January 2000 Weekly Firesides

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye 

"The Weekly Fireside" 
of the American Civil War History 
Special Interest Group; 
Distribution Coast to Coast 
Week ending 02 January 2000

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Editor's Announcement: Ahhhh, a long awaited answer has arrived for you folk 
who aren't AOL members and some of you who are. The Genealogy Forum now 
how a WEB SITE that is accessible to everyone (member or not). The site URL is - 

I wrote a bit of a story for the January 2000 GFNEWS which is posted on the site, 
which you might enjoy. It's not Civil War History related but it's a story about an event 
while reading census records. :-) GFS Jayne is also listed here with her new 
column.... 
Thursday night was another to remember :-) GFS TEG (Tom) wrote just an 
incredible account of "Perryville" for us which GFS Jayne read to all of us. Tom had 
the cider nice and hot and Amy did hot chocolate :D The air was a bit brisk but fire 
kept the chill down. Heh Heh I get a just a little fanciful at times, but you know how I 
am :-) 
It was a grand New Year's Eve here at "Walker's Roost". We just sat with the fire 
going and watched New Year's happen all around the world. I thought that was an 
excellent idea by the media, although I suspect their real purpose was to watch the 
lights go out and the water to quit pumping, etc. Heh Heh - they were indeed 
disappointed in that aspect and I was tickled to death to hear about NO Y2K 
incidents. Expect of course the light bulb went out in a policeman's flashlight and I 
suspect that wasn't Y2K because normal flashlights don't keep time. LOL To my 
complete surprise I even fired up my "neolithic" Desktop PC and lo and behold it 
booted up and ran. 
I was just running through my mind what to say to all of you on this first edition of the 
Weekly Fireside for the new millenium. That really sounds rather "high-fallutin" 
doesnt' it? If you're like me, this just seems like another day of life. Anyhow, back to 
my thought; I was just thinking that the most important thing I would have to say to all 
of you is "Please Don't Forget How to Laugh". Laughter is the healing ointment 
to pain, to disappointment, to dispair, and to loneliness. Me and the family were all 
sitting here on the holiday break just jabberin about "stuff". You know how you do. 
And all of a sudden my oldest daughter, Wendy (you know Peter Pan's buddy) 
popped up and said "Dad", "Did you really crawl in the crib with me when I was little 
and wouldn't go to sleep?" The whole place just erupted! Oh Lord, we laughed until 
we were sick. And we continued to laugh for days. It was one of the best 
Christmas's we've had. So here's our New Year's Wish to all of you. We Wish on 
You Spontaneous, and Repeated Spells of Uncontrollable Laughter!. Heh Heh 
I'm already starting and the minute Jayne, Tom and Amy read this lunacy from their 
partner, they're gonna start too. ROTFLOL <----- that's chat room language for 
Rollin On The Floor Laughin Out Loud! 

The Music: I've been flooding you with Celtic material 'cause I'm a complete fan of 
that music style, so I thought this week, I'd give a two set series (thus far) from the 
Windham Hill folk. I really enjoy good twelve string guitar music done by good artists 
of the instrument and these two CDs are indeed exceptional. They are titled 
"Sounds of Wood & Steel 1" and "Sounds of Wood & Steel 2". A sampling of some 
of the artists represented are "Jars of Clay", Nanci Griffith, Clint Black, Jim Messina 
and Led Kaapana with Kenny Loggins sitting it. Those along ought to entice you 
guitar music lovers to give these two a "listen". Enjoy.......... 
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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you to 
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in 
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you 
would desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use 
"keyword=roots" to get to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed 
by selecting History and Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I 
mentioned; Civil War Files, and Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New 
Genealogy Forum Web Site is being constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War 
History SIG will have an area to link to our Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, 
Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When this is complete then anyone 
(not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material. We'll be sure to let you 
know when you can access it. 

This coming Thursday we're going to leave as OPEN CHAT so you can bring your 
Civil War Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN 
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

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THE HELP DESK 
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday 
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check 
it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," 
after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the 
"Files Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." 
Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files 
Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" 
when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are 
posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 
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Andersonville lookupsFrom: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY) 
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors 
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison 
as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: 
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html> 

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received 

From: JohnR238 (John Rigdon) 
I have begun work on a Civil War in Mississippi site which I anticipate will grow to 
be comparable to my Civil War in Georgia and Civil War in South Carolina sites. If 
you have any ties to Mississippi in the war, either because of ancestors who lived or 
fought there, drop by and visit. 
The Civil War in Mississippi 
http://www.researchonline.net/mscw 
The Civil War in Georgia 
http://www.reseearchonline.net/gacw 
The Civil War in South Carolina 
http://www.researchonline.net/sccw 
John - thanks for your update and congratulations on excellent sites. 

from Jowhara7 
Happy New Year 
http://members.aol.com/cc2bunny/page19/newyear.html 

from GFS Jayne as passed on by GFS Gary: 
Interesting CW Bibliography 
http://www.ionet.net/~cousin/dale31.html 

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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr: 
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a 
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just 
might be of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this 
unusual event. Best to all, Ted
And The Band Played On

July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival 
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville 
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most 
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the 
University's sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000. 
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University, 
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 
miles southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville). 

Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band 
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville. 

Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, 
Kentucky, and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing 
to participate or seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at 
Soyuz11@aol.com or Bob Baccus at wrbaccus@hiwaay.net. 

For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-
5211--office or at whittm@campbellsvil.edu, or Dr. David McCullough, director of 
bands at Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at 
mcdavid@campbellsvil.edu. 

Marc C. Whitt 
Vice President for Advancement 
Campbellsville University 
1 University Drive 
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799 
(270) 789-5211-office phone 
(270) 789-5095-office fax 

"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If 
any of you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" 
information to get "your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a 
hurry and this is a "first time" gathering of this nature.... :-) 

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or 
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then 
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your 
request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you 
direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY 
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved 
for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between 
members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto 
others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can 
share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE 
SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. 
Their screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... 
Please honor their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you 
do follow the guidelines indicated above.... 

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From: CW1865 
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana 
on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 
other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this 
disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr 
grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of 
Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the 
night the Sultana went down. 
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse 

{{{Pam}}} - check out the websites for this week. 
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying 
to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail 
IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details 

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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP 
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New 
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry, 
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall 
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK 
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West 
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on 
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named. 
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or 
advice. 
Thank you VERY much. 
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va. 

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the 
membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of 
the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye?? 
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... 

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for 
information, Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...

