 12 published detective
stories and his prose was fluent and easy to read but I hardly like reading
about civilization at its lowest ebb.
The scenes are beautifully set and the period detail seemed to be
authentic, but the sordid facts of violence. prostitution, rape, dead children,
horrible planters and white trash overseers, and slavery, did not make an
enjoyable read.
In reality the gruesomeness and aftermath of war is all too well known to me,
but with a brilliant director this book could be an Oscar winning film in
the style of Mississipi Burning - which I have always refused to see
because of the inhumanity of the subject.
Burke wrote a quaint epilogue telling the reader what happened to the
characters, a bit silly really, because he should have written a sequel, or even
a trilology, not that I would read it or them, but as part of the business of
writing for a living, it would seem to be a good commercial idea.
Hugh Watkins
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http://www.roberteleecwrt.org/reviews.html
Check
out some other book reviews at the above website.
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--------OUR
WEEKLY READING--------
(these items are extracts from our Letters, Songs,
and Poems evenings)
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Adieu
to a Soldier
Walt Whitman
.
ADIEU O soldier,
You of the rude campaigning, (which we shared,)
The rapid march, the life of the camp,
The hot contention of opposing fronts, the long manoeuvre,
Red battles with their slaughter, the stimulus, the strong terrific game,
Spell of all brave and manly hearts, the trains of time through you and like of
you all fill'd,
With war and war's expression.
.
Adieu dear comrade,
Your mission is fulfill'd- but I, more warlike,
.
Myself and this contentious soul of mine,
Still on our own campaigning bound,
Through untried roads with ambushes opponents lined,
Through many a sharp defeat and many a crisis, often baffled,
Here marching, ever marching on, a war fight out- aye here,
To fiercer, weightier battles give expression.
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Source: http://members.tripod.com/~DizzyDi2/
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DID YOU KNOW?
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In
case you ever wondered why a large number of your ancestors
disappeared during a certain period in history, this might help.
Epidemics have always had a great influence on people - and thus
influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many
cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying
during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. Some
of the major epidemics in the United States are listed below:
1657 Boston
Measles
1687 Boston
Measles
1690 New York
Yellow Fever
1713 Boston
Measles
1729 Boston
Measles
1732-3 Worldwide
Influenza
1738 South Carolina
Smallpox
1739-40 Boston
Measles
1747 CT,NY,PA,SC
Measles
1759 N. Amer [areas inhabited by white people]
Measles
1761 N. Amer and West Indies
Influenza
1772 N. America
Measles
1775 N. Amer [especially hard in NE] epidemic
Unknown
1775-6 Worldwide [one of the worst epidemics] Influenza
1783 Dover, DE ["extremely fatal"]
Bilious Disorder
1788 Philadelphia and New York
Measles
1793 Vermont [a "putrid" fever] and
Influenza
1793 VA [killed 500 in 5 counties in 4 weeks]
Influenza
1793 Philadelphia [one of the worst epidemics]
Yellow Fever
1793 Harrisburg, PA [many unexplained deaths]
Unknown
1793 Middletown, PA [many mysterious deaths] Unknown
1794 Philadelphia, PA
Yellow Fever
1796-7 Philadelphia, PA
Yellow Fever
1798 Philadelphia, PA [one of the worst]
Yellow Fever
1803 New York
Yellow Fever
1820-3 Nationwide [starts-Schuylkill River and spreads]
"Fever"
1831-2 Nationwide [brought by English emigrants]
Asiatic Cholera
1832 NY City and other major cities
Cholera
1837 Philadelphia
Typhus
1841 Nationwide [especially severe in the south]
Yellow Fever
1847 New Orleans
Yellow Fever
1847-8 Worldwide
Influenza
1848-9 North America
Cholera
1850 Nationwide
Yellow Fever
1850-1 North America
Influenza
1852 Nationwide [New Orleans-8,000 die in summer]
Yellow Fever
1855 Nationwide [many parts]
Yellow Fever
1857-9 Worldwide [one of the greated epidemics]
Influenza
1860-1 Pennsylvania
Smallpox
1865-73 Philadelphia, NY, Boston, New Orleans} {Smallpox
Baltimore, Memphis,
Washington DC}
{Cholera
[A series of recurring
epidemics of:}
{Typhus
{Typhoid
{Scarlet Fever
{Yellow Fever
1873-5 N. America and Europe
Influenza
1878 New Orleans [last great epidemic]
Yellow Fever
1885 Plymouth, PA
Typhoid
1886 Jacksonville, FL
Yellow Fever
1918 Worldwide[high point yr] more people were
{Influenza
hospitalized in WWI from
this epidemic than
wounds. US Army
training camps became
death camps, with 80%
death rate in some
camps
Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned:
1833 Columbus, OH
1834 New York City
1849 New York
1851 Coles Co., IL, The Great Plains, and
Missouri
(from Kansas mailing list)
.............and there you have it
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THE
HELP DESK
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Do you have a question that you didn't get to ask in the chatroom??
