February 2000 Weekly Fireside Newsletters
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 06 February 2000
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"Our Mission" Statement: To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable online
environment with as many helpful and reliable resources as possible.
Well..... if you weren't with us Thursday night, you sure did miss a great story.
You could have heard a pin drop and some sniffles too. I'll try to get it posted in the Files
Library in the not too distant future. We were glad to see some new faces and well as
some old ones... Edie 157... it sure was good to see you again, it had been a long time. I
received a note from DeeW84 today.... she's still having some health problems, so you
all say some prayers and send them her way. Dee, we love ya..
HELP!!! I need lots of help from you, the faithful. As most of you know I write
a column for the http://www.stategensites.com website called Bits of Blue and Gray. The
website is being redesigned and a new feature is going to be added... a Trivia "question
of the day". Each day there will be a trivia question and then the answer will appear the
next day with a new question.... SOOOOoooo, PLEASE send questions and answers, as
many as you'd like, to GFS [email protected] or [email protected] and put "Trivia" in the
subject line... that way I can pick them out right away. Thanks!!!!!!
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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you
to feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you would
desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use "keyword=roots" to get
to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed by selecting History and
Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I mentioned; Civil War Files, and
Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New Genealogy Forum Web Site is being
constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War History SIG will have an area to link to our
Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When
this is complete then anyone (not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material.
We'll be sure to let you know when you can access it.
This coming Thursday will be our very special Songs, Letters and Poems night.
Please join us. You won't want to miss it.
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU
TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME
AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
For your information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG
gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a
"Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give
you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter,
then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your
screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with
unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't
subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like
to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any
sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a
requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room:D
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we
didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer
the mail :D
Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," after
which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files
Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." Lectures
and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center"
under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually
get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library
Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters".
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From: [email protected] (Kevin Frye)
Hi all,
I just got back from my bi-weekly visit to Andersonville and found a new piece of
information some of you might be interested in. I had been asked by a few of you about
Guards at Andersonville. I had also been told that NO remains were removed from the
site. Well, It is true that there were NO prisoner remains moved from the site but I have
recently found there were 130 guards who died during the operation of the prison camp.
These soldiers remains were removed and reburied in the Oakgrove Cemetery in
Amdercus Georgia about 10 miles South of Andersonville. I havent been to the cemetery
as yet, but I did get a list of those soldiers from the fine Rangers at Andersonville today.
Of the 130 ....38 were are marked as UNKNOWNS . Here is a list of the ones who were
reburied at Oakgrove.
The information I have here is all there is. Some , only names, Some have company
regiment and state.....The last number is the grave number...
When I get to the cemetery in the next few weeks....I hope to extend my grave photo
offer....
ED. NOTE: Kevin had included a list of the the soldiers from the Rangers at
Andersonville, but my space restraints do not permit me to include it. If you need the
information, either email Kevin (address below) or me GFS [email protected] and it will
be emailed to you. Thanks!!
Andersonville lookups From: [email protected] (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as
well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>
ED. NOTE: Please visit his website.. it is awesome..
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
From GFH Amy
97th Regiment PA Volunteers
http://www.users.fast.net/~mdolfan/97thregt.html
{{{{{Amy}}}}} partner!! keep on sendin' them in!!!!
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From GFS Gary:
Civil War in Southeast Kentucky
http://www.rootsweb.com/~seky/civilwar/index.html
Welcome to the Center of Military History
http://www.army.mil/CMH-PG/default.htm
Searchable and inter library loanable
Did a search for CW titles - they have them
the Online Bookshelf - Civil War.
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/online/Bookshelves/CW.htm
Ohio Civil War Genealogy Journal
http://www.ogs.org/civil.htm
{{{{{Gary}}}}} I don't where you keep finding them, but keep them coming!!!
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From NEVassau
Tip of the Iceberg: Society publishes Popular Resource Online:
Wisconsin Civil War Rosters
What used to require a trip to the Society library in Madison now can be done via
the Internet from anywhere in the world. This, because the Society recently published on
at http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/roster the "Roster of Wisconsin Volunteers, War of the
Rebellion, 1861-1865", a popular resource for genealogists, military historians, and
others. The roster describes the service of all soldiers known to have served in
Wisconsin's Civil War regiments. Patrons have responded enthusiastically to this new
service.
The roster will prove only the tip of the iceberg of the Society's plans to digitize
rare books and basic references from its collections. Michael Edmonds, acting library
director, says the online version "is just the first in a series of full-text web sources that
will appear over the next few years as the library and archives begin to provide public
access to their holdings in a digital fashion."
Each page of the online book appears on the computer screen as a facsimile of the
original. Special software, which users may download to their computer for free, enables
readers to print single pages.
A few years ago, in anticipation of technological advances and ever-increasing
reliance on the Internet as an electronic resource, the Society formed a partnership with
Northern Micrographics of La Crosse. NMI scans reference works and rare books and
manuscripts in the Society's collections, making acid-free reprints available to libraries
and providing the Society with the electronic version for posting on its wed site.
Generous financial support has enabled the Society to make this initial foray into
providing digital access to the library and archives' collections.
{{{Eileen}}} Thanks for the info and I'm sure WI researchers thank you also!!!
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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr:
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just might be
of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this unusual
event. Best to all, Ted
And The Band Played On
July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the University's
sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000.
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University,
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 miles
southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville).
Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville.
Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, Kentucky,
and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing to participate or
seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at [email protected] or
Bob Baccus at [email protected].
For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-5211--
office or at [email protected], or Dr. David McCullough, director of bands at
Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at [email protected].
Marc C. Whitt
Vice President for Advancement
Campbellsville University
1 University Drive
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799
(270) 789-5211-office phone
(270) 789-5095-office fax
"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If any of
you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" information to get
"your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a hurry and this is a "first time"
gathering of this nature.... :-) I'm also going to leave this notice in for a few weeks.
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SOMETHING SPECIAL!!...
THE WAR PRAYER
by Mark Twain
It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was
on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands
playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and sputtering; on every
hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering
wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide
avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and
sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by;
nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the
deepest deeps of their hearts and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with
cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the
pastors preached devotion to flag and county and invoked the God of Battles, beseeching
His aid in our good cause in outpouring of fervid eloquence which moved every listener.
It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half-dozen rash spirits that ventured to
disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern
and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight
and offended no more in that way.
Sunday morning came - next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was
filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams - visions of
the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the
flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! -
then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of
glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors
and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win
for the flag or failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war
chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an
organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing
eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation - God the all-terrible!
Thou who ordainest, Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword! Then came the "long"
prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and
beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was that an ever-merciful and
benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers and aid, comfort,
and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle
and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident,
invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to flag and
county imperishable honor and glory -
An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his
eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his
head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face
unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he
made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there
waiting. With shut eyes the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued his moving
prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms,
grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!" The
stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside - which the startled minister did -
and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with
solemn eyes in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said: "I come
from the throne of Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the
stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His shepherd and
will grant it if such be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its
import - that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in
that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of - except he pause and think.
"God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it
one prayer? No, it is two - one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him
Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this - keep it in
mind.
If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a
curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your
crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some
neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.
"You have heard your servant's prayer - the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God
to put into words the other part of it - that part which the paster, and also you in your
hearts, fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was
so! You heard these words: `Grant us the victory, O Lord our God! That is sufficient. The
whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not
necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned
results which follow victory - must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening
spirit of God the Father fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to
put it into words. LISTEN!
"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle - be Thou
near them! With them, in spirit, we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved
firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds
with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot
dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded,
writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us
to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn
them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their
desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the
icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of
the grave and denied it - for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight
their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with
their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the
spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and
friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. AMEN.