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More Updates from the Morris Island S.C Project 
Editor's Note: it goes to a vote on 11 January 2000 

from AJWRJW 
The information on the Battleground Preservation projects on the website may help lead to 
someone connected to Morris Island. If I find a site leading directly to Morris Island I will 
forward that as well. Also try the Civil War at Charleston Layout Page which may lead to some 
of your Morris Island connections. 
http://www.awod.com/gallery/probono/cwchas/cwlayout.html 
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These are the names of the council folks who will vote on Jan 11th to allow development on 
Morris Island - please if you can, write to these folks to tell them how important this area is the 
our nation's history. I have also included the Folly Beach Council address, along with the Morris 
Island Web Site. 
Happy New Year! 
Paula 

Morris Island Preservation: http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/pres_mi.htm 

.....and another article: http://charleston.net/pub/news/local/civ0102.htm 

Mayor Vernon Knox 
Council member Jane Theiling 
Council member C. Wallace Benson, Jr. 
Council member Gered Lennon 
Council member Caroline Palmer Rhodes 
Council member Bill Klauber 
Council member Harvey Wittschen 

Folly Beach Council 
City of Folly Beach 
21 Center Street 
P.O. Box 48 
Folly Beach, S. C. 29439-0048 
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From Alysabeth: 

A Complicated Order 
A resident in a seaside hotel breakfast room called over the head waiter 
one morning and said, "I want two boiled eggs, one of them so undercooked 
it's runny, and the other so over cooked it's tough and hard to eat. Also, 
grilled bacon that has been left on the plate to get cold; burnt toast 
that crumbles away as soon as you touch it with a knife; butter straight 
from the deep freeze so that it's impossible to spread; and a pot of very 
weak coffee, luke-warm." 
"That's a complicated order sir," said the bewildered waiter. "It might be 
quite difficult to prepare." 
The guest replied, "Oh? That's strange, because that's what I got yesterday!" 

{{Beth}} - I love that one. :D 
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From: Dvgagel 
A little New Years gift for those with Ohio Civil War Ancestors: There is a great deal 
available in various sites around Ohio on CW veterans. The Ohio Historical Society 
in Columbus (check their website at www.ohiohistory.org); The Center for Archival 
Collections at Bowling Green State University has an excellent CW collection for 
NW Ohio. Also in Northwest Ohio check out the Hayes Presidential Library in 
Fremont. They have a good CW collection since Hayes served in the CW from 
Ohio. For other parts of the state, check out the regional archives and local 
university archives. Also many of the Ohio regiments have websites. 
Happy New Year. 
Diane 

{{{Diane}}} - thanks for the New Years treat !

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From: bettydolls@prodigy.net 
Would you please forward the Weekly Fireside to my friend,,,Pat,,, at 
vaseska@htc.net??? and her sister, Phyllis at prveath@accessus.net 
Thank you very much... 

{{Betty}} I did that :-) Pat and Phyllis, welcome aboard :D It may surprise a lot of you 
that our distribution is about 20 to 30 % outside AOL membership. Check the Editor's 
note at the front of the newsletter for the AOL Genealogy Forum's Web Site which is 
accessible by all. :D 
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From: FI WATROUS 
Can anyone help this fellow? 

"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt. 
From: Trimmerrw@aol.com 
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but 
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt. 
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903. 

"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits..... 
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From: vaseska@htc.net (Pat Vaseska) 
I received your e-mail and I am very happy to be on your list. Thank you, 
very much for all the good things you do. 
Happy Holidays 
Pat 

{{{Pat}}} Bless your heart! Thanks for the kind words. 
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From: GFS Jayne 
Peruque Fort 
During Sterling Price's 1864 raid into Missouri, he sent a detachment of 100 
men under Capt. Anderson, alias "Bloody Bill" Anderson to take this bridge out. Price didn't 
want reinforcements to arrive from St. Louis while he captured Jefferson City. Anderson failed 
at his mission, probably because it was so well protected. Gen. Marmaduke commanded a 
portion of the troops that were part of this raid. 
Gen. Price reported, "Captain Anderson, who that day reported to me with 
about 100 men, was sent to destroy the North Missouri railroad; at the same 
time Quantrell, with the men under his command, was sent to destroy the 
Hannibal and Saint Joseph railroad, to prevent, if possible, the enemy from 
throwing their forces from Saint Louis in my front. These officers, I was 
afterwards informed, did some damage to the roads, but none of advantage, 
and totally failed in the main object proposed, which was to destroy the 
large railroad bridge in the edge of Saint Charles county." 
St. Louis actually was another target for this raid, but Union Gen. 
Rosencrans was able to put together a "Citizens Guard" of five regiments and 
three battalions (one of these black), combined with whatever few Federal 
units that were in the vicinity. This brought the defending force in St. 
Louis to around 6,000-7,000. 
While Price had a superior force of 8,000-9,000 Confederate (as well as 
2,000 unarmed), he failed to have a 2:1 numeric advantage which would have been necessary 
to insure victory against the Federals who had heavy artillery and fortifications at St. Louis. So 
the attack here was aborted. Some Confederate Cavalry did make it into the county, such as at 
the Cheltenham Post office (building still standing at 6437 Manchester Rd in the City of St. 
Louis), which was temporarily captured. 

In Gen. Price's report he gives a summary of some of his area activities: 
"Whilst at Ironton, receiving information that the Federal forces 
exceeded my own two to one, and knowing the city to be strongly fortified, I 
determined to move as fast as possible on Jefferson City, destroying, the 
railroad as I went, with a hope to capture that city with its troops and 
munitions of war. I arrived at Richwoods on the 30th, having passed through 
Potosi. Lieutenant Christian, whom I had sent to the Mississippi river 
before I left Camden for the purpose of obtaining gun-caps, joined me at 
this place, bringing 150,000. Lieutenant Christian is a most energetic and 
efficient officer, and deserves especial notice. Major-General Fagan sent 
300 men to De Soto to destroy the depot, which was effected, and the 
militia, who had gathered there in some numbers, at the same time was 
scattered. At the same time, General Cabell was sent with his brigade to cut 
the Pacific railroad, east of Franklin, which he did effectually, also 
burning the depot in that town." 

Scott Williams 
http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmostlu/grantcamp.htm 
U.S. Grant Camp, No. 68 Sons of Union Veterans 
Sterling Price Camp, No. 145 Sons of Confed. Veterans 
http://www.sterlingprice145.org/ 
St. Louis, Missouri 

Kelly (Meyer?) came up with the following history on Peruque Fort. This is out of the book 
"History of St. Charles Mo. 1765-1885 
During the War of the Rebellion, the long trestle work over Peruque creek, on the Wabash, St. 
Louis & Pacific Railway, a few miles west of O'Fallon station, was 
menaced by Marmaduke's army of Confederates, and a block house or fort was 
erected for the accomodation of Union soldiers, placed there to guard the trestle. 
The old log fort still stands near the track. It is built in a particularly strange and attractive style, 
the upper story consisting of logs, laid in the shape of a diamond 
across the square story arising from the ground. On bothside of the points of the diamond were 
cut small windows and loop holes, and from this elevated position 
a full view of the trestle could be had, and the entire property was within range of the guns of the 
soldiers quartered there. Small detachments of Union troops garrisoned 
the fort until after the close of hostilities, and Peruque Fort became quite a noted and historical 
point. 
Kelly 

{{Jayne}} - this is really neat material. :-) 
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From: GFS Jayne 
I just found this!! Some of our room members have asked about placing memorial markers for 
Civil War Soldiers.... this might help explain. 
Civil War Ear Headstones and Markers 
http://www.cem.va.gov/hmcivil.htm 
There are specific style.s of upright headstones and flat markers to mark the graves of Union 
and Confederate Civil War and Spanish-American War dead. 
Proof of military service prior to World War I requires detailed documentation, such as muster 
rolls, extracts from State files, pension documents or land warrants, to be considered for a 
Government-provided headstone or marker. 
Memorial markers are not usually provided for Civil War soldiers. The mere fact that the 
whereabouts of the grave is not known is not reason enough for issuing a government headstone 
or marker. The circumstances surrounding the soldiers' death should be such that it is assumed 
the remains were unrecoverable or unidentifiable due to burning, drowning or burial in a mass 
grave. If, however, there is documentation the soldier was buried in a mass grave, but the actual 
location of the body is unknown, VA will provide a memorial marker for placement in a 
national, state veteran or private cemetery. 