Send us and email and we'll post it here to see if
some of our readers can help you. If you get an answer to your
quesiton, please let us know.
Folks, this is YOUR place to ask questions...
please feel free to use it... send them to
[email protected]
From:
SusiCP
Thought
the data about where Regiment was from, you may want to put in paper
>>:>) Susi
Columbia Co. Civil War 178th Regt. The Regt was recuited in Columbia,
Montour, Lancaster, and Luzerne Counties. A. H and I were from Columbia,
F and G mostly from Montour. Co. H,
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Weekly Web Sites we've received -
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If you have a favorite Civil War site, please send them to [email protected]
From: [email protected]
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/today/jan21.html
Today
in History - there are tabs you can click to move forward or
backward.
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
Bureau
of Land Management - General Land Office Records
Someone gave me the following site, I dropped it into an email to myself and
forgot to put who gave it to me, so I apologize to whomever it was.
http://www.dupontalumni.org/article23.htm
History
of Cleveland Hall, Hermitage, Tennessee
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From: An Madra Rua
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/
Then
click on the B&N University file tab all the way to the top right.
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From: DaePowell
http://lab.artlung.com/htm/gettysburg/
Gettysburg
Address in HTML Buttons (for no good reason)
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FROM OUR READERS
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From: UCMEGEEBEE
Jayne,
Of course, if you think the quote would be of interest to anyone else,
you may share it....
(This is the quote Glenda sent to me along with a bit more which is below.)
From the old records for County Line Baptist Church recorded on October
13, 1860: "The church resolved that they would meet
on Friday before the first Sabbath in next month for the purpose of fasting and
prayer to Almighty God that he would calm the troubled waters of a political
world and save us as a nation from a dissolution and the shedding of
blood."
No Tara... no ya-hooing.. but a picture of how people truly felt at that trouble
time. I just thought you would like seeing it too..
...I am still working with those old records and last night discovered the
following entry. I find all old records interesting, but these are amazing in
the clarity of the picture they send of the people living during that awful
time. It looks as if when war finally came, that Alabamians were like Uncle
Robert and loyal to their own. Sorry to bother you with this, but it
is wonderful to share them with someone that will appreciate their importance.
Hope you had a good day today. Glenda
November 9, 1861
Upon a motion, there was a committee of three appointed, to wit: Brother W.
W. Baird, W. A. Hunter and S. M. Perry to draw up resolutions
expressive of the feeling of the church in reference to the death of our beloved
young brother J. C. Talbert, who died in the service of the Confederate
States.
S. M. Perry, Moderator
C. P. Hunter, Clk.
Dec. 8th, (1861)
On the Sabbath the church met in conference. The committee to draw up
resolutions expressive of the feelings of the church in reference to the death
of Brother J. C. Talbert (sic, should be Talbot) submits to the church
for their action the following obituary and resolution for their action which
was unanimously adopted, to wit:
The subject of this notice, J. C. Talbert, (sic, should be Talbot) son of
John R. and Lucy W. Talbot was born Oct. 7th, 1837, united with
the Baptist church at Sardis in Wilkes County, Georgia in September 1855 and was
baptized by Elder Enoch Calloway. He lived a pious, consistent and useful
member of the same until with his parents he drew his letter and removed to
Chambers County, Alabama and united with the church at County Line. Shortly
after the contest commenced in which we are engaged as a people for our
independence, he joined a company of cavalry, commanded by Elder Jefferson
Falkner, as captain and went to aid in repelling from his native and much
loved South an invading foe. He was not, however, permitted long to remain in
the service of his country. He was attacked with that scourge of the camp, flux,
which terminated his life in camp near Columbus, Kentucky on the 20th of Sept.