After a pause: "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most
High waits." It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no
sense in what he said.
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to
collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we
will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and
are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the
details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between
members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as....
you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the
"Fireside"!!
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE
SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!!
Thanks!! - The Editors
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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen
names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their "goodness"
and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....
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GFS Jim is looking for the words to a traditional Irish tune "My Own Native Land".
While he has the song on a couple of CD's, there are a few lines where he just can't
understand the words
Any help out there for "our" Jim???????
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From: JCHovermal
Could anyone help me with this one? My great grandfather James A. Furman Truett was
enlisted into the 14th SC Infantry in Aug.1861 in a town called Lightwood Knot Springs.
Does anyone know where that was?
Susan Truett Hovermale
Mt. Pleasant,SC
{{{{Susan}}}} Here's hoping some one of the Civil War History "Faithful" can help.
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From: [email protected] (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill,
New Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.
"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who
many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we
can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information,
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
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GFS TEG has a complete list of the Confederate and Union burials at the Woodlawn
Cemetery in Elmira, NY. If you would like a "look-up" send him an email at GFS
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] (Kevin Frye)
For those who can travel to Andersonville , I just wanted to let you know of what is
happening there Saturday March 4 and Sunday March 5. There is going to be a living
history weekend at the Stockade. Heres whats happening...
Andersonville revisited.
Andersonville revisited offers visitors the opportunity to see and experiance what life was
like at the infamous Civil War Prison Camp. Living historians portraying prisoners of
war and guards.
Various activities throughout the day including rations issue, escape and punishment,
drill, demonstrations and more.
Dates and times:::::::
Saturday March 4
10:00 a.m. Prisoner arrival and shebag building
10:30 a.m. Guard drill and demonstration
11:00 a.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison )
11:30 a.m. Guard Inspection of prison
12:00 Noon Issuing of rations
1:00 p.m. Arrival of " FRESH FISH " & guard inspection of prison
1:30 p.m. Guard Drill and demonstration
2:00 p.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison )
2:30 p.m. Guard inspection of prison
3:00 p.m. Escape and punishment
3:30 p.m. Guard Drill and Demonstration
4:00 p.m. RAIDER ATTACK
4:30 p.m. Artillery Talk ( earthwork-North end of prison )
5:00 p.m. Park Gates close
6:00 p.m. Park gates reopen
6:30 p.m. Lantern tours begin. Tours start every 20 minutes and last approxamately 45
minutes. The last tour will begin at 9:10 p.m. Reservations are required for the Lantern
tours.Reservations can be made beginning February 14 2000 by calling (912) 924-0343,
ectensions 201 or 202.
The following tips are helpful tips for those attending the Lantern tours,
* Please do not be late
*Dress for the weather and wear sturdy shoes. The terrain at the prison site is uneven and
it will be dark.
* A flashlight would be helpful for use in the parking area to the beginning point of the
tour. Flashlights will not be used during the tour.
* Lantern tours are not appropriate for pre-school children
* The main park entrance road will be open for the evening lantern tours at 6:00 p.m.
Follow the signs for parking.
I already have reservations for the 7:30 tour
They have had candle light tours of the cemetery but this one is only the prison site.
Sunday March 5
10:00 a.m. Shebang building
10:30 a.m. Guard drill and demonstration
11:00 a.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of the prison )
11:30 a.m. Guard inspection of the prison
12:00 Noon Issuing of rations
1:00 p.m. Arrival of " Fresh Fish & inspection of the prison
1:30 p.m. Guard inspection of prison
2:00 p.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison
2:30 p.m. Guard drill and demonstration
3:00 p.m. Escape and Punishment
3:30 p.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison )
4:00 p.m. RAIDER ATTACK
5:00 p.m. Park Gates Close
{{{{{Kevin}}}}} Boy, sure would like to be there!!!!!! Thanks for the heads up!!! If
any of you can go.... Keep an eye out for Kevin!!!
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From: FVJEB
Thank you so much for sending stories,appreciate it. My daughter called just before
10..... Again thank you Flo
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From: IllinoisCW
Thank you very much for sending this.
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From: NDennisF
Thanks so much ! this was a great suprise to me that night I stumbled into the room!!
Keep it up !
Linda
{{{{{Flo, Frank and Linda}}}}} Sure am glad you all enjoyed GFS TEG's "The Angel
of Marye's Heights" story. It is definitely a "keeper"
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From: ZOOM UP
When I am able to join them, I thoroughly enjoy the Civil War chats that you and the
others host on Thursday and Friday evenings. I just wish I had the time to be present for
all of them. You, Jim, et al, do a very superior job keeping them interesting and flowing
along with such enjoyable material.
It has appeared to me, when I have been present, that stories from the Northern (i.e.,
Yankee, in my parlance) side have been more prevalent for some reason with few from
the Confederate side. But I guess that's OK; the Yankees did win the war and are entitled
to braggin' rights.
So I have a book I would like to send you in hopes that a few of the items it
contains may prompt a few stories from the Southern point of view...
{{{{{Gordon}}}}} I've only included part of your note as you can see... but I would
like to tell the "faithful" that you did indeed send me the book and an incredible book it
is!! I'm making copies of as many of the letters and I can before I return it.
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From: FI WATROUS
Can anyone help this fellow?
"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt.
From: [email protected]
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt.
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903.
"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....
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From: JRose10700
Maybe this is an oldie that everyone but me has heard, but I think it is funny!
And probably typical. I recall taking a bus tour at Vicksburg, and that soft Mississippi
drawl pointing out all the pertinent sites -- paeans of praise for the Confederates and
contempt for the Yankees.
Hmmm, wonder how it is at Gettysburg where the bus drivers probably are all Yanks?
Don't mean to stir up trouble!! (much, that is!)
anyway, the joke
A bus driver is conducting a tour of famous Civil War battle sites.
"Here," he points out at one spot, "is where the Southern troops routed
a whole regiment of Yankees. Over there, the Rebs wiped out a whole
platoon of Yanks. Down about a mile, there's another valley where we
captured a thousand Union soldiers."
A tourist says, "Didn't the North ever win a battle?"
"Yes ma'am. But not while I'm driving this bus."
{{{{{Joan}}}} Thanks for touching my funny bone!!
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking
about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our
ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment,
said it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to
address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as
we know it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In
addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters
from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the
Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the
end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.
As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered
into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the
distribution for this "Weekly Fireside."
AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members
bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason,
should you desire to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a
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Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****
Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH
Amy, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :)
01/06/2000 - Can you believe it's 2000? Well, we're going to leave this OPEN CHAT so
you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer
them...........
02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.
02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose
02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-)
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 13 February 2000
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"Our Mission" Statement: To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable online
environment with as many helpful and reliable resources as possible.
WOW What a night!!!!! There were some pretty powerful letters and poems read
Thursday night. (You will find two of them later in the newsletter) Since this will
probably be my last newsletter for awhile... (I think Jim will be taking it back next
week).... I would just like to take this opportunity to thank all of you who so generously
share yourselves, your letters and poems with us. We truly appreciate it and it's what
makes our American Civil War History SIG (Special Interest Group) so special. Because
of all of you, GFS Jim, GFS TEG, GFH Amy and I try even harder to make Thursday
nights around the Fireside a place you want to come to enjoy the comraderie of the
"faithful" and to listen to stories of our ancestors, the men who fought for what they
believed in, whether they were Yankees or Rebels.