{{Jayne}} - thanks Pard! 
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War". 

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by 
talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil 
War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of. 

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it 
so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing 
To do whatever we may by written 
Word or molded bronze and sculpted 
Stone to keep our memories, our 
Reverence and our love alive and 
To hand them on to new generations 
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to 
address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth 
(as we know it). 

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we 
dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So 
come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a 
full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the 
Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into 
discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution 
for this "Weekly Fireside." 

AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :) 

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to 
the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire 
to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we will comply 
with your wishes "poste- haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events***** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH Amy, 
GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :) 

01/06/2000 - Can you believe it's 2000? Well, we're going to leave this OPEN CHAT so you 
can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them........... 

01/13/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night. 

01/20/2000 - OPEN CHAT 

01/27/2000 - "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided by 
IllinoisCW. Frank has provided a great story which GFS Jayne will "read" to us .... Don't miss 
this one. 

02/03/2000 - OPEN CHAT 

02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night. 

02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose 

02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT 

We'll See You Thursday Night..! 
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-) 
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy 

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye 

"The Weekly Fireside" 
of the American Civil War History 
Special Interest Group; 
Distribution Coast to Coast 
Week ending 09 January 2000

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Mission Statement: To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable 
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Thursday night was great time of OPEN CHAT :-) I received numerous reminders 
that I was now a full-fledged member of the "Senior Moments" Club, having "miss-
layed 
" the Web Site URL for the Genealogy Forum's new web site. Heh Heh Oh well, I 
suppose this is the advanced class for "Character Building". I want to THANK ALL 
OF YOU who sent in chuckles - LOL.... There is NO WAY I could fit all of those into 
this week's Fireside :-) 

The Music: This week is a simple John Denver's "Rocky Mountain High". Being as 
that is my current home state, you just can't get any better. :-) 
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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you to 
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in 
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you 
would desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use 
"keyword=roots" to get to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed 
by selecting History and Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I 
mentioned; Civil War Files, and Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New 
Genealogy Forum Web Site is being constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War 
History SIG will have an area to link to our Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, 
Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When this is complete then anyone 
(not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material. We'll be sure to let you 
know when you can access it. 

This coming Thursday we're going to leave as OPEN CHAT so you can bring your 
Civil War Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU TO 
OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND 
COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN 
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

For your information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put 
on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank 
You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give you 
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THE HELP DESK 
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday 
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check 
it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," 
after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the 
"Files Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." 
Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files 
Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" 
when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are 
posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 
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Andersonville lookupsFrom: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY) 
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors 
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison 
as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: 
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html> 

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received 

from AJWRJW 
Civil War Book News Home Page 
http://www.cw-book-news.com/TOC.html 


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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr: 
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a 
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just 
might be of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this 
unusual event. Best to all, Ted
And The Band Played On

July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival 
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville 
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most 
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the 
University's sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000. 
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University, 
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 
miles southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville). 

Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band 
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville. 

Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, 
Kentucky, and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing 
to participate or seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at 
Soyuz11@aol.com or Bob Baccus at wrbaccus@hiwaay.net. 

For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-
5211--office or at whittm@campbellsvil.edu, or Dr. David McCullough, director of 
bands at Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at 
mcdavid@campbellsvil.edu. 

Marc C. Whitt 
Vice President for Advancement 
Campbellsville University 
1 University Drive 
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799 
(270) 789-5211-office phone 
(270) 789-5095-office fax 

"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If 
any of you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" 
information to get "your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a 
hurry and this is a "first time" gathering of this nature.... :-) 

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or 
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then 
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your 
request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you 
direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY 
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved 
for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between 
members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto 
others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can 
share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE 
SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. 
Their screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... 
Please honor their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you 
do follow the guidelines indicated above.... 

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From: CW1865 
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana 
on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 
other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this 
disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr 
grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of 
Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the 
night the Sultana went down. 
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse 

{{{Pam}}} - check out the websites for this week. 
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying 
to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail 
IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details 

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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP 
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New 
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry, 
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall 
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK 
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West 
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on 
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named. 
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or 
advice. 
Thank you VERY much. 
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va. 

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the 
membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of 
the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye?? 
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... 

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for 
information, Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...

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From: MDelPa Old Man & Little Boy 
An old man was walking down the street when he saw a small boy sitting on the curb 
crying. He stopped and asked, "Little boy, why are you crying?" 
The little boy lifted his tear-stained face to the man and mumbled, "I'm crying 
because I can't do what the big boys do." 
So the old man sat beside him and cried, too. 

{{Dottie}} that's good one. :D 
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From: Phreyor 
Hello friends! I would like to know about the Veterans Reserve Corps (VRC), 
stationed at Saint Louis in 1864. What is it and what was its purpose? I had a ggg-
Grandfather in it. Thanks for the great newsletter. I look forward to it every week. 
RFS. 

Phreyor - got your request! We'll see what the reader's come up with. In the 
mean time I'll take a look. I haven't had any experience with them to date. 
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From: TNWOM 
Just wnated to thank you , Jayne & Tom for doing such a great job. Really love 
getting the "Fireside". Wanted to tell you that I finally found one of my Civil War 
ancestors - have been looking for him for 2 years. Was looking in the wrong place. 
Finally located the right cemetery Thursday after rechecking some records at the 
library. Saturday afternoon my 14 yr old son & I set out to find the cemetery. I was 
determined to find the grave site this time. WE FOUND IT!!!!! Unfortunately most of 
the family stones are gone including his but the family plot is there & part of the 
stones are still standing. 

Peter Black 
12th TN Bat Cav Co D CSA 
Peter is my gr gr grandfather (my mother's father's grandfather) Also on the other 
side of town, I found my other gr gr grandfather (my mother's mother's grandfather) 
Alexander Hux. I was so excited to finally find Peter that I had to share! 
Barbara 

{{Barbara}} CONGRATULATIONS :D Perserverance does pay off.... :D

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From: Possum654 
Thanks for another Weekly Fireside 

"Possum" - Thank you :D 
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From: FI WATROUS 
Can anyone help this fellow? 