1861. He stated to his comrades in arms that he felt perfectly prepared for
death and that he was going to meet his Savior and his God in peace and
requested that his body should be sent home to his relatives and interred at the
church of which he was a member, which was done.
Resolved 1st That in the death of our beloved Brother John
C. Talbot, County (Line) has lost a good citizen, the army a brave and
patriotic soldier, the church a pious, devoted, active and useful member and the
family an affectionate and dutiful son and brother.
Resolved 2nd That the church mourns her own loss
and deeply sympathize with the bereaved family and would mingle her tears with
theirs at the loss of one who was so much the pride both of the family and the
church.
Resolved 3rd That the foregoing proceedings be spread
upon our minutes, a copy sent to the Southwestern Baptist for publication and a
copy presented to the bereaved family.
S. M. Perry, Moderator
C. P. Hunter, Clk.
Interesting to note: In "A Survey of Cemeteries in Chambers County,
Alabama" I found an entry for this gentleman's tombstone. His parents were
buried next to him. The stone reads:
John C. Talbot 10/7/1837 - 12/26/1861
Note from Glenda: I have no explanation for the error in his
death date. Since the entry in the old church records was made prior to the date
reported to be his death on his tombstone, I would think the church record is
correct. gb
Glenda
Thanks so much for sharing this with us all!!!
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NOTE: This was sent to me by Glojet
The Elusive Ancestor
by Merrill Kenworthy
I went searching for an ancestory. I cannot find him still.
He moved around from place to place and did not leave a will.
He married where a courthouse burned. He mended all his fences.
He avoided any man who came to take the U.S Census.
He always kept his luggage packed, this man who had no fame.
And every 20 years or so, this rascal changed his name.
His parents come from Europ. They should be upon so list
of passengers to the USA, but somehow they got missed.
And no one else in the world is searching for this man.
So, I play geneasolitaire to find him if I can.
I'm told he's buried in a plot, with tombstone he was blessed;
but the weather took engraving, and some vandals took the rest.
He died before the county clers decided to keep records.
No Family Bible has emerged, in spite of all my efforts
To top it off, this ancestor, who has cause me many groans
Just to give me one more pain, betrothed a girl named JONES.
If you have a story to tell, please send it to us.
HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!
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[email protected]
Has a book Annals of Alexander Hamilton Post, No 182, Department of New
York, Grand Army of the Republic, during the years 1184 to 1900, Compiled and
Aranged by Past Commanders F. S. Bartram and T. W. Smith, New York, Bartram
Press, 126 William Street --- 1900
The list of Names from the book has been in the Newsletter the past two weeks,
There are many pictures in the book. If you think your ancestor was a
member of Hamilton Post No. 182 Please email [email protected]
[email protected] said she has a book on the men of the 9th
OHIO
if anyone needs information.
[email protected] has a book on the
85th NY
Infantry
which spent most of their time in Andersonville.
[email protected] Has a book with the Rosters
of the 1st through the 20th Ohio Soldiers.
[email protected]
has
Delaware
Civil War Union Rosters
from two different sources and a book "They
Died at Fort Delaware"
If anyone is doing Illinois
Civil War research, you
may email [email protected]
Tell him HOST FMLY Jayne sent you. He will give it priority and see what
he can find for you.
If YOU have a Civil
War Ancestor,
Kevin/[email protected]
does Volunteer reseach
at
Andersonville Civil War Prison in Andersonville, GA.
Any research he does is absolutely at NO cost and he is willing to do all he
can. There are more than 32,000 prisoners on record from the Union, and quite a
few who were held prisoner there as Union regiments from Confederate states.
There are also nearly 13000 marked graves of those who died there. Kevin's
focus is dedicated to ALL of those held prisoner during the war, on both sides,
as well as all Americans who gave their freedoms for those that we enjoy today..
He just happens to be near Andersonville, so that is where he does his work.
Visit Kevin's site at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html
If YOU have a question regarding Confederate
researching,
visit Steve Teeft's website at http://www.dixieresearch.com
Tell
him you saw his address in the Weekly Fireside. [email protected]
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"THE TOWN CRIER"
Civil War Calendar!!
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If your group is sponsoring any events or you know of a great event, please send it to [email protected] and we will be glad to include it here in our calendar.
You
might want to check out this site if you're looking for an event in your area:
http://www.civilwar-va.com/events/events0104.html
January
31 - Feb 1 Florida,
Mt. Dora Battle
of Townsend’s Plantation & Civil War Festival, Renninger’s Antique
Center, Mt. Dora, 10-5. Battles Saturday at 3, Sunday at 2. Living history
exhibits, ladies’ tea, dress ball with 97th Regimental String Band, chapel
service, folk music, pre-battle concerts. All branches welcome, bounty for
cavalry & artillery, cash prizes. Sutlers must pre-register. Admission $5,
children under 12 $2. Sponsored by the Offices of Clay Townsend Esq.
For
more information, contact:
Stacy or Clay, (407) 422-2956, [email protected].
Reenactors:
Mike Hardy, 37th Alabama, (407) 880-4575, [email protected].
Sutlers:
Dennis Grenier, (407) 240-6754
February
7 11 AM - 3 PM Frederick,
MD - Living History
Confederate
Surgeon presentation by Jason Grabill, 11-3, National Museum of Civil War
Medicine, Frederick. Demonstration, discussion of Civil War era surgical
practices, techniques, challenges.
For
more information, contact:
(301) 695-1864
February
7 Elizabeth
City, North Carolina - Living History
Civil
War Naval Living History, Museum of the Albemarle, Elizabeth City. Encampment,
demonstrations, lectures & displays including artillery, shipbuilding,
navigation, medical.
For
more information, contact:
Museum of the Albemarle, (252) 335-1453, [email protected]
February
7
Philadelphia,
PA Lincoln Day Annual
Lincoln Day Parade and Honor Ceremony, Union League of Philadelphia.
Participants meet by 11 a.m. in General Meade Room. Free luncheon, honor
ceremony, parade through the city to Lincoln Monument, reception. No charge.
Bring wreaths, music, colors. Military, civilians welcome.
For
more information, contact:
registration, (215) 587-5592, (215) 204-5452, [email protected],
[email protected]
February
13 - 15 8 am - 4 pm Olustee
Battle Historic State Park near Lake City, FL
140th
Anniversary Battle of Olustee Reenactment at Olustee Battle Historic State Park
near Lake City. 8-4 daily. Battles Saturday & Sunday, overnight cavalry
campaign. Full-scale artillery, infantry, cavalry. Recruiting for 8th & 35th
USCT, 54th Massachusetts. Ladies’ tea, civilian activities, medical
demonstration, storytelling, Friday Education Day, period music, church
services, evening ball for reenactors. No reenactor fee.
For
more information, contact:
(386) 397-7009 or (386) 758-0400, [email protected];
http://extlab7.entnem.ufl.edu/Olustee/
February
13 - 15 Roanoke
Island Festival Park, Manteo, NC
4th
annual living history weekend commemorating 142nd anniversary of the Battle of
Roanoke Island at Roanoke Island Festival Park in Manteo. After February 1862
victory the Union established camps and a freedmen’s colony. Saturday 10-5,
Sunday 11-3. Soldiers, sailors, artillery demonstrations, period crafts,
presentations, lectures, children’s activities. Admission free for park
ticketholders, $5 donation per family suggested for others.
For
more information, contact:
(252) 475-1500.
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events
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Time:
Every
Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
Every Friday Night at 10 PM ET in the Ancestral
Digs Room
with
hosts HOST FMLY Jayne, HOST FMLY Bill and their many faithful friends :)
January 29 & 30, 2004 - OPEN CHAT both nights with more Civil War
Trivia :D
February 5 & 6, 2004 - to be announced
February 12 & 13, 2004 - Our special Songs letters and poems nights.
If you would like to share something sent from your ancestor during the war,
please send to HOST FMLY Jayne and HOST FMLY Bill
We'll
See You Thursday and/or Friday Night.
Bill and Jayne :-)