ANNOUNCEMENT #1:
You all are the first to know... and you get a chance to take a sneak peak as the award
isn't usually added to the website until Tuesday The following website has been given
THE SITE OF THE MONTH AWARD by Uncle Hiram...
The American Civil War Homepage < http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/warweb.html >
You can read what Unk thinks about the website by going to:
http://www.stategensites.com/unclehiram/site_feb2000.asp
ANNOUNCEMENT #2
The StateGenSites.com website has a new look!!! Be sure to check out the Bits of Blue
and Gray Homepage http://www.stategensites.com/bitsofblueandgray/ A daily trivia
question has been added. The answer will appear the following day along with a brand
new question. I want to thank AJWRJW, IllinoisCW and TUBES14 for sending
questions and answers to me for inclusion on the site.
Another new thing the website "guru" has added are message boards where you can
"talk" to the various columnists. There you may ask questions, leave suggestions for
trivia questions, make comments... or just say hi. Please stop by.
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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you
to feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you would
desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use "keyword=roots" to get
to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed by selecting History and
Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I mentioned; Civil War Files, and
Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New Genealogy Forum Web Site is being
constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War History SIG will have an area to link to our
Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When
this is complete then anyone (not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material.
We'll be sure to let you know when you can access it.
This coming Thursday will be A Treatise by Joan Rose. It's a neat story and
you'll surely want to hear it. We'll all be looking for you and as GFS Jim says:
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU
TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME
AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
For your information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG
gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a
"Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give
you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter,
then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your
screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with
unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't
subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like
to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any
sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a
requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room:D
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we
didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer
the mail :D
Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," after
which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files
Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." Lectures
and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center"
under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually
get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library
Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters".
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From: [email protected] (Kevin Frye)
Hi all,
I just got back from my bi-weekly visit to Andersonville and found a new piece of
information some of you might be interested in. I had been asked by a few of you about
Guards at Andersonville. I had also been told that NO remains were removed from the
site. Well, It is true that there were NO prisoner remains moved from the site but I have
recently found there were 130 guards who died during the operation of the prison camp.
These soldiers remains were removed and reburied in the Oakgrove Cemetery in
Amdercus Georgia about 10 miles South of Andersonville. I havent been to the cemetery
as yet, but I did get a list of those soldiers from the fine Rangers at Andersonville today.
Of the 130 ....38 were are marked as UNKNOWNS . Here is a list of the ones who were
reburied at Oakgrove.
The information I have here is all there is. Some , only names, Some have company
regiment and state.....The last number is the grave number...
When I get to the cemetery in the next few weeks....I hope to extend my grave photo
offer....
ED. NOTE: Kevin had included a list of the the soldiers from the Rangers at
Andersonville, but my space restraints do not permit me to include it. If you need the
information, either email Kevin (address below) or me GFS [email protected] and it will
be emailed to you. Thanks!!
Andersonville lookups From: [email protected] (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as
well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>
ED. NOTE: Please visit his website.. it is awesome..
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
From GFS Jayne
Civil War Overview
http://www.civilwarhome.com/overview.htm
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From IrishInCal
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9787/military.html
Grace - I have been cruising this site all day. What a "Wealth".....
Jim
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From PABorn55
Civil War Rosters, Mercer Co., KY Genealogy
http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymercer/CivilWar/Union/
The Civil War Reenactors Home Page
http://www.cwreenactors.com/
{{{{{PABorn55}}}}}} thanks!!!!! keep those eyes on the lookout for more sites <G>
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From GFS Gary:
This is from Cyndi's List - Whats New
Civil War Rosters-Michigan
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw-mi.html
Civil War Records and Rosters for Black Hawk County Iowa
http://www.iowa-counties.com/blackhawk/civilwar/index.shtml
Iowa during the Civil War
http://www.iowa-counties.com/civilwar/
A Brief Introduction to Genealogy and the American Civil War
http://www.outfitters.com/illinois/history/civil/cwgeneal.html
Civil War Index Page
http://www.janke.washcoll.edu/civilwar/civilwar.htm
American Civil War Alphabetic List of Battles
http://www.californiacentralcoast.com/commun/map/civil/statepic/alpha.html
{{{{{Gary}}}}} Just keep'um coming <G>
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From Holm Hogs
Book on Missouri Civil War Soldiers
http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/civilwar.html
{{{{{Deanna}}}}} How nice to hear from you.. thanks for the website, there are sure
a bunch o' books listed on it!!!!!
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From: AJWRJW
If you're looking for some Civil War Clothing, you might want to try the following
website
A & M Historic Creations
http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/amhistcreat/welcome.html
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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr:
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just might be
of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this unusual
event. Best to all, Ted
And The Band Played On
July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the University's
sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000.
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University,
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 miles
southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville).
Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville.
Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, Kentucky,
and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing to participate or
seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at [email protected] or
Bob Baccus at [email protected].
For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-5211--
office or at [email protected], or Dr. David McCullough, director of bands at
Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at [email protected].
Marc C. Whitt
Vice President for Advancement
Campbellsville University
1 University Drive
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799
(270) 789-5211-office phone
(270) 789-5095-office fax
"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If any of
you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" information to get
"your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a hurry and this is a "first time"
gathering of this nature.... :-) I'm also going to leave this notice in for a few weeks.
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SOMETHING SPECIAL!!...
ED. Note: I received the following from the [email protected] mail list,
In searching Clark Co MS cemetery records, I ([email protected]) found this family
who lost five sons to the Civil War. Very interesting inscriptions on the headstones......
CLARK COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI
In memory of Erastus, third son of Wiley & Jane McNeill;
born Dec. 18, 1841 - died Jan. 14, 1862
"A soldier once young, strong and brave who marched frulessly to his countries cause lies
here. Though stout and bold, and vigorous, scorching fevers soon robbed of these and
took him in the flower of manhood. To dwell in realms of bliss with Christ the sinners
friend.
In memory of Wiley, second son of Wiley & Jane McNeill;
born Jun. 29, 1836 - died Feb. 7, 1862
"Faithful to the call of his county he went, but desease had unfit him for service severe
and laborious; So, to his home he returned and a few week remained, and then the Lord
relieved him of desease and made him a soldier in Heaven."
In memory of Adin, First son of Wiley & Jane McNeill;
born Sept 24, 1833 - died Sept 20, 1862
"Dear brother, too hard it seemed that just at the close of the struggle in which thou hast
striven so bravely and the victory won from the foe, flying balls they life which promised
so well should take but thus it was. And as the sun in silence hid his face and the enemy
in confusion fled, and the den of battle lulled into stillness three shots they body pierced.
And ended the life of one of whom we were proud and sent thy spirit to realms of glory."
In memory of Malcom, fifth son of Wiley & Jane McNeill;
born Jan. 9, 1946 - died Sept 26, 1862
"Anxious a soldier to become and march to the field of battle to fight for his countries
rights. In boyhood he hastened to the front, but, ah, to his sick bed-side sad news soon
brought a weeping father and mother to witness death lay his cold hand upon him and
bear him way to dwell, we trust with Jesus our redeemer in heaven."
In memory of William, fourth son of Wiley & Jane McNeill;
born Dec. 17, 1848 - died May 21, 1864
"When but a youth with rosy cheeks his county call he answered. Bravely he stood the
smoking musketry and marched from the field of battle without the enemies mark upon
him. But alas! when for from a mother's tender care, amid stranger in a strange
land. Desease laid his unkind hand upon him. And placed him in a soldiers grave to sleep
and rest in the arms of Jesus."
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SOMETHING ELSE SPECIAL!!
ED Note: IllinoisCW sent me the following set of 2 letters written home by brothers.