"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt. 
From: Trimmerrw@aol.com 
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but 
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt. 
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903. 

"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits..... 
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From: AslanJ 

Company F, 26th Regiment 
Charlton County 
"Okefenokee Rifles" 
This company was successively designated as Old Company I, and New Company F, 13th 
Regiment Georgia Infantry and Company F, (which became Company G, May 8, 1862 ), 26th 
Regiment Georgia Infantry. 
This company was organized August 14, 1861, in Charlton County, Georgia for twelve months. 
Was ordered to Brunswick, Georgia August 24, 1861. Mustered into C.S. service by Colonel 
Charles S. Rockwell August 28, 1861. Was ordered to St. Simon Island, Georgia October 6, 
1861, and went into camp there October 7, 1861. 

Engaged in battle at Wilderness, Virginia May 6, 1864; thence it marched to Spotsylvania, 
Virginia, where it was engaged in battle on the 10, 12, and 19 of May 1864. It was also 
engaged in battles around Richmond, Virginia Was in the rout and pursuit of "Hunter," and all 
battles in which General Early's Infantry was engaged. 
http://members.xoom.com/cmeadows/gvi/26regt/26gvicof.html 
Judy Canant 

{{Judy}} Thanks for the regimental information. I didn't have this one in my notes. 
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Indians at Pea Ridge, Civil War event 
From: Kernodleskid 
This is an extract of a news page picked up off of ARIZARD 
.........."While I know there were contemporary allegations in print about scalping 
having been done at Pea Ridge by the Indian troops there, I'm not convinced 
that those reports were necessarily true. The reports may well have been 
Federal propaganda or sensationalist reporting by some reporter or editor of 
the time. 
As I understand the history of the practice, scalping was supposed to have 
been introduced to North America by the British in the Northwest Territories 
(present day western New York, western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, 
Illinois, et cetera) during the French and Indian War. The British paid a 
bounty to their Indian allies for each scalp they turned in. The Indians 
involved were mostly tribes of that Region: Mohawk, Iroquois, Alquonquin, 
and so forth. 
I'm not prepared to state that the Cherokee, Choctaw, and other southern 
tribes didn't take scalps then or later. However, I've never read that they 
did and it's my sense of the matter that it was not part of their tribal 
customs to do so. 
So -- while I can't say no scalps were taken at Pea Ridge, I doubt the 
veracity of the contemporary reports. However, as I said before, barring the 
finding of a self-incriminating admission recorded by some Indian 
participant at Pea Ridge, I believe the truth about the matter probably lies 
beyond proof. 

........Not following any orders. They supposedly robbed, raped and 
burned every thing in sight. I believe after Pea Ridge my gramps did not stay with a german, as 
such, unit. He got out and planted or harvested a crop then re 
enlisted. Always a different Co. # but several was under Phelps company. Really tedious trying 
to keep up.. 
I like this little family story......after the war....my gramps married and within a few years moved 
to Arkansas to aid his father in law run a store at Wild Cherry, Ar. In Fulton Co. Only about 15 
or 20 miles apart at Mitchell, Ar. The husband of my other side (moms) grand pa's sister. Ran a 
store..post office.that fought with Prices army up in the area around Vera Cruz. They did not 
have time to be friends 
but were not enemies....... 

..........The Indians that fought at Pea Ridge were given permission by General 
Pike to "fight in their own fashion." The act of scalping an enemy was done 
by numerous participants, on both sides of the conflict, but there is no 
doubt that at Pea Ridge, the Indians did mutilate & scalp en mass. Van Dorn 
did not acknowledge the incident in any official report until news of the 
atrocities leaked out. 
The March 27th 1862 edition of the New York Tribune slams Pike for all 
kinds of things leading up to this incident. 
The Cherokee National Council issued a statement afterward condemning 
the acts & strongly urged it's people fighting on the Confederate side to 
avoid any acts of this nature on fallen foes or prisoners in the future......... 
Was Marmaduke Indian? No. John Sappington Marmaduke (1833-1887) The son of a 
Missouri Governor. 
Graduated West Point in 1857. 
Achieved the rank of Major General. 
Was captured in October 1864. 
Became a St. Louis businessman & journal editor. 
Was Governor of Missouri (1884-1887) 
Source: Who Was Who In The Civil War. 

Did he just lead the group of Indians ? At Pea Ridge, Major General Earl Van Dorn's command 
consisted of regular Confederate troops commanded by Brigadier General Benjamin 
McCulloch, and Missouri State Guard Forces commanded by Major General Sterling Price. 
The Confederate force also included some 800 Cherokee Indians fighting for 
the Confederacy. 
Source: Pea Ridge National Military Park Service. 

Four Regiments at Pea Ridge: 
The First Regiment Choctaw & Chickasaw Mounted Rifles.-Colonel Douglas 
H. Cooper. 
The First Creek Regiment.-Colonel D. N. McIntosh. 
The First Regiment Cherokee Mounted Rifles.-Colonel John Drew. 
The Second Regiment Cherokee Mounted Rifles.-Colonel Stand Watie. 
The battalions were: 
The Choctaw & Chickasaw & the Creek & Seminole, the latter under 
Lieutenant-Colonel Chilly McIntosh & Major John Jumper. 

source: The American Indian In The Civil War, 1862-1865. 
Desoto Joe/The Record Man 
In "Ride with The Devil" (the "Devil" reputedly Quantrill) there is 
a scene of the guerrillas playing cards (Poker?) in which one player is 
out of money. He offers two scalps (of Blacks) instead, and is met on 
his bet with a bet of the scalp of "Dutch" (German). A third player ( at 
tad slow, maybe? ) says "I've only got money left!" The first player 
grins and says, "We'll take it." 
In the theatre I wondered to myself who would realize this was a 
touch of reality, not a touch of melodrama. Ironic that the film and the 
list thread would hit that same chord. 
William "Bloody Bill" Anderson, Confederate guerilla and outlaw, was 
born in Missouri. he became a guerilla leader notorious for leading raids along 
the Kansas-Missouri border and infamous for scalping his victims. 

AR Civil War Pg: http://www.insolwwb.net/~egerdes/ 
Memorial Pg: http://members.tripod.com/~egerdes/index.html 
Lawrence Co. AR: http://www.couchgenweb.com/lawrence/ 
Izard Co. AR: http://idt.net/~jfultz19/izardco1.htm 
Original AR Gen PG: http://www.CouchGenWeb.com/arkansas/ 
Helms Research PG: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/ 

"Kernodleskid" this was really an interesting capture.... Thanks! 
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TN Confederate Pension Index on-line 
From: SusiCP 
The Tennessee State Library & Archives is pleased to announce that 
the index to Tennessee Confederate Pension Applications is now available on 
our web site. 
Tennessee Confederate Pensions were first offered to soldiers in 
1891. In 1905 Confederate widows became eligible. The files created by the 
Pension Board include original applications with data about the soldier's 
life and service. Many files also contain correspondence and other paperwork 
related to the claim. 
The index is found at: 
http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/pension.htm 

Librarian Ronald Lee was, as usual, the driving force behind getting 
this information converted to a computerized format. Charise Artis, a 
student intern from Tenn. State University, was also instrumental in helping 
complete the project. We plan to post additional lists sorted by military 
unit and by county of residence. Ron is leaving for a much-deserved vacation 
and will work on those when he returns. 

{{Susi}} Really good find... Thanks 

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War". 

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by 
talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil 
War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of. 

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it 
so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing 
To do whatever we may by written 
Word or molded bronze and sculpted 
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To hand them on to new generations 
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OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to 
address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth 
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We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we 
dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So 
come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a 
full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the 
Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into 
discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution 
for this "Weekly Fireside." 

AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :) 

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to 
the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire 
to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we will comply 
with your wishes "poste- haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events***** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH Amy, 
GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :) 

01/13/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night. 

01/20/2000 - It's OPEN CHAT, so you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll 
"Collectively" Try to Answer them........... 

01/27/2000 - "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided by 
IllinoisCW. Frank has provided a great story which GFS Jayne will "read" to us .... Don't miss 
this one. 

02/03/2000 - OPEN CHAT 

02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night. 

02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose 

02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT 

We'll See You Thursday Night..! 
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-) 
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy 

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye 

"The Weekly Fireside" 
of the American Civil War History 
Special Interest Group; 
Distribution Coast to Coast 
Week ending 16 January 2000

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Mission Statement: To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable 
online environment with as many helpful and reliable resources as possible. 
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Our special evening for "Letters, Songs and Poems" is always special. We did 
enjoy you attendance and participation greatly. There was a Poem about the 
"Cumberland" that went awry during transmission and I promised that I would put 
that into the Fireside for you reading. I will have to put that one in next week's as I've 
run out of time this week. 

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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you to 
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in 
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you 
would desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use 
"keyword=roots" to get to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed 
by selecting History and Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I 
mentioned; Civil War Files, and Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New 
Genealogy Forum Web Site is being constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War 
History SIG will have an area to link to our Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, 
Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When this is complete then anyone 
(not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material. We'll be sure to let you 
know when you can access it. 

This coming Thursday we're going to leave as OPEN CHAT so you can bring your 
Civil War Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND 
COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN 
OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

For your information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put 
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of any sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL 
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THE HELP DESK 
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday 
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check 
it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," 
after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the 
"Files Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." 
Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files 
Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" 
when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are 
posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 
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Andersonville lookupsFrom: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY) 
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors 
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison 
as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: 
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html> 

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received 

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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr: 
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a 
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just 
might be of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this 
unusual event. Best to all, Ted
And The Band Played On

July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival 
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville 
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most 
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the 
University's sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000. 
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University, 
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 
miles southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville). 

Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band 
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville. 

Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, 
Kentucky, and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing 
to participate or seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at 
Soyuz11@aol.com or Bob Baccus at wrbaccus@hiwaay.net. 

For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-
5211--office or at whittm@campbellsvil.edu, or Dr. David McCullough, director of 
bands at Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at 
mcdavid@campbellsvil.edu. 

Marc C. Whitt 
Vice President for Advancement 
Campbellsville University 
1 University Drive 
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799 
(270) 789-5211-office phone 
(270) 789-5095-office fax 

"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If 
any of you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" 
information to get "your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a 
hurry and this is a "first time" gathering of this nature.... :-) I'm also going to 
leave this notice in for a few weeks. 
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An Announcement from Robin............ 
From: QNavyWife 
Thanks as usual for the Fireside....I love getting it! 
I have a request to make of you....I am currently the acting Secretary of the very 
newly formed Madison County (NY) Civil War Round Table. We are trying to get the 
word out about our group to as many as possible. Our next meeting is January 21, 
2000 at 7:30 pm at the Morrisville (NY) Public Library on Rte 20 in Morrisville, NY. 
We will be having a business meeting and electing our officers and our constitution 
and by laws. We may have a short program if time permits. Normally we do have a 
program. Would you please put a short bit in the Fireside about this? I would really 
appreciate it as would the other members of the round table. Meetings are open to 
anyone who is interested, you don't have to become a member to enjoy time with 
us! Anyone who is interested in more info can contact me at QNavyWife@aol.com. I 
am the secretary-elect so unless we elect someone else from the floor, I would be 
the to contact. I can let you know about our future meetings and such if that would be 
okay..... thanks! 
Keep up the good work on the Fireside! 
Robin Moore 

{{Robin}} thank you for sending the notice. We're happy to post it and will 
post any others you would like to send us. :-) There many great "Round 
Tables" around the country and we're certainly happy to promote them 
when we know about events. 
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Morris Island - NO DEVELOPMENT 
From: AJWRJW 

I am very happy to forward this information on to you! It seems that the collective voice was 
heard around Morris Island! 
Amy 

www.charleston.net/pub/news/local/folly0112.htm 

"Here is the results of the Morris Island development - a BIG NO! 
Thanks for those who wrote letters - BTW, the middle school in Pa that they mentioned - that 
was ME!!! I had my students write letters as part of a civics project!!!!!!!!!!!" 
Paula 

{{{Amy}}} this is good news.. :-) Sooooo one can make a difference!! 
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, 
to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and 
we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near 
vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and 
work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs 
and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" 
assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). 
Do unto others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can 
share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO 
LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen 
names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their 
"goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines 
indicated above.... 

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From: CW1865 
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana on April 
17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 other parolees. Shortly 
after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this disaster who was also his friend, 
Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr grandmother what happened to her husband. I 
am looking for descendants of Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so 
what happened the night the Sultana went down. 
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse 

{{{Pam}}} - check out the websites for this week. 
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying to locate 
a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail IllinoisCW@aol.com for 
further details 

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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP 
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New 
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry, 
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall 
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK 
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West 
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on 
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named. 
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or 
advice. 
Thank you VERY much. 
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va. 

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership 
who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see 
what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye?? 
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY... 

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, 
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...