They were read into the room Thurs night, but I thought I'd share them with those of you
who couldn't make it. There were 2 other "last letters" read also. They really make you
think.
Letter #1
I am sorry to inform you ....
Privates John (Co K) & James (Co B) Adkinson
95th Illinois
Natchez Missizsippi August the 20 / 63
Well dear brother i Set down to write a nuther letter to you to let you no that me
and James is well and i hope thease few lines will fiend you the Same as it leaves me at
present. well dear Brother you sed that you thought that i Sed you cud have that Steer for
what I ode you. Well dear Brother i dont no i have for got wether i did or not but it is all
rite and i think that you got a good price for im and dear Brother when i cum home you
and me will make it all write. well Edward if you no how much i ow you i wish you
wood write and let me no how much it is and i want you to no how how my colt is getting
a long and i want to know wether you have got im broke in yet and Edward you can have
in to ride when you go to See the girls. well dear Brother i all most for got to tell you
when i received your letter. Dear brother i received your kind letter August the 19th and i
was glad to hear that you was all well. well dear Brother i think you can write pruty
good. you can write now prutineer as good as i cud when i left home and if you keep a
writen you will improve in a little while. dear Brother ask robert if he pade old Mr Tirner
that that i ode im. he sed he wood when i left home. if he did ef write and let me no.
Edward i rote a letter to you Just a little wile before i got this letter. dear brother i was on
picket yesterday and last night wee ad a good old time. wee ad all the bread and milk
wee cud eat and wee honley pade 10 cents a quart for it. dear brother you sed that you
think if i shud come home that odsen cud jump sum ire than he did before. i wood like to
see obsen now and little henry and my 3 Sisters. well dear mother i must tell you the
dream that i drempt won dark and raney nite when i was Sleeping all a lone in a plase that
i bilt in sum boards, well i will tell you the dream now. dear mother i drempt that you
was dead and i thought i was on guard and the boys was talking a bout their folks and i
thought i felt very bad a bout it and i thought it was dark and raney and i thought i sed to
the boys well boys this is a ard life to lead but i thought that mother was dead and i
thought that i ad no home now and when i waked up it was thunern and litenen and ranen
and dark as it cud bee and i razed up and thought it was so for a while and when i found
out that it was onley a dream i tell you i was glad dear Mother. this what i drempt. dear
father i wish i ad that tobacco and dear mother i wish i ad them cirence for they wood go
good, Dear Brother i was glad of the Postage stamps that you Sent me. it is a ranen to
day. Give my kind love to father and mother and to robert and all the rest of them and
kizs little henry and the three little girls for me and please write Soone as you get this. So
now i must bring my letter to a close. So good day
Edward Y Atkinson from John H Adkinson Co K - 95 Regiment Infantry
Letter #2
Natchez August 26 1863
My dear father and mother I am happy to inform you that I am well at presant and hope
this will find you all the same. I am sorry to inform you that johnny is drowned in the
river. he was - him and five or six of the other boys to take the things off the boat that
was brought down from Vicksburg and he came to his diner and was all right and went
back again and the boys seen him about three o'clock and then did not see him after that.
they hunted all through the boat and could not find him. this was on the 24 aug and i was
on picket that day and dident know anny thing about it until the next day and then I
hunted all over for him and could not find him and the next morning he was found. he
floated ashore and we got him out. all his pockets was picked. He had about twenty four
dollars in his pocket but it was all gone and we cant tell wether he fell over board himself
or wether some body knocked him over but we buried him the best we could. the boys
all feels bad about it and i feel bad but you know mother we cant help it and it dont do
anny good to grieve about it as it would do you harm. I send my love to you all. Write as
soon as you get this.
From your son James to my dear father and mother Joseph and Mary Adkinson.
NOTE from IllinoisCW
John was 19 years, 10 months and 6 days old
James died of dysentary at the regimental hospital in Vicksburg on December 21st, 1863
- 4 months later.
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to
collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we
will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and
are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the
details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage
involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between
members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as....
you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the
"Fireside"!!
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE
SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!!
Thanks!! - The Editors
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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen
names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their "goodness"
and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....
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GFS Jim is BEGGING for the words to a traditional Irish tune "My Own Native Land".
While he has the song on a couple of CD's, there are a few lines where he just can't
understand the words
PLEASE..... Any help out there for "our" Jim?????? (he's getting desparate) LOL
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From: JCHovermal
Could anyone help me with this one? My great grandfather James A. Furman Truett was
enlisted into the 14th SC Infantry in Aug.1861 in a town called Lightwood Knot Springs.
Does anyone know where that was?
Susan Truett Hovermale
Mt. Pleasant,SC
{{{{Susan}}}} Here's hoping some one of the Civil War History "Faithful" can help.
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From: [email protected] (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill,
New Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.
"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who
many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we
can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information,
Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
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GFS TEG has a complete list of the Confederate and Union burials at the Woodlawn
Cemetery in Elmira, NY. If you would like a "look-up" send him an email at GFS
[email protected]
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From: [email protected] (Kevin Frye)
For those who can travel to Andersonville , I just wanted to let you know of what is
happening there Saturday March 4 and Sunday March 5. There is going to be a living
history weekend at the Stockade. Heres whats happening...
Andersonville revisited.
Andersonville revisited offers visitors the opportunity to see and experiance what life was
like at the infamous Civil War Prison Camp. Living historians portraying prisoners of
war and guards.
Various activities throughout the day including rations issue, escape and punishment,
drill, demonstrations and more.
Dates and times:::::::
Saturday March 4
10:00 a.m. Prisoner arrival and shebag building
10:30 a.m. Guard drill and demonstration
11:00 a.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison )
11:30 a.m. Guard Inspection of prison
12:00 Noon Issuing of rations
1:00 p.m. Arrival of " FRESH FISH " & guard inspection of prison
1:30 p.m. Guard Drill and demonstration
2:00 p.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison )
2:30 p.m. Guard inspection of prison
3:00 p.m. Escape and punishment
3:30 p.m. Guard Drill and Demonstration
4:00 p.m. RAIDER ATTACK
4:30 p.m. Artillery Talk ( earthwork-North end of prison )
5:00 p.m. Park Gates close
6:00 p.m. Park gates reopen
6:30 p.m. Lantern tours begin. Tours start every 20 minutes and last approxamately 45
minutes. The last tour will begin at 9:10 p.m. Reservations are required for the Lantern
tours.Reservations can be made beginning February 14 2000 by calling (912) 924-0343,
ectensions 201 or 202.
The following tips are helpful tips for those attending the Lantern tours,
* Please do not be late
*Dress for the weather and wear sturdy shoes. The terrain at the prison site is uneven and
it will be dark.
* A flashlight would be helpful for use in the parking area to the beginning point of the
tour. Flashlights will not be used during the tour.
* Lantern tours are not appropriate for pre-school children
* The main park entrance road will be open for the evening lantern tours at 6:00 p.m.
Follow the signs for parking.
I already have reservations for the 7:30 tour
They have had candle light tours of the cemetery but this one is only the prison site.
Sunday March 5
10:00 a.m. Shebang building
10:30 a.m. Guard drill and demonstration
11:00 a.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of the prison )
11:30 a.m. Guard inspection of the prison
12:00 Noon Issuing of rations
1:00 p.m. Arrival of " Fresh Fish & inspection of the prison
1:30 p.m. Guard inspection of prison
2:00 p.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison
2:30 p.m. Guard drill and demonstration
3:00 p.m. Escape and Punishment
3:30 p.m. Artillery Talk ( Earthwork-North end of prison )
4:00 p.m. RAIDER ATTACK
5:00 p.m. Park Gates Close
{{{{{Kevin}}}}} Boy, sure would like to be there!!!!!! Thanks for the heads up!!! If
any of you can go.... Keep an eye out for Kevin!!!