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An interesting comment on the Civil War 
From: MRB1330 
This was sent to me and I don't know why .....but it is an interesting commentary on the 
Civil War. Peggy 

The Free Congress Commentary 
What If the South Had Won the Civil 
War? 
By: William S. Lind 
From the "Next Revolution" Television Program 

If the South had won the Civil War, where might our two countries be today? It is of course 
impossible to know, and as someone who proudly wears his great-grandfather's G.A.R. ring-he 
served in the 88th and 177th Ohio Volunteers, and his diary records the monitors bombarding 
Fort Fisher as he watched from a Union transport-I'm not entirely comfortable asking the 
question. But given how bad things have gotten in the old U.S.A., it's not hard to believe that 
history might have taken a better turn. 
Slavery of course would be long gone, for economic reasons. Race relations today in the Old 
South, in rural areas and cities such as Charleston, South Carolina, are generally better than they 
are in northern cities, so we might have done all right on that score. When southerners say they 
have a special relationship with blacks based on many generations of living together at close 
quarters, they have a point. The real damage to race relations in the south came not from 
slavery, but from Reconstruction, which would not have occurred if the South had won. And 
since the North would have been a separate nation, the vast black migration to northern cities 
that took place during World War II might not have happened. Certainly Southerners would not 
be living under the iron rule of an all-powerful federal government, as we all do now. 
Northerners might not be, either; a Union defeat would have given states' rights a boost in both 
countries. The Tenth Amendment might still have the force of law even up north. 
It is possible that both countries might still be republics, instead of a single empire. That 
transformation traces to America's entry into World War I, which might not have happened. 
Southern sympathy would probably have been with Britain and France, but the North, with a 
large German population, might well have lined up with the Kaiser (the Irish would have liked 
that, too). No American entry into the war would have meant no Communism in Russia and no 
Hitler in Germany. That's not a bad bargain. 
It is highly unlikely that the Confederacy would have embraced the cultural Marxism of Political 
Correctness that is fast becoming the official American state ideology. So at least part of North 
America would still stand for Western culture, Christianity and an appreciation of the differences 
between ladies and gentlemen. Decency might have taken its stand in Dixie, along with some 
other good things such as an appreciation for the merits of rural life. 
Perhaps most important, Americans north and south might have a choice. 
If the North had turned left, as the United States has during this century, Northerners who didn't 
care for that development could cross the Mason Dixon line and become Southerners. That's an 
option more than a few of us Yankees would appreciate having, even if it did mean having to eat 
grits. 
What would my great-grandfather, Union Army sergeant Alfred G. Sturgiss, say to all of this? If 
he could see the sorry mess the country he fought for has become, I think he might sadly say 
that he'd fought for the wrong side. 
Bill Lind is director of the Free Congress Foundation's Center for Cultural Conservatism, and is 
the co-host of the television program "Next Revolution". 
Contact: Bill Lind at Free Congress Foundation 202.546.3000 

{{Peggy}} This is indeed interesting. I'm sure we'll get some feedback on this one. 
Thanks :-) 

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From: Phreyor 
Hello friends! I would like to know about the Veterans Reserve Corps (VRC), stationed at 
Saint Louis in 1864. What is it and what was its purpose? I had a ggg-Grandfather in it. Thanks 
for the great newsletter. I look forward to it every week. 
RFS. 

Phreyor - got your request! We'll see what the reader's come up with. In the 
mean time I'll take a look. I haven't had any experience with them to date. 
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From: GFS TEG 
The Veteran Reserve Corps (VRC) was made up of members who still had time left 
on their enlistments when their Regiments went home. Example - all the men who 
joined the 14th Brooklyn in 62 and 63 became members of the 5th VETERANS 
RESERVE CORPS. After the men of 61 went back to Brooklyn. 
Tom 

Thanks Tom for the feedback to Phreyor...... 
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From: FI WATROUS 
Can anyone help this fellow? 

"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt. 
From: Trimmerrw@aol.com 
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but 
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt. 
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903. 

"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits..... 
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01/20/2000 - It's OPEN CHAT, so you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll 
"Collectively" Try to Answer them........... 

01/27/2000 - "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided by 
IllinoisCW. Frank has provided a great story which GFS Jayne will "read" to us .... Don't miss 
this one. 

02/03/2000 - OPEN CHAT - In addition we will have a very special story. GFS TEG has 
gathered the story of "The Angel of Mayre's Heights" for you. This is indeed incredible. A must 
see!!!! 

02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night. 

02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose 

02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT 

We'll See You Thursday Night..! 
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-) 
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy 

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
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Distribution Coast to Coast
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Due to an extemely busy work schedule, I will, once again, be filling in for GFS 
Jim as editor for 2 or 3 weeks. There just aren't enough hours in the day or days in the 
week for him right now.
We certainly did have an interesting evening Thurs. Although not about the Civil 
War, one of the major "observations" of the night was the absolutely awesome total 
eclipse of the full moon.
One of the room members mentioned her Civil War ancestors' surnames were 
Hogg and Bacon.... another mentioned hers was Potty. Can you see where this 
headed!!!! To a discussion of "Historic artifacts" of course <Grin>... Were they latrines, 
privies, outhouses, johns, sinks, necessary houses, wash houses or washrooms... also 
mentiond were chamber pots (could that be where 'potty' came from?), thunder jugs and 
mugs. I guess you had to be there to "appreciate" it. LOL It was a great lead-in 
however to this coming Thursday night's story "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got 
His Outhouse" - provided to us by IllinoisCW. You won't want to miss it!!!!!!

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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you 
to feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in 
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you would 
desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use "keyword=roots" to get 
to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed by selecting History and 
Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I mentioned; Civil War Files, and 
Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New Genealogy Forum Web Site is being 
constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War History SIG will have an area to link to our 
Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When 
this is complete then anyone (not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material. 
We'll be sure to let you know when you can access it.

This coming Thursday we're going to be reading "Matson Slave Trial or How 
Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided to us by Frank Crawfore/IllinoisCW. You won't 
want to miss it!!!! 

We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we 
didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer 
the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," after 
which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files 
Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." Lectures 
and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" 
under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually 
get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library 
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Andersonville lookupsFrom: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as 
well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: 
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>

Editor's Note: I received the following on the Civil War Mail list I subscribe to and I 
received permission from Kevin to put this is our newsletter for a couple of weeks.

I have received request from a few of you in the past, for information of Guards who 
died at Andersonville. I had been told by the personnel at Andersonville that NO remains 
were moved after the war. I have told at least 2 researchers of this and have recently 
found information that there were 115 members of the prison guard detail who died, were 
buried at Andersonville , and were disinterred and reburied in Oakgrove Cemetery in 
Americus Georgia by the UDC. If you have asked me about this, please drop me a line 
with the names and regiments you had asked me about as I will be looking into the 
cemetery and its records in the next few weeks as I find time to get back to Andersonville 
to take photos and do research.

ED. NOTE: Please visit his website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received

From GFS Amy:

Fascinating Trivia http://home.ptd.net/~nikki/cwtrivia.htm

Here are just a few samples from the site:

The youngest recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor was Willie Johnston, 
drummer boy for the 3rd Vermont. He was 12 years old during the action at the Seven 
Days' Battles for which he received his medal.

Almost 1/2 of Confederate soldiers were wounded, captured, killed, or died from 
disease.

By war's end, over 2,000,000 volunteers had joined the Union army.

During the Civil War, gonorrhea was treated with injections of ink.

Also From GFS Amy
The following book was mentioned by Amy in the chat Thursday

"Everything Civil War"
by Spencer Kope
from Willow Creek Press of Washington 1996

Editor's Note: After doing a check with Amazon.com, I found that the title is unavailable 
as publisher is out of stock, so you might want to keep an eye out for this book at yard 
sales or second hand book stores.

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From Moweq:

Illinois State Archives http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/arc_home.html
There is searchable Civil War database link from this site.

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From IrishInCal
Civil War History/Military Records
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9787/military.html

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From GFS Jayne who received the MOH sites from the CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com 
maillist.

U.S Army_ Civil War. Medal of Honor Recipients
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rle/armymenu.htm

Civil War-NAVY. Medal of Honor Recipients
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rle/navymenu.htm

Marines-Civil War Medal of Honor Recipients.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rle/usmc1.htm

The Largest Civil War Cookbook on the Internet
http://www.almshouse.com/cookbook.htm

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From NEVassau

This URL will take you to an article by George G. Morgan: "ALONG THOSE LINES..." 
"How to Find Treasures at the National Archives" a very interesting and helpful article.
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/columns/dailynews.htm#3

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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr:
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a 
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just might be 
of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this unusual 
event. Best to all, Ted

And The Band Played On

July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville 
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most 
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the University's 
sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000. 
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University, 
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 miles 
southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville). 

Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band 
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville. 

Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, Kentucky, 
and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing to participate or 
seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at Soyuz11@aol.com or 
Bob Baccus at wrbaccus@hiwaay.net. 

For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-5211--
office or at whittm@campbellsvil.edu, or Dr. David McCullough, director of bands at 
Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at mcdavid@campbellsvil.edu. 

Marc C. Whitt
Vice President for Advancement
Campbellsville University
1 University Drive
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799
(270) 789-5211-office phone
(270) 789-5095-office fax

"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If any of 
you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" information to get 
"your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a hurry and this is a "first time" 
gathering of this nature.... :-) I'm also going to leave this notice in for a few weeks.

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I'm going to leave this in... just in case you missed it, and yes people can make a 
difference!!!

Morris Island - NO DEVELOPMENT
From: AJWRJW

I am very happy to forward this information on to you! It seems that the collective voice 
was heard around Morris Island!
Amy

www.charleston.net/pub/news/local/folly0112.htm

"Here is the results of the Morris Island development - a BIG NO!
Thanks for those who wrote letters - BTW, the middle school in Pa that they 
mentioned - that was ME!!! I had my students write letters as part of a civics 
project!!!!!!!!!!!"
Paula

{{{Amy}}} this is good news.. :-) Sooooo one can make a difference!!

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SOMETHING SPECIAL!!...

As those of you who were at our last Songs, Letters and Poems night know, one of the 
poems GFS Jim was reading "went awry" sooooo... for all you who requested that it be 
in the Fireside...... Here it tis!!!!!

The Cumberland by 
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1802-1887)

"The Cumberland was a wooden ship, a sloop with 
twenty-four guns, rammed and sunk by the 
Confederate ironclad Merrimac at Hampton
Roads, Virginia, on Saturday, March 8, 1862.
Union sailors on the Cumberland fought until
the last, enduring fearsome casualties. When
the ship sank, the main mast with the American
flag still flying remained above the water waving
in the breeze.

At anchor in Hampton Roads we lay,
On board of the Cumberland, sloop-of-war;
And at times from the fortress across the bay
The alarum of drums swept past,
Or a bugle-blast
From the camp on the shore.

Then far away to the south uprose
A little feather of snow-white smoke,
And we knew that the iron ship of our foes
Was steadily steering its course
To try the force
Of our ribs of oak

Down upon us heavily runs,
Silent and sullen, the floating fort;
Then comes a puff of smoke from her guns,
And leaps the terrible death,
With fiery breath,
From each open port.

We are not idle, but send her straight
Defiance back in a full broadside!
As hail rebounds from a roof of slate,
Rebounds our heavier hail
From each iron scale
Of the monster's hide.

"Strike your flag!" the rebel cries,
In his arrogant old plantation strain.
"Never!" our gallant Morris replies:
"It is better to sink than to yield!"
And the whole air pealed
With the cheers of our men.

Then like a kraken huge and black,
She crushed our ribs in her iron grasp!
Down went the Cumberland all awrack,
With a sudden shudder of death,
And the cannon's breath
For her dying gasp.

Next morn, as the sun rose over the bay,
Still floated our flag at the mainmast-head.
Lord, how beautifil was thy dat!
Every waft of the air
Was a whisper of prayer,
Or a dirge for the dead.

Ho! brave hearts that went down in the seas!
Ye are at peace in the troubled stream.
Ho! brave land! with hearts like these,
Thy flag, that is rent in twain,
Shall be one again,
And without a seam.

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A SPECIAL STORY!!

The Wreck of the Prisoners Train
sent by Tom Gladwell/GFS TEG

This little-known accident caused more casualties than many well-recorded 
battles of the war. Many questions about its background and aftermath remain 
unanswered.
Not all the tragic waste of human life in the Civil war was on the battlefields and 
in the hospitals and prison camps. Far removed from the fighting front, in the northeast 
corner of Pennsylvania near the little town of Shohola in Pike County, more soldiers died 
in the early afternoon of Friday, July 15, 1864 than were killed in many of the small 
battles that have received some notice in published Civil War history.
This is the story of that tragedy.
It has its beginning in the Point Lookout Federal military prison in Maryland. This 
prison camp ( there were no barracks) served as a kind of distributing point for the 
transfer of Confederate enlisted men to other prisons farther north. Set up in August 
1863, it often had a tent dwelling population of close 20,000. Our story concerns 833 0f 
these men, selected to be shipped to the Elmira ( N.Y.) Military prison when Grant's 
decision in the spring of 64 to discontinue prisoner exchange led to overcrowding at Point 
Lookout.
The first leg of the journey was by ship to Jersey City. Here in the early dawn of 
July 15 the men were transferred to a train made up of a hodgepodge of over 20 " 
emigrant" cars, box cars and the like. It carried a guard of about 125 soldiers stationed 
generally four to each car, two at the front and two at the rear. Security measures up to 
this point had been a bit leaky; the scheduled departure of the train at 4:30 a.m. was 
delayed for more than an hour by a search for three prisoners who escaped somewhere 
between the ship and the train.
The train finally got under way sometime after 5:30, and shortly before 1:30 in 
the afternoon was moving northwest toward Shohola on the single-line track of the Erie 
Railroad paralleling the Delaware River. At the same time, several miles up the line 
beyond Shohola, tragedy was in the making. An eastbound 50-car coal train came onto 
the main line off the Hawley branch four miles away at Lackawaxen. Conductor John 
Martin swung off to ask Duff Kent, telegraph operator at the junction, if the track was 
clear for him to proceed. Kent had been carousing the night before he was still suffering 
from the " morning afters," and although the flag-carrying pilot train preceding the 
prisoner-laden extra had passed his station giving warning, he unthinkingly gave Martin 
the go-ahead. So the coal train turned east at 12 miles an hour toward the now westbound 
prisoner train then approaching Shohola at twice that speed.
A mile west of Shohola lay a long, sharply curved cut called locally the King and 
Fuller's Cut from the contractors who had dug it. Track visibility in the deep cut was little 
better than 150 feet. There, without warning, the two engines met. A survivor described 
that meeting as a tremendous, crashing roar, with the engines rearing up " high in the air, 
face to face against each other, like giants grappling." The crash '' was followed by a 
second or two of awful silence and then the air was filled by most appalling shrikes and 
wails and cries of anguish."
The impact telescoped the leading prison car into a space of little more than six 
feet; all four guards and all but one of 38 prisoners were killed, most of them horribly 
mangled. The succeeding cars suffered proportionately less, but when survivors and the 
townspeople who hurried to the scene had laid out the bodies, some of them hastily 
pieced together from bloody fragments, the toll of the dead came to 51 prisoners and 19 
of their blue-coated guards. In addition, of the civilian train crews, the fireman and 
brakeman of the coal train and the engineer and fireman of the Prisoner train all perished. 
This was not the final total; many of the 123 injured died within the next few hours.
The authorities acted promptly. A coroner's inquest was held at Shohola and 
strangely though the criminal carelessness that had caused the slaughter was well known, 
everyone connected with the disaster was exonerated. Duff Kent was not molested; in 
fact, while the victims of his drunken stupidity lay dead or pain-wracked from their 
injuries, he callously attended a dance that night at nearby Hawley. Next day, however, 
he disappeared, never to be heard of again.
The railroad company took over the sad task of mass burial. A local undertaker 
supplied individual pine boxes for the Union dead; the Confederates were buried four in a 
box. A great trench 76 feet long, 8 feet wide, and 6 feet deep was dug the night of the 
disaster between the railroad and the river200 yards away. In this were placed the 72 
Confederates then dead. They were buried in their gray uniforms, their feet toward the 
river.
For 47 years the last sleep of these Southerners in a alien soil was undisturbed 
save by the river floods which periodically carried away some of the bones. Then in 1911 
an act of Congress provided for reinterment of the remains in the Woodlawn National 
Military Cemetery at Elmira. On Tuesday, June 8, 1911, after three days of labor, the 
removal was completed. A number of relics-knives, pens, ink bottles, daguerreotypes, 
uniform decorations, and the like were turned over to the local historical society.
Traces of the tragedy have long since been obliterated, but local historians still 
seek the answers to two questions; What became of the author of the disaster, Duff Kent? 
What happened to the five prisoners who escaped in the confusion of the wreck? 
Somewhere in northeastern Pennsylvania or adjoining New York, it is believed. Are the 
descendants of at least one who was known to have worked in a coal mine and later lived 
at Matamoras. But what of the others ? Did they find their way back to fight in the 
South's last battles, or did they begin a new life in a northern land? 

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to 
collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we 
will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and 
are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the 
details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage 
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between 
members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... 
you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the 
"Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim

IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE 
SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen 
names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their "goodness" 
and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....

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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the 
Sultana on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 
other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this 
disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr 
grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of Conrad in 
the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the night the Sultana 
went down.
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse

{{{Pam}}} - check out the websites in last week's Fireside 

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GFS Jim is looking for the words to a traditional Irish tune "My Own Native Land". 
While he has the song on a couple of CD's, there are a few lines where he just can't 
understand the words

Any help out there for "our" Jim???????

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From: JCHovermal

Could anyone help me with this one? My great grandfather James A. Furman Truett was 
enlisted into the 14th SC Infantry in Aug.1861 in a town called Lightwood Knot Springs. 
Does anyone know where that was?

Susan Truett Hovermale
Mt. Pleasant,SC

{{{{Susan}}}} Here's hoping some one of the Civil War History "Faithful" can help. 
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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, 
New
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who 
many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we 
can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, 
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...

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GFS TEG has a complete list of the Confederate and Union burials at the Woodlawn 
Cemetery in Elmira, NY. If you would like a "look-up" send him an email at GFS 
TEG@aol.com

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From: GFS Gary

Confederate Research Sources 
SKU: 9946 
The Ancestry.com Price: ON SALE! $8.95 
Regular Price: $15.95 Savings of 44%!!! 

Confederate Research Sources: A Guide to Archive Collections by James C. Neagles 
Finding and using Confederate records can be problematic at best. In his 
book,Confederated Research Sources, James C. Neagles seeks to eliminate many of the 
prolems that accompany searching for ancestors that participted actively in the 
Confederacy. This book will save you from countless hours of searching by leading you 
directly to the records you need. It is an invaluable resource for any one who has 
Confederate ancestry.

{{{{{Gary}}}}} Thanks so much for the info. It is indeed a good one for those with 
Confederate ancestry. Check out http://www.ancestry.com and look in their "Shop" 
then type in the title of the book. Unknown how long it will be "on sale".

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From: Phreyor
Hello friends! I would like to know about the Veterans Reserve Corps (VRC), 
stationed at Saint Louis in 1864. What is it and what was its purpose? I had a ggg-
Grandfather in it. Thanks for the great newsletter. I look forward to it every week. 
RFS.

Phreyor - got your request! We'll see what the reader's come up with. In the mean time 
I'll take a look. I haven't had any experience with them to date.
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From: GFS TEG
The Veteran Reserve Corps (VRC) was made up of members who still had time left on 
their enlistments when their Regiments went home. Example - all the men who joined the 
14th Brooklyn in 62 and 63 became members of the 5th VETERANS RESERVE 
CORPS. After the men of 61 went back to Brooklyn.
Tom

Thanks Tom for the feedback to Phreyor......
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I'm sharing the following note with all of you... Please keep Don and all our servicemen 
in your prayers!

From: JETFLYR2

Unsubscribe :(

I'm moving off AOL after 5 years, new e-mail address is dalongs@earthlink.net
PLEASE keep sending the fireside newsletter to my new address. Unfortunately, I won't 
be able to make the chats anymore, whenever I do happen to be in country. You folks 
take care and keep pressing on in keeping our important heritage "alive"- Regards, Don 
Long

{{{{{Don}}}}} We're leavin' "JETFLYR2" on the distribution till AOL tells us you 
aren't here anymore, but we've also added your new address. "Iffen" you can "borrow" 
AOL from a friend sometime, drop in to see us. You take care my friend and God Bless. 


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From: FI WATROUS
Can anyone help this fellow?

"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt.
From: Trimmerrw@aol.com
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but 
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt. 
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903.

"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT

OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking 
about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our 
ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, 
said it so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to 
address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as 
we know it).

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In 
addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters 
from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the 
Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the 
end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered 
into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the 
distribution for this "Weekly Fireside." 

AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members 
bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, 
should you desire to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a 
line and we will comply with your wishes "poste- haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events***** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH 
Amy, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :) 

01/27/2000 - "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided by 
IllinoisCW. Frank has provided a great story which GFS Jayne will "read" to us .... 
Don't miss this one.

02/03/2000 - "The Angel of Marye's Heights" by GFS TEG. This is indeed an incredible 
story. A must see!!!! When the story is finished we will have OPEN CHAT

02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.

02/17/2000

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