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From: Music90777
I have an Evening job now if I am not here I am at work,.
Cyndy
{{{{{Cyndy}}}}} We'll keep you on the distribution of the Weekly Fireside so you can
keep "tabs" on us <G>
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From: JOTROY
Have not told u lately but it should be said that I truly appreciate you emailing the
Fireside weekly..Thanks so Much!!
Jotroy
{{{{{Jotroy}}}}} You just don't know how good it makes us feel to hear words like
yours. They let us know we're doin' our "job" right. Thank you!!
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From: Genealhunt
Thank you very much for sending me the Marye's Heights story, parts 1 & 2. I really
appreciate it.
Kathy
{{{{{Kathy}}}}} You're more than welcome. It is a truly special story.
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From: GFS Gary
The Monmouth County Genealogy Society will host a Civil War
Day at the Fort Monmouth facility on 29 April 2000 featuring
speakers, war games, and other activities. For information,
contact: [email protected]."
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From: FI WATROUS
Can anyone help this fellow?
"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt.
From: [email protected]
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt.
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903.
"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....
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From: JRose10700
Maybe this is an oldie that everyone but me has heard, but I think it is funny!
And probably typical. I recall taking a bus tour at Vicksburg, and that soft Mississippi
drawl pointing out all the pertinent sites -- paeans of praise for the Confederates and
contempt for the Yankees.
Hmmm, wonder how it is at Gettysburg where the bus drivers probably are all Yanks?
Don't mean to stir up trouble!! (much, that is!)
anyway, the joke
A bus driver is conducting a tour of famous Civil War battle sites.
"Here," he points out at one spot, "is where the Southern troops routed
a whole regiment of Yankees. Over there, the Rebs wiped out a whole
platoon of Yanks. Down about a mile, there's another valley where we
captured a thousand Union soldiers."
A tourist says, "Didn't the North ever win a battle?"
"Yes ma'am. But not while I'm driving this bus."
{{{{{Joan}}}} Thanks for touching my funny bone!!
HI JOAN: The answer to your question about what happens on the tour here in
Gettysburg is quite simple. As one of the guides here I can tell you we do not take sides.
As we tour the field we tell you the story of the fighting and what happened here to both
sides. Our job is to try to bring the battle to life for you so that you have an understanding
of what happened here. Gettysburg is a very pretty place today but remember that on the
first 3 days of July 1863 170,00 men tryed their best to wipe each other off the face of the
Earth. I hope someday to get to take all of you on a tour of the place I love so much and
now call home.
GFS TEG
Tom
{{{{{Tom}}}}} and what a guide you are!! Your stories bring the battlefield alive
with both Yanks and Rebs.
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking
about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our
ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment,
said it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to
address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as
we know it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In
addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters
from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the
Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the
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01/06/2000 - Can you believe it's 2000? Well, we're going to leave this OPEN CHAT so
you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer
them...........
02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.
02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose
02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT
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Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 20 February 2000
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Thursday night was really special... We read the Story of Wilson's Creek written
and sent to us by our own Joan Rose. It was a grand story and Joan used her unique
writing style by making it pertinent and current to our present time. Thanks Joan :-)
A really big thanks to GFS Jayne for putting out the Weekly Fireside the past
number of weeks while I did some computer shuffling and upgrades here at home.
Jayne does such a great job keeping the information flowing :D Thanks Partner
((()))
Music: Well, I've spent about 6 weeks hunting down the lyrics to a song I've been
listening to so I could share it with you. I struck out in that category so I sat down with
my CD and listened to it about 3 hours straight, over and over to try to get the lyrics
off of the music I have. You know I'm partial to Irish and Celtic styles of music and
this one has been haunting me since I first heard it. I most recently heard it on a CD
titled "Her Infinite Variety" which is a collection of Celtic Women in Music & Song.
The song title that so grabbed me was "My Own Native Land", a traditional Irish
ballad which was recently arranged by "Cherish The Ladies" on their CD "The Back
Door" and specifically sung by "Cathie Ryan". Their CD was produced by Gabriel
Donohue and Eileen Ivers (the lady fiddler that thrilled you in Riverdance)
If you are of Irish roots this will move you like no other. And, if you're not of Irish roots
it will move you about the same way :-) Cathie Ryan has that lilting voice quality that
brings the tears to your eyes. That and the attending acoustic guitar, fiddle and tin
whistle result in something to behold .... I've rambled enough - here is the song.
Soak it in :D
My Own Native Land - Traditional
There's a dear little Isle, in the Western Ocean.
It's an island of purity, Aeolian grand.
It's name fills it's daughters, and sons with emotion.
When they are a-part, on a far distant strand.
Tis' Ireland, my country, the birthplace of heroes
The home of the preacher, warrior, and sage,
Of bards and chieftains whose names live in stories.
May they live on forever on history's page.
You once were a proud, and a glorious nation.
Your name and your fame, were known all over the world.
Til misfortune came o'er you, and sad desolation,
Your emerald banner, in slavery lay unfurled.
They tortured your children.
They spoiled your green banner.
They tried to exterminate you, long, long, long-ago.
But the Irish live somehow, like wild creeping flowers.
The faster you blossom, the quicker they seem to grow.
I love every blade, of grass green on your mountains,
Every leaf from your trees, and every rock on your strand.
I love your green valleys, and murmuring fountains.
I love you Irish Isle,
My own dear native land.
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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you to
feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in
our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you
would desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use
"keyword=roots" to get to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed
by selecting History and Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I
mentioned; Civil War Files, and Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New
Genealogy Forum Web Site is being constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War
History SIG will have an area to link to our Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters,
Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When this is complete then anyone
(not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material. We'll be sure to let you
know when you can access it.
This coming Thursday we're going to leave as OPEN CHAT so you can bring your
Civil War Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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Every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the newsletter
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday
night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check
it out. Hope these answer the mail :D
Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots,"
after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the
"Files Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files."
Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files
Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides"
when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are
posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters".
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
from GFS Gary: these are from Cyndi's list......
URL: http://Kentropolis.com/wvacw
TITLE: WV American Civil War Research Site
DESCRIPTION: Civil War site related to Confederate West Virginia
history, with links for the WV Division SCV, and the 36th Virginia Infantry.
URL: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~blanks/index.htm
TITLE: NC Co. F, 51st Regiment
DESCRIPTION: "Ashpole True Boys", Robeson County North Carolina Regiment.
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URL: http://www.crosswinds.net/~mscav/
TITLE: 38th Mississippi Mounted Infantry
DESCRIPTION: Civil War reenactment group. The page has a history of the
unit and company rolls.
URL: http://members.tripod.com/~tcc230/lacavreg.htm
TITLE: 1st Louisiana Cavalry Regiment, CSA
DESCRIPTION: History of the Regiment, Regimental Staff, Company
Commanders, Muster Rolls of all Companies,list of engagements of Regiment.
more from GFS Gary:
The Monmouth County Genealogy Society will host a Civil War
Day at the Fort Monmouth facility on 29 April 2000 featuring
speakers, war games, and other activities. For information,
contact: [email protected]."
URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw-mi.html
TITLE: Civil War Rosters-Michigan
URL: http://www.iowa-counties.com/blackhawk/civilwar/index.shtml
TITLE: Civil War Records and Rosters for Black Hawk County Iowa
URL: http://www.iowa-counties.com/civilwar/
TITLE: Iowa during the Civil War site, rosters, regimental histories, descendant
rosters, hournals, books, poetry and diaries.
from Deanne (HolmHogs):
http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/civilwar.html
Books on Missouri Civil War SoldiersPoint Lookout POW Descendants Organization
http://members.tripod.com/~PLPOW/plpow.htm
The site contains a partial list of those who died at Point Lookout
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An Announcement from Bulldogtjr:
Happy New Year to all of you folks, I have been off the air for three days due to a
modem failure but now back and ready to go. The forwarded mail herewith just
might be of interest to you, particularly you, Jim. I hope they make a videotape of this
unusual event. Best to all, Ted
And The Band Played On
July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville
University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most
significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the
University's sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000.
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University,
which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90
miles southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville).
Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band
Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville.
Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington,
Kentucky, and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing
to participate or seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at
[email protected] or Bob Baccus at [email protected].
For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-
5211--office or at [email protected], or Dr. David McCullough, director of
bands at Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at
[email protected].
Marc C. Whitt
Vice President for Advancement
Campbellsville University
1 University Drive
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799
(270) 789-5211-office phone
(270) 789-5095-office fax
"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If
any of you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact"
information to get "your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a
hurry and this is a "first time" gathering of this nature.... :-) I'm going to leave
this up a bit so everyone can mark their calendars and make arrangements
if they're interested.
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An Announcement Update from Robin............
From: QNavyWife
I told you last month I believe that I am a member of the Madison County (NY) Civil
War Round Table. We held our elections last month, and I am now officially the
secretary. Well, I was wondering if you would be able to put something in the next
Fireside about our next meeting....it will be
Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 7:30 pm
at the Chittenango (NY) American Legion Hall in Chittenango, NY.
Our presentation will be on the Sgt William C. Lilly Day celebration that was held
back in May at Woodlawn Cemetery in Syracuse, NY. I may be helping the
presenter (Sue Greenhagen) with the presentation since I was there and do know a
bit about Sgt. Lilly and the regiment he was with, the 149th NY. Anyone who is
interested is more than welcome to attend. for more info, email me!
Thanks again!
Robin
{{Robin}} Congratulations on becoming "Official" :-) We'll be sure to post
your announcement for the New York audience. By the way thanks for the
Lyric Aid. :D
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then
send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your
request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you
direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY
recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved
for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between
members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto
others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can
share them in the "Fireside"!!
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE
SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!!
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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area.
Their screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed....
Please honor their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you
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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana
on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000
other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this
disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr
grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of
Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the
night the Sultana went down.
Thanks so much!
Pam Newhouse
{{{Pam}}} - check out the websites in last week's Fireside
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From: JCHovermal
Could anyone help me with this one? My great grandfather James A. Furman Truett
was enlisted into the 14th SC Infantry in Aug.1861 in a town called Lightwood Knot
Springs. Does anyone know where that was?
Susan Truett Hovermale
Mt. Pleasant,SC
{{{{Susan}}}} Here's hoping some one of the Civil War History "Faithful" can
help.
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From: [email protected] (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.
"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the
membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of
the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for
information, Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
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GFS TEG has a complete list of the Confederate and Union burials at the
Woodlawn Cemetery in Elmira, NY. If you would like a "look-up" send him an email
at GFS [email protected]
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GFS TEG (Our own Tom is a Battlefield Guide at Gettysburg) responded to a recent query
about Gettysburg that I thought would be neat to share with you.
The answer to your question about what happens on the tour here in Gettysburg is quite simple.
As one of the guides here I can tell you we do not take sides. As we tour the field we tell you
the story of the fighting and what happened here to both sides. Our job is to try to bring the
battle to life for you so that you have an understanding of what happened here. Gettysburg is a
very pretty place today but remember that on the first 3 days of July 1863 170,00 men tried
their best to wipe each other off the face of the Earth. I hope someday to get to take all of you
on a tour of the place I love so much and now call home.
GFS TEG
Tom
{{Sir Tom}} We'll on our way :D
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From: Bulldogtjr
Life in the 1500s, something interesting to ponder.
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Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would
sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along
the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family
would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would
wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake."
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England is old and small, and they started running out of places to bury
people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones to a house
and reuse the grave. In reopening these coffins, one out of 25 coffins were
found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been
burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist
and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a
bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for
the bell. Hence on the "graveyard shift" they would know that someone was
"saved by the bell" or he was a "dead ringer."
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Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May
and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were starting to
smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
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Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the
privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the
women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was
so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying "Don't
throw the baby out with the bath water."
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Houses had thatched roofs. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath.
It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the pets... dogs, cats
and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in the roof. When it rained
it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the
roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."
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There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a
real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess
up your nice clean bed. So, they found if they made beds with big posts and
hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that problem. Hence those beautiful
big 4 poster beds with canopies. I wonder if this is where we get the saying
"Good night and don't let the bed bugs bite..."
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The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence the
saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors which would get slippery in
the winter when wet. So they spread thresh on the floor to help keep their
footing. As the winter wore on they kept adding more thresh until when you
opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was
placed at the entry way, hence a "thresh hold."
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They cooked in the kitten in a big kettle that always hung over the fire.
Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They mostly ate
vegetables and didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner
leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the
next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been in there for a
month. Hence the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge
in the pot nine days old."
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Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special when that
happened. When company came over, they would bring out some bacon and hang
it to show it off. It was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring
home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would
all sit around and "chew the fat."
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Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content
caused some of the lead to leach onto the food. This happened most often
with tomatoes, so they stopped eating tomatoes ... for 400 years.
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Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - a piece of wood
with the middle scooped out like a bowl. Trenchers were never washed and a
lot of times worms got into the wood. After eating off wormy trenchers,
they would get "trench mouth."
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Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the
loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the "upper
crust.
{{Ted}} great material. I only knew a couple of these. The rest were new to me. :D
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From: TUBES14
SAVING BUFFINGTON ISLAND
Hello, My name is John , and Im a 30 year + resident of Ohio. This email
is in regards to Buffington Island, Ohio.
Buffington Island is Ohio's only civil war battlefield, and it is in
grave danger of being destroyed. A gravel company owns 500
acres of the battlefield, in which some of the heaviest fighting of the
day was done. 60+ men , from both sides are said to be
buried there, no markers were ever set for them and only a handful of
the men are named.
I have worked for over a year to prepare a report to distribute to the
people on this battlefield and the men involved. Included in
the report are online links to rosters for as many units as I could find
. Im hoping that someone may find a relative that may be
buried at Buffington Island. Until a bit ago, I could only email out the
report, which is 2.5 megs (78 pages). I have been graced by
a friend with the same feelings for this subject as I do.He has put my
report together on a website, which , I can only say was a God send.
I invite you to visit our website, it has all the same links and
articles as my report. It will explain the battle, the commanders, where
its situated, and of course the links to the units involved.
There is a petition there that I respectfully ask you to sign, if you
share the same feelings as I , on this issue. If you know others that
might take interest in this issue , please forward this to them.
Below you will find 2 links, one will take you to my original petition,
the other will take you to the website, which also has a petition,
where you can read about Buffington Island. I must say that this is of
an urgent matter, as the gravel company is pushing to be allowed to
begin their mining.
I have other material on this battle if you are
interested, email me.
Thank You for Your Time
John A. Rawdon
Sign the Petition to Save Buffington Island
http://www.petitiononline.com/Buff/petition.html
VISIT THE SAVING BUFFINGTON ISLAND WEBSITE
http://www.geocities.com/buffington_isle/
{{Tom}} thanks for the heads up.
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From: FI WATROUS
Can anyone help this fellow?
"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt.
From: [email protected]
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt.
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903.
"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by
talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil
War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it
so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to
address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth
(as we know it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we
dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So
come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a
full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the
Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.
As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into
discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution
for this "Weekly Fireside."
AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to
the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire
to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we will comply
with your wishes "poste- haste".
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****
Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH Amy,
GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :)
01/20/2000 - It's OPEN CHAT, so you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll
"Collectively" Try to Answer them...........
01/27/2000 - "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided by
IllinoisCW. Frank has provided a great story which GFS Jayne will "read" to us .... Don't miss
this one.
02/03/2000 - OPEN CHAT - In addition we will have a very special story. GFS TEG has
gathered the story of "The Angel of Mayre's Heights" for you. This is indeed incredible. A must
see!!!!
02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.
02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose
02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT
03/02/2000 - A Tale About A Man Called "Old Beeswax" - GFS Jim
03/09/2000 - Letters Songs and Poems Night
03/16/2000 - OPEN CHAT
03/23/2000 - When the Ozarks Burned - GFS Jim
03/31/2000 - OPEN CHAT
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-)
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy
Hear Ye .... Hear Ye
"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 27 February 2000
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Ohhhh we had a grand session Thursday night asking questions, meeting new folk, answering most questions and on occassion answering with a "Duh".... Heh Heh!
SallyEPS sent me the answer to the name of the Armory in Worcester, Mass. It's the "Higgins" Armory. There you go WolfordGen :-) And thanks Sally :D
Music: I have a different piece of music for you this week. My neice came to visit this week and she and hubby brought me a real treasure. It's called "Blood On The Border" - The War Between Missouri and Kansas. It was compiled and produced by Chris Edwards. I'll quote you the introduction to give you a feel for its content.
"The recording, with it's eight songs linked narrative segments all composed by Chris Edwards, views the situation leading up to the War along the Missouri/Kansas border and the subsequent guerrilla war that followed. By using this point of view through the eyes of Bud Pence, one of the guerrillas who rode with Quantrill and Anderson from 1861 to 1865, Edwards is able to give a much different slant to what took place during these dard and dangerous times."
There you go. I found the listening of this CD fascinating and as the intro... indicates quite a different slant on those times. Give it a try. You'll certainly learn a different aspect...
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Editor's Note: for those of you who are AOL members, I want to encourage you to feel entirely free to post any Civil War Letters, or Stories or articles that you have in our Civil War History Files. There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you would desire to share those with the Civil War History community. Use "keyword=roots" to get to the Genealogy Main Screen. Then select Files, followed by selecting History and Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I mentioned; Civil War Files, and Civil War Photos. I would also note that the New Genealogy Forum Web Site is being constructed. On that Web Site, the Civil War History SIG will have an area to link to our Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photo's). When this is complete then anyone (not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material. We'll be sure to let you know when you can access it.
This coming Thursday is a tale about A Man Called "Old Beeswax". It's a Naval story about Raphael Harwood Semmes, known as "Old Beeswax". You won't want to miss this one. :-)
We'll keep a light on for you ....*<>*
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY..
Every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We hope to give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room:D
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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D
Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots," after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center," then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files." Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters".
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Weekly Web Sites we've received
from: GFS Jayne
Point Lookout POW Descendants Organization
http://members.tripod.com/~PLPOW/plpow.htm
The site contains a partial list of those who died at Point Lookout
from IrishinCal
Civil War Web Site
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9787/military.html
from Amy
Another Civil War Web Site
http://www.users.fast.net/~mdolfan/compa.html
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And The Band Played On - An Announcement
July 2000 National Civil War Band Festival
The American Civil War Institute of Campbellsville University and the Campbellsville University School of Music announced today the launching of the "greatest and most significant gathering of Civil War bands in the nation since 1865" with the University's sponsorship of The National Civil War Band Festival, July 28-30, 2000.
The three-day music festival will be held on the campus of Campbellsville University, which is located in south central Kentucky (82 miles southwest of Lexington; 90 miles southeast of Louisville; and 150 miles northeast of Nashville).
Organizers of the event said that they are estimating The National Civil War Band Festival to attract between 10,000 to 25,000 people to the City of Campbellsville.
Host bands for the festival are the Saxton's Cornet Band, based in Lexington, Kentucky, and the Old Towne Brass, based in Huntsville, Alabama. Bands wishing to participate or seeking further information may contact either Nicky Hughes at [email protected] or Bob Baccus at [email protected].
For more information concerning the festival, contact Marc C. Whitt at 270-789-5211--office or at [email protected], or Dr. David McCullough, director of bands at Campbellsville University, at 270-789-5058--office or at [email protected].
Marc C. Whitt
Vice President for Advancement
Campbellsville University
1 University Drive
Campbellsville, Kentucky 42718-2799
(270) 789-5211-office phone
(270) 789-5095-office fax
"Ted" thanks for this neat tip. It sounds like a "once in a lifetime" event..... If any of you Readers are interested in this, Ted has provided all the "contact" information to get "your dibs" in early. I would suspect this will fill up in a hurry and this is a "first time" gathering of this nature.... :-) I'm going to leave this up a bit so everyone can mark their calendars and make arrangements if they're interested.
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From: GFS Jayne
BITS OF BLUE AND GRAY
The March article "The Civil War - A Family Connection" is now available at
Bits of Blue and Gray - Home OR
http://www.stategensites.com/bitsofblueandgray/
When you get to the website, just click on the title of the article and you will be "transported" there. The story this month is about Levi McCormick, my husband's ggrandfather of the 4th Delaware Volunteers. You will find a picture of him and one of the many letters he wrote home during his three years in the war. You can click on the picture or letter, you will bring up a much larger version. While you're visiting the Bits of Blue and Gray homepage, be sure to check out the trivia question. It changes everyday and gives the answer to yesterday's question today. The guru Webmaster has also added Message Boards where you can "talk" to the authors, leave suggestions for future articles, trivia questions or just to stop and say hello. Please stop and visit...
Thanks, Jayne
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From: ZOOM UP
For a great book with Confederate Letters, try "Surry County Soldiers in the Civil War" by Hester Bartlett Jackson. There are also writeups about each of the Surry Co Soldiers, short histories and rosters of the units
{{GFS Jayne}} thanks for passing ZOOM UP's information. And thanks Gordon for keeping us up to speed :D
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..
Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside"!!
GFS Jim
IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!!
Thanks!! - The Editors
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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....
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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the night the Sultana went down.
Thanks so much!
Pam Newhouse
{{{Pam}}} - check out the websites in last week's Fireside
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From: JCHovermal
Could anyone help me with this one? My great grandfather James A. Furman Truett was enlisted into the 14th SC Infantry in Aug.1861 in a town called Lightwood Knot Springs. Does anyone know where that was?
Susan Truett Hovermale
Mt. Pleasant,SC
{{{{Susan}}}} Here's hoping some one of the Civil War History "Faithful" can help.
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From: [email protected] (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg, W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.
"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say Ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...
Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedback's, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...
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GFS TEG has a complete list of the Confederate and Union burials at the Woodlawn Cemetery in Elmira, NY. If you would like a "look-up" send him an email at GFS [email protected]
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From: [email protected] (Martin Fedchak)
Thanks for all the good work you all do with the newsletter and on the chat line -- keep it up for all of us...
Bonnie (formerly bjfedchak on aol) :)
{{Bonnie}} Thanks for letting us know your new email address. We've made the change.
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From: FI WATROUS
- Civil War Memorabilia Decaying in a Government Basement
The Associated Press ran an article this week about the U.S. Government's poor handling of some of the nation's most valuable artifacts. 81-year-old Angela Eckert and
her family gave hundreds of artifacts to the U.S. government in 1971, including uniforms, rifles, and even Army-issue knives with dried blood still on the blades. The collection would be worth roughly $50 million today, but Eckert and her relatives gave the gift to
the U.S. Government and the American people free of charge. "It's called patriotism," she recalls telling her friends. Now, sitting thoughtfully in her rocking chair, Eckert
says her faith may have been misplaced.
Eckert, whose family owned property near the site of the Battle of Gettysburg, claims that the National Park Service is mistreating of artifacts instead of taking care of
them. Most of her collection is now slowly decaying in a cellar with many items exposed to cold, musty air.
Such is the price of naiveté when dealing with the federal government, says Eckert, who sued for the return of the items last March. She says the family will keep the
collection and care for it properly if her lawsuit is successful. She would consider dropping the case if the government would just apologize.
"They just wanted a new building, so they have to show that the one they have now is falling apart," Eckert said. "The damage being done to the artifacts is irreparable.
They're playing a sort of game and it's just left me heartbroken."
While Eckert's suit was pending, Gettysburg National Military Park did receive approval for a new $39.3 million visitor center. The current visitor center once was
Eckert's family home.
The current plan for the center calls for construction of a museum and visitor center at the park in conjunction with the Gettysburg National Battlefield Museum Foundation, a nonprofit foundation, said park spokeswoman Katie Lawhon. The center will also contain a 6,000-square-foot store, which will sell books and educational materials, and a 250-seat cafe, she said.
Lawhon said park officials love the artifacts just as intensely as Eckert and defends the new visitor center as the best way to protect the battlefield's history. "We all want to
see these artifacts protected," Lawhon said. "Some park superintendents might have thrown up their hands and said this is the best we can do with the money we're given. But the park has found a creative way to pay for a new center that will be able to protect
the artifacts and honor the men and women who died here. Until then, we're doing the best we can."
Lawhon says that the artifacts will be put in a temporary facility in March. Eckert says the park decided to build the temporary building only because of her lawsuit. The current visitor center, a red brick house built on a hill, sits on property that was owned by Eckert's family during the battle of Gettysburg. Eckert's ancestors, the Rosensteels, started the collection by picking up items from the battlefield after the fighting had ended. After donating the artifacts, Eckert's husband, Larry, was a curator for 20 years. Mrs. Eckert said the park hasn't followed through on verbal promises to buy heaters and dehumidifiers.
No one contests that the artifacts are being stored in poor conditions. Park officials say that 92 percent of the artifacts are deteriorating "slowly but surely." The humidity rate is often as much as 10 percent above what the government outlines as acceptable. A white film of mold grows on several leather holsters in the storage room. Documents signed by Abraham Lincoln warp due to the strains of changing temperatures.
"We've done the best we can with the funds that the government gives us," said curator Paul Shevchuk. "People love museums, but they seldom want to pay for it." But John Fenstermacher, who represents Eckert, says the park never attempted to perform any upkeep onthe visitor center and then brought legislators to tour the
premises. "This was all about convincing politicians and businessmen that they need more money," Fenstermacher said. "But meanwhile, a great disservice is being perpetrated against the artifacts that Mrs. Eckert willingly gave to the government for protection. It's the worst kind of abuse of patriotism."
Eckert says she just wants the government to do its duty. "We aren't trying to lie or do anything underhanded," Eckert said. "I just can't believe they would take a gift to the people of the United States and treat it like this."
"Ike" - thanks for the news.
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From: TUBES14
I'll leave this up for awhile.
SAVING BUFFINGTON ISLAND
Hello, My name is John , and Im a 30 year + resident of Ohio. This email
is in regards to Buffington Island, Ohio.
Buffington Island is Ohio's only civil war battlefield, and it is in
grave danger of being destroyed. A gravel company owns 500
acres of the battlefield, in which some of the heaviest fighting of the
day was done. 60+ men , from both sides are said to be
buried there, no markers were ever set for them and only a handful of
the men are named.
I have worked for over a year to prepare a report to distribute to the
people on this battlefield and the men involved. Included in
the report are online links to rosters for as many units as I could find
. Im hoping that someone may find a relative that may be
buried at Buffington Island. Until a bit ago, I could only email out the
report, which is 2.5 megs (78 pages). I have been graced by
a friend with the same feelings for this subject as I do.He has put my
report together on a website, which , I can only say was a God send.
I invite you to visit our website, it has all the same links and
articles as my report. It will explain the battle, the commanders, where
its situated, and of course the links to the units involved.
There is a petition there that I respectfully ask you to sign, if you
share the same feelings as I , on this issue. If you know others that
might take interest in this issue , please forward this to them.
Below you will find 2 links, one will take you to my original petition,
the other will take you to the website, which also has a petition,
where you can read about Buffington Island. I must say that this is of
an urgent matter, as the gravel company is pushing to be allowed to
begin their mining.
I have other material on this battle if you are
interested, email me.
Thank You for Your Time
John A. Rawdon
Sign the Petition to Save Buffington Island
http://www.petitiononline.com/Buff/petition.html
VISIT THE SAVING BUFFINGTON ISLAND WEBSITE
http://www.geocities.com/buffington_isle/
{{Tom}} thanks for the heads up.
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From: FI WATROUS
Can anyone help this fellow?
"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt.
From: [email protected]
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt.
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903.
"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....
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From: QNavyWife
To: GFS Jim
Sent on: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38
{{{JIM}}}}
My Own Native Land; what an incredible song! now I will have to find it so I can listen to it...better check my tapes as I may even have it on one! I have a few Celtic music tapes.....so I may have it somewhere!
R
{{R}} Hope you find it. That one is a jewell.
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From: NEVassau
I belong to the Wisconsin Historical Society and I want to copy something for you that was in the society's latest newsletter. I hope it will be of some use to someone.
Eileen
Tip of the Iceberg: Society publishes Popular Resource Online:
Wisconsin Civil War Rosters
What used to require a trip to the Society library in Madison now can be done via the Internet from anywhere in the world. This, because the Society recently published on at http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/roster the "Roster of Wisconsin Volunteers, War of the Rebellion, 1861-1865", a popular resource for genealogists, military historians, and others. The roster describes the service of all soldiers known to have served in Wisconsin's Civil War regiments. Patrons have responded enthusiastically to this new service.
The roster will prove only the tip of the iceberg of the Society's plans to digitize rare books and basic references from its collections. Michael Edmonds, acting library director, says the online version "is just the first in a series of full-text web sources that will appear over the next few years as the library and archives begin to provide public access to their holdings in a digital fashion."
Each page of the online book appears on the computer screen as a facsimile of the original. Special software, which users may download to their computer for free, enables readers to print single pages.
A few years ago, in anticipation of technological advances and ever-increasing reliance on the Internet as an electronic resource, the Society formed a partnership with Northern Micrographics of La Crosse. NMI scans reference works and rare books and manuscripts in the Society's collections, making acid-free reprints available to libraries and providing the Society with the electronic version for posting on its wed site.
Generous financial support has enabled the Society to make this initial foray into providing digital access to the library and archives' collections.
{{Eileen}} - thank you for the info and the website :D
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".
OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.
Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.
"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."
OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).
We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.
As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside."
AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)
We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif," just drop us a line and we will comply with your wishes "poste- haste".
Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****
Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH Amy, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :)
03/02/2000 - A Tale About A Man Called "Old Beeswax" - GFS Jim
03/09/2000 - Letters Songs and Poems Night
03/16/2000 - OPEN CHAT
03/23/2000 - When the Ozarks Burned - GFS Jim
03/31/2000 - OPEN CHAT
We'll See You Thursday Night..!
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-)
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy