December 1998 Weekly Firesides

Hear Ye ..............Hear Ye 

"The Weekly Fireside" 
of the American Civil War History 
Special Interest Group 
Distribution Coast to Coast 
Week ending 06 December 1998

"ON THE ROAD AGAIN" :-) LOL I'm down in Fort Walton Beach, FL again but this trip I'm finally "Wired" to the Faithful.. Heh Heh I'll be looking forward to seeing you all on Thursday night for Letters, Songs and Poems Night. THANK YOU GFS Jayne for doing the newsletter in my absence. I'll try to send in tidbits now and then.
Your wandering Co-host GFS Jim

Well with my "senior" partner on the road again, it's my pleasure to do the Weekly Fireside. I can tell you for sure, Jim WILL be in the room this week (barring any unforeseen hurricanes or power losses!!!!!) even though he's away, 'cause I just finished talking to him in IM so the new system does work!!!! There are several great stories in "A Bit of Community" from GFH TEG. You won't want to miss them. He's FULL of them!!!!! 
I've received the entire Weekly Fireside distribution list from Jim.... it's hard to believe there are over 800 of you and that just tickles us to death!!!!!!

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This Thursday is our special night... Songs, Letters and Poems. We've got some good ones lined up, so be sure to come and join us.

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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WELCOME" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU :-)..... 
COME AGAIN, WE "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY....

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The continuing series I'm putting in the newsletter under the HELP DESK, is on the Civil War Military 
Records which can be found at, or through film ordering at your local Family History Centers 
(FHCs)........ So many of you have been astonished that those records are available through the FHCs, that 
we thought this would be of worth in your research.... 

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THE HELP DESK 

This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a 
chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

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From: haskell@c4.net (Richard Haskell)

for about a year I have had the Weekly Fireside forwarded to me
by a friend and am now wondering about how I can personally get
on your mailing list. Is there a membership fee? 

Thank you,
Richard A. Haskell
Haskell@C4.net

"Richard" - we are indeed honored that you have been that faithful and have found our efforts that rewarding. There is NO membership fee, this is strictly a service of the American Civil War Special Interest Group here on America On-Line.

We are more than happy to add you to our "outside" list. We have beteen 50 and 60 currently getting the newsletter outside AOL and we will continue to include such until we get so large we GAG the email .... Heh Heh... GFS Jim

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Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring 
you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". 
At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History 
Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the 
New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting 
Logs and Newsletters". 

New Postings since last we talked :-) The Campaign That Failed is already in the Library so help yourself.
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U.S. Military Records at the Family History Centers............................. 

SERVICE RECORDS .........TO BE CONTINUES UPON JIM'S RETURN HOME

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DID YOU KNOW?? ................................... 
.....that the average height of a Union Soldier was 5' 8-1/4"
.....that the tallest person was Captain Van Buskirk of the 27th Indiana... at 6' 10-1/2"
.....that the shortest person was only 3' 4" - a private in the 192 Ohio
.....that 30% of the troops had Brown hair
.....that 45% had Blue eyes

source for the above info: "The Civil War Book of Lists" compiled by the editors of COMBINED BOOKS. It's a really fun book to look at.
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY............................ 

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of 
Interest and Pleas for HELP................ 

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A PLEA FOR HELP FROM YOUR HOSTS!!!!!!!!
In the Weekly Fireside for the week of December 21st, we'd like to include Civil War era Christmas stories, letters and poems. If you have anything you'd like to share with us, please send them to me and we'll include as many as we have space for. 
Thanks.... 
GFS Jayne

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The next three stories come from our very own GFH TEG aka TUBES14 and Tom (and "lil' brother" to me). He has lots and lots of these stories to tell although not all are quite as gruesome as this first one!

A HORRIBLE DEATH
"Explosive Bullets" were made by some regiments during the Civil war. These bullets were implanted with a powder train and a small explosive charge was placed in the nose of the bullet. These bullets expolded soon after being fired, and if embedded inside a man's body caused terrible havoc.
Prior to Gettysburg, the 29th New Hampshire infantry had been issued some of these bullets. However, in the case of one solider, the user became the victim.
During the fighting at the Peach Orchard on 2 July, ''several cartridge boxes were exploded. A shell struck and burst on the box of Corporal Thomas Bignall of Company C."
The (explosive) cartridges were driven into his body and fired, and for nearly half a minute the devilish ''musket shells'' were exploding in his quivering body. But death was mercifully quick.
"The next moment a fragment of shell exploded the cartridage box of Sargent J. M. House of Company I. The rapidity with which he tore off the infernal machine hanging by his side was astonishing, and he escaped with only a severe wound."

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A REUNION
One more story of a solider meeting his brother, and each in a different army at Gettysburg, occured on July 2 in the town, which was helped by the Southern troops. This incident happened in the rear of the Christ Luthern Church on Chambersburg Street, and was witnessed by Sargent Austin C. Stearns, Company K, 13th Massachusetts infantry, who was a wounded prisoner.
''While out behind the church in the yard cooking our breakfast, there were Rebs and Union men, and there two brothers met, one dressed in blue, the other in gray, and with the exception of their uniforms both men looked alike. Both were little, red faced, red haired Irishmen, and both blubbered and cried, and hugged each other as only Irishmen can. The Union man wanted the Reb to go with him and leave the caues of the South, while the Reb didn't see how he could go when the Union man was a prisoner and would perhaps have to go South whether he wanted to or not. How they decided it I never knew, for I left the yard and never saw them again.''

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ONE WOMAN'S DEVOTION
A wife came to see and care for her wounded husband of the 13th Massachusetts, learning he was dead, she asked about his grave and was told, "You might as well expect to find a needle in a haystack." Then she replied, I can find him; for I could take apart every blade of hay until I had removed it entirely. Show me where he was burried."
After disinterring nearly twenty bodies, the woman saw a particular button, by which she knew her husband, on the corpse in the next grave . This button on his uniform had been dented by a bullet in a previous battle, and the woman remembered it well. Jumping into the hole, she scratched the dirt off his body. After removing him from his unmarked resting place, the devoted wife accompanied her soldier to their Northern home. 

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Let me know what you think Sis.
Tom

((((((Tom)))))... I think they're GREAT!!!! (and just for those wondering if we're REALLY brother and sister.... no, we're not. BUT we have/had the same mentor during our training and since she told us she would be like our "Mom", and we'd be stuck with her for life... we figured we HAD to be brother and sister.<G>)

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This was mentioned in the last Weekly Fireside and is being discussed by GFS Jim, GFH TEG and GFS Jayne. 

"This might be a really neat time to start a “HELP A RESEARCHER” area. We'll put this to the membership and see what happens. WHAT WOULD ALL OF YOU WHO READ THE “FIRESIDE” THINK ABOUT GOING OUT AND TAKING A FEW PICTURES OF AREAS CLOSE (VERY CLOSE) TO YOUR HOMES FOR OTHER MEMBERS THAT ARE TOO FAR AWAY OR UNABLE TO GET TO THESE SITES. We're thinking that we would NOT publish any addresses of members willing to take the pictures (to respect your privacy) but just list the REQUEST in the Newsletter and let the membership respond to the requestors through individual email...... That way no undue burden would be put on any individual member. Anyway it’s a thought, so let us know your thinking."

We've already had some very favorable responses to this. Keep those cards and letters coming!!! heh, heh, heh. We need to know how YOU feel about this... with your pro or con and "requestor" or "requestee" points of view. 

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While the following isn't about the Civil War, so many of you are also interested in the American Revolution... so I've decided to included this article which was sent to us by GFS NanC

This coming<B> Wednesday night, December 9th, at 10 p.m. Eastern</B>, TEAM CANADA and the Loyalist chat will be hosting a special lecture by Mr. Todd Braisted on the Provincial Corps of Pennsylvania Loyalists.

This is Todd's third lecture for the Forum, and we are lucky to count him among our friends, as he is likely the foremost expert in the United States today on the Loyalist military of the American Revolution. He has researched in the United States, Canada and England and his work has appeared in any number of distinguished publications. He is the past Chairman of the West Point Chapter of the Company of Military Historians, a member of the Board of Trustees of the Bergen County, NJ Historical Society and a member of numerous other military and historical organizations. He has been a guest lecturer at the David Library of the American Revolution, the National Meeting of the Company of Military Historians, the United Empire Loyalist Association National Convention and, of course, our own Golden Gates Genealogy Forum. 

If you have an interest in the history of the American Revolution, even if it's from the "other" side <g>, you might want to drop in to the <A HREF="aol://2719:2-2-loy562r">Loyalist Chat Room</A> and catch what he has to say. His lectures are always a treat, and I think I can guarantee that you will come away from the experience with a better understanding of the lives and times of our ancestors of the Revolutionary period.

Hope to see some of you there!

Loyally yours,
GFS NanC

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NOTE from your substitute editor: Many of you already know about this, but for those who don't, you may find this interesting. Maybe some of you have some information you'd like to share. 

Subj: <B> Civil War Units File CWUNITS Call for Listings</B>
From: botteron@cruciate.ai.mit.edu (Carol J. Botteron)

Have you researched a U.S. Civil War unit or group?
Are you willing and able to help others research that unit?

The next version of the U.S. Civil War Units File (CWUNITS) will
become available in mid-December. An announcement will be posted
then. In the meantime I invite listings through Friday, Dec. 11.

The following addresses no longer work. If you are one of these
people or know how to contact one, please email me. Unless I find
new addresses I'll have to delete their listings.

c.depp@genie.geis.com
dbedell3@ua1vm.ua.edu
ENordfors@aol.com
ese01.aol.com (Earl S. Elliott jr)
RobMerz@gnn.com
shelton@mohawk.jsc.nasa.gov

If you write to me, please do *NOT* include this message in your
reply. My time and disk space are limited. Thanks!

The purpose of the CWUNITS file is to let people list units, groups,
battles, etc., that they have information on (from pension records,
books, etc.) and are willing to help other people research.
Typically the contact person had an ancestor who was in the unit,
but re-enactors, history buffs, et al. are welcome. (This is _not_
a list of reenactment units.) People who are interested in a unit
can send the contact person email and share information.

If you have questions please read the FAQ first. If it doesn't
answer your question, feel free to ask me.

Anyone who'd like to volunteer to be a contact, please send me email
from the address that you'd like listed. If you are volunteering for
more than one unit, it's OK to put them all in the same message.

Please list your entries in this format (addresses are fake):
Illinois (USA)
4th Illinois Cavalry, Co. F 1861-4 Abe.Lincoln@uky.edu
18th Reg. Ill. Infantry 1865 jd@ibm.com (John Doe)

Instructions -- include the following:
Country (USA or CSA) and state.
Start each entry with the number of the regiment or whatever.
Years (if applicable, but not necessary).
Your email address on each line.
Your real name.
Also please include a statement like "I volunteer to be a contact
for this unit." This is so I can be sure that everyone I list
understands what the file is for.

This is a big project, and if you send listings in the wrong format
I reserve the right to send it back for you to fix. If there's
anything in your listings that is not obvious, tell me! If we can't
get your listings complete and clear by the time I have to send the
file to the uploaders, your listings cannot be included.

If you already have listings in the file, there's no need to send
them again. But if your address has changed, please tell me and
send updated listings.

On the WWW, the file is available on the American Civil War Homepage
URL: http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/warweb.html
under the heading Rosters of Combatants.

To get the current version of the file by email at any time:
Send email to ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com
(Upper and lower case count in the email address and everywhere else.)
Subject: archive
For the FAQ, send the text:
get genealog.cwunitsq
The period (.) has to be after genealogy and before the file name.

To get a listing of all of the ROOTS-L files, send the command
get roots-l.catalog

Carol Botteron (ancestors on both sides) botteron@alum.mit.edu

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT…………. 

OUR FOCUS: the "History of the North American Civil War". 

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history 
surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died 
because of. 

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgemental and to address ALL 
aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (where we know it). 

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate 
one Thursday a month to the sharing Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; 
we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, 
either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on 
this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly 
Fireside." 

AND TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :) 

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We relish what members bring to the discussions, and 
we hope to see more of you.... NOTE THAT FOR ANY REASON, SHOULD YOU DESIRE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE DISTRIBUTION OF THIS "WEEKLY MISSIF", JUST DROP US A LINE AND WE WILL COMPLY WITH YOUR WISHES "POSTE-HASTE". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events****** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFS Jayne, GFH TEG and GFS Jim and our many fill-in friends :) 

12/10/98 - "Letters, Songs and Poems Night" - GFS Jim is on the road but will be with us this time!!!! 

12/17/98 - "OPEN CHAT" - GFS Jim is still on the road

12/24/98 - "MERRY CHRISTMAS" To allow all of you to enjoy your Christmas time with Family, Your 
HOST's are taking Christmas Eve OFF. And we're gonna be funnin around with our Families as well. 

12/31/98 - "HAPPY NEW YEAR'S EVE" I'm not sure what we'll do that night. We're a thinkin.... LOL

We'll See You Thursday Night……….! 
Your Hosts 
GFS Jayne, GFH TEG and GFS Jim

Hear Ye ..............Hear Ye 

"The Weekly Fireside" 
of the American Civil War History 
Special Interest Group 
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 20 December 1998

Well, "Faithful" here it is Christmas of 1998. What a grand year we've had together. Got home safe and sound last Saturday night to my cold and snowy home but it warmed my heart to be here... Jayne, Tom and I wish you safe travel and great memories to come for this holiday season. It's special, you know :-) You folks are special to us and we wish you the best! Maria, Donna, Sue, Don, Teresa, Charley, Travis, Denise and all the rest of you others that are defending our country and are away from your families, a SPECIAL GOD BLESS and Thank You!!! May you soon be reunited safe and sound.... And to the crew up in Eielson AFB, Alaska, stay WARM!!! We've become quite a "family" haven't we? So we've made this our Christmas Card to all of you ..... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.....

............and here's a present from us................

I'm sitting here looking out my window while I'm typing this and watching the snow fall, the christmas lights a'winking along the street and "you know it", listening to a "bit of Christmas music". So I figured we'd better share some with you. Heh Heh ... I'm listening to "The Gift" by Jim Brickman, pianist extraordinaire... Then I'm gonna put on Kenny G's "Miracles", The Holiday Album. Oh My! If you like Men's Groups, then by all means try "Sing We Christmas" by Chanticleer. Men's harmony beyond compare.... Now for Chorale Groups, two of my favorites are The Robert Shaw Chorale in "The Many Moods of Christmas" and "Songs of Angels", then there's the Harry Simeone Chorale on "The Little Drummer Boy" album. For you Jazz lovers, try David Benoit's "Remembering Christmas. Then for the Classic Folk, there's "Thys Yool" just full of Medieval Christmas Carols by the Martin Best Ensemble. Finally for just some easy listening there's "In Bleak Mid-Winter, the soft sounds of Christmas" featuring the King's College Choir and many others; and three awesome albums from the Windham Hill Sampler series, Celtic Christmas I, II and III. Happy Listening :D

As our chosen interest is the History of the Civil War it brings me to think of those conflicts that occurred on or around Christmas time. Fredericksburg, Stone's River, and Chickasaw Bluffs in 1862; and Nashville and Sherman's March to the Sea in 1864. To give you a "Christmas Story" from the Civil War I chose my favorite about Fredericksburg to share with you this holiday. Some of you have heard this before and some of you are new since the last telling of this story. Enjoy!!

"It has been documented in many, many places, from diaries and letters of Civil War Veterans, to newspaper stories, about a tradition that occurred over and over in Federal and Confederate camps at the end of the day. At twilight, the regimental bands would begin their evening concerts. When the armies were bivouacked close to each other, the bands would play of an evening, and sometimes they would compete with each other or they would alternate playing different songs back and forth. Toward the end of their concerts the music would become tender and soothing calling up memories of home, family and better days.

One such occassion, I would like to tell about. It's twilight in Virginia, along the Rappahannock River. The Union Army of about 100,000 is camped on one side of the river and the Confederate Army of 70,000 is camped on the other. It's bitter cold that night on the 23rd of December, 1862. A few weeks earlier they had fought the Battle of Fredericksburg, at that time in the conflict, the bloodiest battle ever fought on American soil. 12,000 Federals and 5,000 Confederates had been killed or wounded.. The bands from both armies had been playing that night and they were coming to the close of their concerts. That night they had alternated back and forth, the music becoming more and more tender, bringing tears and longing to the hearts of the soldiers. Finally one Federal band had started one of the Civil War's favorite tunes. The music floated over the river, while men and boys, were writing letters home. The moon was out and it's light shown down on thousands of campfires sending streams of smoke up into the cold air. The music was so light, and haunting. No sooner had the Federal band started than a Confederate band joined in. One at a time, other regimental bands on both sides joined in, adding their "voice" to the music. Pens were put down, card games stopped; all talk and sounds of cleanup and preparing for bed stopped except for the music. Finally every regimental band had joined in to meld the music together. Still not a sound from 170,000 souls as they sat motionless with their frosty breath and the campfire smoke rising into the moonlit sky and listening to an "unearthly" song........

"Mid pleasures and palaces though we may roam,
Be it ever so humble there's no place like home!
A charm from the skies seems to hallow us there,
Which, seek through the world, is ne'er met with elsewhere;
Home! Home! sweet, sweet, Home!
There's no place like Home!
There's no place like Home."

The music slowly began to fade, until the last note just drifted off into the night, fainter and fainter, until...... nothing. Suddenly from that awesome silence, both sides "Roared" up with heart rending shout, and started cheering, jumping up and down, and throwing their hats in the air. In the words of one witness, Frank Mixson, Private, 1st South Carolina Volunteers; "Had there not been a river between them, the two armies would have met face to face, shaken hands, and ended the war on that spot.

The song; "Home Sweet Home" by John Howard Payne. Thank you Ernest L. Abel for your article in the May 1996 edition of "America's Civil War" Magazine that reminded me of this incredible incident."
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This Thursday is CHRISTMAS EVE so from US (GFS Jayne, GFH TEG and GFS Jim) we wish you all a Very Merry Christmas and much joy and warm and loving memories with your families......

FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WELCOME" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU :-)..... 
COME AGAIN, WE "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.... 

Check the NEW "MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS" section below....... 

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A CHRISTMAS CARD From: GFS Jayne

Season's Greetings to all the members of the American Civil War History Chatroom.
At this very special time of year, I'd like to tell you how very special you've all become. It's been nine months now since I first started my GF training... and 6 months since I became GFS... how time does fly! When I first came to the room in April of 1997, I knew next to nothing about the Civil War, except that I had a ggrandfather who fought in it. I'm still in the beginners stage, but I want to thank all of you who have shared your information and are helping me learn about a very important and pivotal part of our history. 
I want to thank KathyD for her generosity. That first night in the room, I asked about Salisbury Prison... she told me she had a lot of information and would send it to me. I gave her my snail mail address and within days I received about 100 pages of information. She had no idea who I was or anything about me, but wanted to help and help she did. 
And Jim..... I can't begin to tell you all what a special person you are. It is truly an honor for me to be working with you. Your knowledge goes beyond my comprehension... Your love of music is unsurpassed... and I envy your "way with words"...
Then there's Tom... my brand new lil' brother. What a nice person you are. Your love of and enthusiasm for the Civil War is contagious. You're teaching me so much about Gettysburg. I love getting you talking about it because once started... you doesn't stop <VBG>. I'm so glad you've joined our team and it's an honor to be working with you also.
Through our room I have gained an absolutely terrific big brother, who I met face to face this past fall and who lives not far from my youngest son in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (I also met his wife, sister and brother-in-law). I also had the opportunity to meet, last spring, another room member who is the nicest, most genuine gentleman you'd ever want to meet (and his wife also). I've talked to a couple of others on the phone which was also quite special. Then, there's my "guru" who has been been so patient in answering all my questions. I hope he realizes just how interesting he has made the Civil War for me and how much I appreciate the time he has taken to help me. There are two very special "girlfriends" who help me keep the "midnight oil burning"!!!! <G> I have a picture frame next to my computer... in it... pictures of some of my very special friends who are scattered all over the US.... AL, CO, ID, IL, KY, MI, PA, WS
Christmas is my favorite time of year and I just wanted to let ALL of you know how special you are. I work in and attend other chatrooms but none of them are as special as "ours".
My best wishes for the Season to everyone and a very Happy New Year to you all. To my two partners... thank you for a wonderful year and I don't know how one gal can be so lucky to have two such terrific fellas as partners!! I'd also like to thank my hubby for allowing me to grow both in knowledge and as a person.
With Love and Peace to everyone.
Jayne

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The continuing series I'm putting in the newsletter under the HELP DESK, is on the Civil War Military 
Records which can be found at, or through film ordering at your local Family History Centers 
(FHCs)........ So many of you have been astonished that those records are available through the FHCs, that 
we thought this would be of worth in your research.... 
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THE HELP DESK 

This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a 
chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring 
you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". 
At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History 
Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the 
New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting 
Logs and Newsletters". 

New Postings since last we talked :-) Border Wars was already in the Library so help yourself.
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U.S. Military Records at the Family History Centers............................. 

The next stage of this series, I thought would be best to describe the various Types of Military Records 
available for Civil War researchers and those available through the FHC network. 

FINALLY Specific Confederate Sources........................... 

Records of the Confederate Army are located in the National Archives, state archives, and historical societies. Records at the National Archives will be discussed in this outline. For state service records, such as Alabama's "Confederate Service Records", 1861-1865 (FHL 67 films; FHLC computer number 482117), see the state research outlines.

SERVICE RECORDS .........continued

Texas. "Compiled Service Records", National Archives Microfilm Publication M323 (FHL films 1,501,077-521; FHLC computer number 437577) and "Index", National Archives Microfilm Publication M227 (FHL films 880,014-54; FHLC computer number 325994).

Virginia. "Compiled Service Records", National Archives Publication M324 (FHL films 1,488,678-1,489,752; FHLC computer number 437570) and "Index", National Archives Microfilm Publication M382 (FHL films 881,395-456; FHLC computer number 374174).

To find specific microfilm numbers of indexes with the Family History Library Catalog on microfiche, search the Locality section under [STATE] - MILITARY RECORDS - CIVIL WAR, 1861 - 1865 - INDEXES. To find specific microfilm numbers for the service records search the Locality section under [STATE] - MILITARY RECORDS - CIVIL WAR, 1861-1865.

The following is another important index to service records:
Index to Compiled Service Records of Confederate Soldiers who served in Organizations raised directly by the Confederate Government and of Confederate General and Staff Officers and Nonregimental Enlisted me. National Archives Microfilm Publication M818. (FHL films 1,206,310-35; FHLC computer number 328740.)

The above source indexes the following two collections:
Compiled Service Records of Soldiers Who Served in Organizations Raised Directly by the Confederate Government. National Archives Microfilm Publication M258. (FHL films 880,207-329; FHLC computer number 278791.) This series of records includes those units not raised by the individual states.
.......................................Confederate Service Records to be continued.
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From: GFS LindaE

Subj: civil war - national guard - "Militia of the Reserve" - OHIO
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This message is for all who may be interested. Since I have received
several inquiries about these units, it is my honor to reply with this
overview.

During the American Civil War, the Ohio National Guard regiments were
originally part of Ohio Governor William Dennison's "Militia of the
Reserve" plan, whereby citizens statewide would have militia training in
case of emergencies. 

Most of these Militia of the Reserve units expressly asked to be
enrolled as Home Guards, so that they would serve only within the
state. 

However, Ohio Governor John Brough made a new wrinkle in this militia
training plan. The U. S. War Department pressured states to put more
troops in the field in early 1864. Governor Brough responded on April
25, 1864, by declaring all Home Guard units the "Ohio National Guard"
and activated various units around the state of Ohio by companies or
by battalions and regiments for 100 days of service unless sooner
discharged.

This was certainly a surprise to most militia units around the state
(and draws immediate parallels of Vietnam and Desert Storm National
Guard units). Thus, the Ohio National Guard was born.... 

A typical Ohio National Guard unit was the 166th Ohio Volunteer
Infantry Regiment, also called the 166th O.N.G. It was organized at
Camp Taylor in Cleveland, and arrived at Washington, D.C in late May,
1864. The regiment was broken up by companies to man the various
forts around the nation's Capital. The unit was forced to grueling
duty when Confederate General Jubal Early and his veterans made a raid
toward Washington in July 1864. Most of the soldiers were kept on
alert for
anywhere from six to eight days in a row until Early's army retreated
back into Virginia. The 166th O.N.G. did not take part in a major
battle from what I can see in Whitelaw Reid's "Ohio in the War" v.2,
p.696. But these veterans can be proud that they helped save
Washington, D.C., from capture. 

John C. Rutherford
<ovi24th@yahoo.com>

also....
I don't know if you have this - but it never hurts to send it to you.
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http://www.rootsweb.com/~neholt/1893/
1893 Nebraska Census of Civil War Veterans
Ohio Enlistees A-E, F-K, L-R, S-Z
(It is NOT a complete listing, but does have anyone who was in NE in 1893
from Ohio)

Linda 

{{{{Linda}}}} I didn't have this one. Thanks
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From: GFS Jayne
{{{Jimmy}}}

The mail I've forwarded here is the link to the schedule for CSpan2 on Christmas weekend.... they're "doing" 48 hours of Civil War programming.. books, etc. 

From: HappyL7221
On CSPAN2 BookTV there will be a Civil War weekend December the 26th and 27... On weekends they have authors reading from their works and review of books, it is my favorite weekend TV. I hope you can get that channel if the CW weekend is something you might like to see. 

Check this out!!!! HTTP:\\WWW.BOOKTV.ORG 
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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!.........................................................

Well here it is! In response to overwhelming number of emails indicating this to be a great idea, we have responded in kind..... Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We recommend the "Requestor" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members. Do unto others as........ you know :-) Keep me posted on how this is working!!!! 
GFS Jim
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PICTURES OF THE GRAVESITE OF Edwin Nichols at the New Hope Battfield Cemetery are requested by Lkiwki@aol.com ..... If anyone can assist in this, please email this member direct and work out any details or additional information. Lynne, if you hit paydirt, let me know and I'll remove this posting.

The New Hope Battlefield is just off (North ?) of US Hwy 278 about 25 miles northwest of Atlanta, Georgia. Towns close or fairly close are Dallas, New Hope, Kennesaw, Braswell, Marietta.
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DID YOU KNOW?? ................................... 
Excerpts from various areas of documented history or family journels........ 

The band played "Dixie", and the students hauled their window shades up and down as a homemade semaphore system sending messages to eager Confederate onlookers across the potomac River. And what did their headmaster think of such nefarious goings-on in the middle of the nation's -- the Union's -- capital? Why, he put them up to it in the first place!
No matter, indeed, to Thomas N. Conrad, headmaster of a boys' school in town. No matter at all, safe to say, since he also allowed inflammatory, anti-Union speeches on that memorable school-graduation day in June of 1861. The same day he was arrested as prelude to being booted out of town, deported across the Potomac to the rebellious Southland beyond.
It was not a great beginning, true, to a budding spy career -- a Confederate spy operating in the same Federal city of Washington. But Conrad was not a man easily discouraged, even if he was a bit too flamboyant at times for his own good. Typically, he didn't stay away from Washington for long. After a brief sofourn as a chaplain in "Jeb" Stuart's cavalry troopers. Conrad made his arrangements with officals in Richmond and headed back for Washington. He made contact with foriegn diplomats and escorted them to Richmond -- a job that was somewhat risky but not too complicated.
Conrad changed his appearance for this. He boasted a reshaped beard, a new hairstyle, and machine-made Northern boots instead of Southern handmades; he also chewed his tobacco Northern style rather than Southern. It wasn't long before he was engaged in real espionage.
As anyone watching would have noticed, he developed a habit of visiting the War Department around lunchtime. It seems he had cultivated a coterie of Southern sympathizers among the department clerks. His habit was to drop by their desks, and if they had gone to lunch and left important papers out on their desks, all the better.
It is no surprise, then, that Headmaster and occasional Reverend Thomas Conrad was able to warn Richmond of Union General George McClellan's Peninsula campaign in the spring of 1862 and of General Ambrose Burnside's pending attack on Fredericksburg later the same year.
Conrad would suffer minor setbacks, sometimes barely eluding capture. Fortunately for him, he had "developed" a double agent on the staff of the Union counterespionage agency, and this man, one Edward Norton, warned Conrad in 1863 that he was under suspicion and about to be arrested again. After again unceremoniously leaving Washington -- he had little time to pack -- he spent the next few months maintaining a Confederate courier station in Boyd's Landing, Virginia, about thirty-five miles south of Washington. Working for the Confederate Secret Service, "he built a hut there and named it "Eagle's Nest," reported Donald E. Markle in his book, Spies & Spymasters of the Civil War. At this location he received communiques from agents in the North and with the assistance of two mounted couriers was able to have the information in Richmond within 24 hours.
Conrad did not always see things eye to eye with his superiors in Richmond. They once had to reject his proposal to assassinate the U.S. Army's presiding general, the aging Winfield Scott. Another unfulfilled Conrad plot was to kidnap Abraham Lincoln on one of his trips from the White House to his summer quarters at the Soldiers' Home on the outskirts of Washington. Okkly enough, just days after Lincoln's assassination in April 1865, Conrad was arrested because he looked so much like John Wilkes Booth. Lincoln's assassin. The head of the Union's counterespionage service, Lafayette Baker, not only ordered Conrad released, but, with the Civil War over, shook his hand.
And what does a successful Confederate spy do after the war is over? In Conrad's case, it was a choice in keeping with his antebellum career: He eventually became a college president. And he married, to a woman named Minnie Ball. (Yes, as in the famous bullet of the Civil War, the so-called "Minie ball," after its creator, Frenchman Claude Etienne Minie.)
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY............................ 

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of 
Interest and Pleas for HELP................ 
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From: Histodon

Hi Jim...Don Long here from Altus OK..Oh Boy!.. Histodon is another e-mail address of mine I use when doing research... Thought you might like this "poem"- Regards, Don

> The Soldier

> "It is the soldier, not the reporter,
> who gives us freedom of the press

> It is the soldier, not the poet,
> who gives us freedom of speech

> It is the soldier, not the lawyer,
> who gives us the right to a fair trial

> It is the soldier,
> who salutes the flag,
> who serves under the flag,
> whose coffin is draped by the flag,
> and who allows the protester to burn the flag."

> By Charles M. Province

"Don" - thanks for the poem. I'm putting this in our Christmas edition. You hurry up and finish the school and get back to your "Honey" and that georgeous little girl of yours. :)
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From: BettyLAtw

--I think it is a splendid idea for you to establish a "MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS" area. I live in California and never get to travel to the east coast or southeast which is where some of my ancestors lived. I have some distant cousins on my father's side who live in the upper midwest and who have been able to do some photoing for the rest of us but no one in the south from which my mother's side came who can do this. Of course, there are MANY genealogy sites one can turn to on the US GENWEB, but you might be an additional source.
Then there just might be some who want info from the west coast areas. :-)

BettyLAtw@aol.com

{{{{Betty}}}} It's already starting Heh Heh "Members (willing to help) Members".. 
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From: GMANRASH

I love reading your emails on the civil war. Thank You for the many hours of enjoyment! Truly yours and happy Holidays!!! Giovanni

{{Giovanni}} Thank you for the kind words. A Great Holiday to you from all of US..... Heh Heh
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From: Lorgriff

Re: Lkiwki/Lynne's email that you included in this week's Fireside. Please cast my vote in favor of starting a "MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS" section of the Fireside. I've taken photos of headstones for others (I'm in Michigan and took some photos for a woman in CA) and was fortunate to get photos of ancestors' stones from a cemetery south of Rochester NY. With the Fireside membership scattered throughout the US, I think this would be a wonderful idea. I look forward to reading in a future issue what the vote is! :-)

Kindest Regards,
Lorrie -- lorgriff

P.S. I live .......... (and have a Civil War ancestor and his wife interred there) and would gladly offer to photograph any stones there.

{{{{Lorrie}}}} Your's is one of many positive responses I received. You'll notice I blanked where you live to respect your privacy, and thank you for your willingness to help out. Check the new "Members Helping Members" section, and the guidelines for using this assistance :) We're in business..... Heh Heh
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From: PinkPJ1934

Thank You Jim
The weekly Fireside is always welcome and appreciated reading.
A question please. Does anyone know anything about a little civil war cemetery on Tubman Road just west of Lewiston Road in Appaling [that's near Martinez, and Augusta] Georgia?
I went to see it but could not find it. 
Most sincerely
Pinkpj1934

"Pink" - that location doesn't ring a bell, but we'll find out if anyone else does.... HEY YOU GEORGIA Folk.....! Can anyone help Pink out????????
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT…………. 

OUR FOCUS: the "History of the North American Civil War". 

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history 
surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died 
because of. 

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgemental and to address ALL 
aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (where we know it). 

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate 
one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; 
we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, 
either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on 
this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly 
Fireside." 

AND TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :) 

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We relish what members bring to the discussions, and 
we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from 
distribution of this "Weekly Missif", just drop us a line and we will comply with your wishes "poste- 
haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events****** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFS Jayne, GFH TEG and GFS Jim and our many fill-in friends :) 

12/24/98 - "MERRY CHRISTMAS" To allow all of you to enjoy your Christmas time with Family, Your 
HOST's are taking Christmas Eve OFF. And we're gonna be funnin around with our Families as well. 

12/31/98 - "HAPPY NEW YEAR'S EVE" Your Hosts and Hostess may be there in "street clothes", but we .... LOL

1/7/99 - OPEN CHAT

1/14/99 - Letters, Songs and Poems Night. Don't forget to send us (GFS Jayne, GFH TEG or GFS Jim) any that you would like us to share.. Or you can share them yourself....

1/21/99 - OPEN CHAT

1/28/99 - "Gettysburg Night" - stories and tales collected over the years by GFH TEG (our own Tom :-))

We'll See You Thursday Night……….! 
Your Hosts 
GFS Jayne, GFH TEG and GFS Jim 

Hear Ye ..............Hear Ye 

"The Weekly Fireside" 
of the American Civil War History 
Special Interest Group 
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 27 December 1998

Merry Christmas!!!!! And next week we can say Happy New Year!!!! Heh Heh Hope your Christmas 
was incredible. Well in continuing in the Christmas Spirit, the "Help Desk" and "A Bit of Community" 
have some Web sites related to Christmas in the Civil War. As I have focused on letters, and poems 
lately, I'm catching up on Web Site information for researchers. Be sure to save this off as many have 
asked for Web Sites of all categories. Well, this edition should slack that thirst..... ENJOY!!!

Oh! By the way.... While I was in Pensacola getting ready to come home last week, I dropped in on the 
Civil War Soldiers Museum down on South Palafox Place in the old district. What a great setup. The 
exhibits are most excellent and contain many original pieces loaned to the museum. The lady I talked to 
(I forgot to ask her name - :-() was very helpful and informative. Their exhibits are intermingled with 
audio modules (you push) which give a good explanation of what you are viewing. Their bookstore was 
surprisingly good and covered about 700 titles. I was very pleased that they had quite a bit of the 
pamphlet material, which is usually very good, but hard to find. Soooo, if you're down Pensacola way, 
give yourself a treat and drop into the "Civil War Soldiers Museum" and say Hi. If you have questions, 
email them at info@cwmuseum.org or visit their website at http://www.cwmuseum.org........
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This Thursday is NEW YEAR's EVE so from US (GFS Jayne, GFH TEG and GFS Jim) we wish you all a 
Very Happy New Year. Can you believe this is 1999. Your hosts will "probably" show up in street 
clothes :) However we are actually leaving this an OPEN evening (the room will be open) so that you may 
all enjoy your New Year's plans.......

FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WELCOME" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU :-)..... 
COME AGAIN, WE "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.... 

Check the NEW "MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS" section below....... We're experimenting with this 
new addition.
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The continuing series I'm putting in the newsletter under the HELP DESK, is on the Civil War Military 
Records which can be found at, or through film ordering at your local Family History Centers 
(FHCs)........ So many of you have been astonished that those records are available through the FHCs, that 
we thought this would be of worth in your research.... 
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THE HELP DESK 

This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a 
chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring 
you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". 
At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History 
Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the 
New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting 
Logs and Newsletters". 

New Postings since last we talked :-) The latest Letters, Songs and Poems have been posted in the Library 
so help yourself. I am also going to post a file with the information sent by SusiCP titled "A Roster of the 
Virginia Regiment at Fort Necessity". I'm doing this because the information is too much to put in the 
newsletter. If by change you're reading this and are not a member of AOL, send me an email if you desire 
this information and I'll send it to you as an attachment.
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U.S. Military Records at the Family History Centers............................. 

The next stage of this series, I thought would be best to describe the various Types of Military Records 
available for Civil War researchers and those available through the FHC network. 

FINALLY Specific Confederate Sources........................... 

Records of the Confederate Army are located in the National Archives, state archives, and historical 
societies. Records at the National Archives will be discussed in this outline. For state service records, 
such as Alabama's "Confederate Service Records", 1861-1865 (FHL 67 films; FHLC computer number 
482117), see the state research outlines.

SERVICE RECORDS .........continued

Compiled Service Records of Confederate General and Staff Officers and Nonregimental Enlisted Men. 
National Archives Microfilm Publication M331. (FHC films 881,105-379; FHLC computer number 
375792). The records include those men performing staff duties. To find specific microfilm numbers with 
the Family History Library Catalog on Microfiche, search the Locality section under UNITED STATES 
HISTORY - CIVIL WAR, 1861 - 1865.

Below is an alphabetical collection of records that were never indexed or interfiled with the compiled 
service records:

Unfiled Papers and Slips Belonging to Confederate Compiled Service Records. National 
Archives Microfilm Publication M347. (FHL films 1,402,001-442; FHLC computer number 210198.)

Service Records of Sailors. The source below is a guide to Confederate naval sources:

Moebs, Thomas Truxton. "Confederate States Navy Research Guide. Williamsburg, Va.: Moebs 
Publishing Co., 1991. (FHL book 973 M2moe.)

An index abstracting information about sailors and marines based on original documents, such as 
hospital, prison, and parole records, is below:

Records Relating to Confederate Naval and Marine Personnel. National Archives Microfilm Publication 
M260. (FHL films 191,662-68; FHLC computer number 327273.)

Published muster rolls are in Official Records of the Union and Confederate Navies, Vol. 1, Series II. (see 
p. 17.)
.......................................Confederate Service Records to be continued.
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From: Holm Hogs
Was sent this website by Va Roots for those who don't get that you might
want to check it out. This is a wonderful website, love the music, course
I love Gen. Sterling Price for several reasons.
Love Deanna

Sterling Price Camp, No. 145 SCV
http://www.geocities.com/~sterlingprice/

{{Deanna}} - great site.... I love it; thanks!!
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From: MDelPa

Links to Fraternal Organizations, genealogy uses .... With all the 
discussions and links about IOOF being posted, I thought I'd post 
this list again. I haven't tried all these links,
but I'm sure you will find some good information about these
organizations.

Hereditary, Fraternal, & Patriotic Organizations
Hereditary Organizations
Daughters of the American Revolution 
http://www.chesapeake.net/DAR
Daughters of the Republic of Texas
http://www.drtl.org/~drtl/index.html
Descendents of Mexican War Veterans
http://member.aol.com/dmwv/home.htm
Descendents of Washington's Army at Valley Forge
http://www.execpc.com/~drg/widwavf.html
Founders of the New Haven Colony
http://members.tripod.com/~Historic_Trust/NEWHAVEN.HTM
General Society of Mayflower Descendents
http://user.aol.com/calebj/mayflower.html
General Society of the War of 1812
http://LanClio.org/1812.htm
General Society Sons of the Revolution
http://www.execpc.com/~drg/gssro.html
Grand Army of the Republic (G.A.R.)
http://pages.prodigy.com/CGBD86A/garhp.htm
for male descendents and
Ladies of the Grand Army of the Republic
http://suvcw.org/lgar.htm

and the

Women's Relief Corps
http://suvcw.org/wrc.htm
for female descendents of Union soldiers of the Civil War.
Huguenot Society
http://www.startext.net/homes/huguenot/
International Society Daughters of Utah Pioneers
http://www.media.utah.edu/medsol/UCME/d/DAUGHTERSUTPIO.html
Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States
http://suvcw.org/mollus.htm
Military Order of the Stars and Bars
http://scv.org/mosbhome.htm
Military Order of the World Wars
http://www.cais.com/dc/moww/
Order of Daedalians
http://www.daedalians.org/
Order of Indian Wars of the United States
http://members.tripod.com/~Historic_Trust/INDIAN.HTM
Point Lookout Prisoner of War Organization
http://barbados.cc.odu.edu/~bkb300z/plpow/plpow.html
for descendents of POWs at the Point Lookout, Maryland prison during
the American Civil War.
Society of the Cincinnati
http://members.tripod.com/~Historic_Trust/CINCINNA.HTM
Sons of the American Legion
http://www.legion.org/salinfo.htm
Sons of the American Revolution
http://www.sar.org/
Sons of Confederate Veterans
http://scv.org/
Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War.
http://SUVCW.org/
Link to the Daughters of Union Veterans of the Civil War.
http://suvcw.org/duv.htm

Fraternal/Social Organizations
Follow this link for a good discussion about Fraternal Organizations
and insurance. This isn't about college Greek fraternities, but rather
organizations formed for mutual benefit such as Woodmen of the World,
Knights of Pythias, Improved Order of Heptasophs, and the like.
http://www.wvu.edu/~socialwk/faculty/RAL/E/fraternities.html

Benevolent & Protective Organization of Elks (BPOE)
http://rtpnet.org/~nec/
Free Masons
http://www.freemasonry.org/index.html
Independent Order of Odd Fellows (IOOF)
http://www.avd.nl/ioof/e_index.htm
Kiwanis Club
http://www.kiwanis.com/
Knights of Columbus
http://www.netreach.net/~kofc4215/knights.htm
Lion's Club International
http://www.lions.org/
National Exchange Club
http://rtpnet.org/~nec/
Optimists International
http://www.optimist.org/
Order Knights of Pythias
http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~br001/index.html
Rotary International
http://www.rotary.org/
Shriners of North America
http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~br001/index.html
Woodmen of the World
http://members.aol.com/markcase/page3.htm

Patriotic and Military Organizations
Air Force Association (AFA)
http://www.afa.org/
The American Legion
http://www.legion.org/
Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Massachusetts
http://www.tiac.net/users/ltcdon/
Ancient and Honorable Order of the Jersey Blues
http://www.innerlight.com/genepool/njblues.htm
Association of the United States Army (AUSA)
http://www.ausa.org/
Disabled American Veterans (DAV)
http://www.dav.org/contents/
Legion of Valor of the United States
http://members.aol.com/LValor1890/index.html
Marine Corps League
http://www.mcleague.org/
Military Order of the Purple Heart
http://www.purpleheart.org/index.ssi
National Society Sons of Utah Pioneers
http://www.uvol.com/sup/homepage.html
The Navy League
http://www.navyleague.org/
Retired Officers Association (TROA)
http://www.troa.org/
United Daughters of the Confederacy
http://www.hsv.tis.net/~maxs/UDC/
Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW)
http://www.vfw.org/

{{{Jayne}}} Thanks for the pass-on... These are some great sites.....
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Subj: Civil War during Christmas
From: Holm Hogs
Check this out just got the url from Va roots and wanted to share it.
CWXmas at http://www.lib.utc.edu/preview/index.html
..................also...................
Everyone! My Christmas has been made by Scott Williams who put these
webpages together. Please visit and get to know my gt. grandfather,
Col. Alonzo W. Slayback.


I have added a few new pages on St. Louis:
1)Confederate Generals Stationed at Jefferson Barracks
(includes a nineteenth century print of Jefferson Barracks)
2)Col. Alonzo Slayback of Shelby's Cavalry (Was a St.Louis
resident after the war, originated the Veiled Prophet ball/parade,
had a very distinguished war service, and was murdered by the
editor of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.
3) Confederate POW dead buried at Jefferson Barracks
And Much more !
Please visit us at:
http://www.sterlingprice145.org/

Scott K. Williams,
Webmaster
Sterling Price Camp, No. 145
St. Louis, Mo.


{{Deanna}} This is GREAT! Members check this out, it's a ton of Christmas related CW letters and 
journals.... And the "Sterling Price" site is neat....

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!.........................................................

Well here it is! In response to overwhelming number of emails indicating this to be a great idea, we have 
responded in kind..... Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or 
battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will 
post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist 
can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We recommend the "Requestor" 
pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" 
assistance between members. Do unto others as........ you know :-) Keep me posted on how this is 
working!!!! 
GFS Jim
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PICTURES OF THE GRAVESITE OF Edwin Nichols at the New Hope Battfield Cemetery are requested 
by Lkiwki@aol.com ..... If anyone can assist in this, please email this member direct and work out any 
details or additional information. Lynne, if you hit paydirt, let me know and I'll remove this posting.

The New Hope Battlefield is just off (North ?) of US Hwy 278 about 25 miles northwest of Atlanta, 
Georgia. Towns close or fairly close are Dallas, New Hope, Kennesaw, Braswell, Marietta.
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DID YOU KNOW?? ................................... 
Excerpts from various areas of documented history or family journels........ 

Late in December of 1861, Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson undertook an expedition to destroy the 
Chesapeake and Ohio Canal. It was bitterly cold in the Shenandoah Valley that winter, and the troops 
grumbled mightily as they marched and camped in the ice and snow. One morning early in January, near 
the town of Bath, a group of Jackson's troops woke up to find themselves covered with snow, for it had 
snowed once again while they slept. As the men got up, shook out their snow-covered blankets, and 
started to get into their routine of the day, they cursed Jackson roundly for the miseries of their lives.
While this was going on, no one noticed one slug-a-bed curled up in his blanket under a nearby 
tree. Shortly, the man stirred, crawled out of his blanket and, shaking off the snow, stood up. The troops 
were shocked into silence, for it was Jackson himself and they braced themselves for a blast of general's 
ire. But the gallant Stonewall, who had ridden up in the night, made a smiling remark to a couple of the 
men, shook out of his blanket and was soon away.
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY............................ 

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of 
Interest and Pleas for HELP................ 
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From: SallyEPS
Jim,
I really enjoy your Fireside Chats, the Newsletter and all the people associated with the group. Especially 
liked the poem: "The Soldier" Thank you for giving us a taste of the Christmas Spirit all year. 

And what a year it has been..........
As I think of my great, great grandfather, who lies buried at Cold Harbor, so far from Massachusetts and 
his five little children, I can't help but wonder if the sacrifice that he, and others, made has been wasted on 
some of today's national leaders. Is honor, truthfulness and moral strength, no longer important? Did 
they die at Cold Harbor, so that the Nation -as it is today - could endure? Was it worth their sacrifice? 
Am I, and other Americans, standing strong for what those soldiers died for? Do many of us look for an 
easy way out of National crisis? Lots to think about as we count our blessings at this season and 
remember our forebears.

I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a shining New Year!
Sally

{{{Sally}}} Thank you ma'am for your Christmas wishes to the team.... I also thank you for the soul 
searching questions. Our stated purpose, I believed, included building and restoring some "wisdom" in 
ourselves from the discussions we have on this period in history. Write your congressmen and senators 
and anyone else that "Serves The People" and tell them what the "Silent Majority" thinks.... We've been 
silent long enough!!!!!
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From: AslanJ

Do y'all know if a Confederate Cemetery in Brandon FL has ever been inventoried or surveyed? My 
daughter found this cemetery and she and I plan to do the inventory in the next week if it is not already 
done. If we get it done, I will send the list to you and to John Rigdon for his Civil War site. 
Will let you know what we find.
Judy

{{Judy}} I'll post it in the newsletter to see if anyone knows. I don't know that answer....
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From: FAD33
Jim, this is in response to Jago6074's questions in the 10/25/98 Weekly Fireside, about the soldiers who 
served at Vicksburg during the Siege:

The only list that is available is the parole list taken after the surrender. You can write to the Vicksburg 
National Military Park in Vicksburg, MS and direct your questions to Terry Winchel. Terry is the 
historian and is extremely knowledgeable about all the actions, lists, and subsequent books written about 
the siege. If your kin served in that particular unit from Louisiana, Terry can find his name for you. In 
addition, there is a list at the Old Court House Museum of those who died in the hospitals during the siege 
and are buried, along with many unknown, in the Vicksburg City Cemetery at Soldiers' Rest. The Dept. 
of the Army finally sent the headstones of those that could be proven to have died during the siege and 
were buried there. A dear little old lady compiled the records from old funeral home books that were 
about to be destroyed!
Hope this helps you.
Frances

{{{Frances}}} Bless your heart! Thanks for the response. If I'd stay home more than two weeks a shot, 
I'd get this information out quicker...... 
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From: SouthUSA
Someone in SC Chat suggested I ask you for the words to the "Confederate Prayer". I cannot seem to 
locate it. If you do not have it, could you suggest some web sites where this might be found.
Patty

I have searched my inventory and I don't have a copy.... Does anyone out there have a copy of this ???? 
If you do let me know, please!
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From: PinkPJ1934

Thank you for a lovely letter. I look forward to getting and reading it.
I wish you, your family and all the people associated with this group a very healthy holiday filled with 
family unity, health, happiness and prosperity.
Most sincerely
Pinkpj1934 (Eleanor)

{{{Eleanor}}} Thank You!!!!
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From: PinkPJ1934

Thank You Jim
The weekly Fireside is always welcome and appreciated reading.
A question please. Does anyone know anything about a little civil war cemetery on Tubman Road just 
west of Lewiston Road in Appaling [that's near Martinez, and Augusta] Georgia?
I went to see it but could not find it. 
Most sincerely
Pinkpj1934

"Pink" - that location doesn't ring a bell, but we'll find out if anyone else does.... HEY YOU GEORGIA 
Folk.....! Can anyone help Pink out????????
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In response to Pink's question above:
From: MBrown2205

I'm a GA folk, but that's too far from metro Atlanta for me to be familiar. Bill Smedlund has written 
books re the Civil War. One of them is "Campfires of GA Troops" and it lists everywhere a unit camped. 
I'm not sure how to contact him, but he is in the metro area. Goes to the GA Archives a lot. He may 
know. Also Ken Thomas, the genealogist ghuru that writes to the Atlanta Journal/Constitution Sunday 
edition. He also is an employee of the State of GA Dept of Natural Resources and has historical sites as 
his project. He may know. You can contact him by going into the accessatlanta.com go to the paper and 
then you can get in touch by going to community I believe.

Pink and Mbrown: I've sent off an email to Susan Hardin of the Atlantic Journal/Constitution to see if we 
can dig up the referenced Ken Thomas. Keep your fingers crossed. Heh Heh!!
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From: MRB1330

J.A.Lumbard was my great grandfather. He was Publisher and Editor of a local newspaper in Selinsgrove 
PA for 55 years following the Civil War. If you would like to use this, you are welcome ... Peggy

Excerpts taken from a newspaper account (actually from his own diary) written by Joseph A. Lumbard 
who served with Co. G. 147th PA Vol. Inf.:

Christmas, 1862

Christmas in camp passed very quietly since nothing happened to make it appear different from an 
ordinary day in the war. The best treat that was given us was mail, containing numbers of letters from 
dear ones at home. In the evening we gathered about the camp-fires, and often smoked an occasional 
hard-tack at the fire. We compared the present with the past, and thought how differently we had passed 
our last Christmas from the present one; then we had plenty, surrounded by loving friends and the comfort 
of home. Now we were surrounded by hostile foes, and frequently suffering from the actual necessities of 
life. Situated as we were upon this bleak December night, with the wind whistling through the branches 
of the tall pines, and the waves of the Occoquan madly dashing upon the rock-bound shore, as if 
endeavoring to disobey the Divine injunction, "thus far shalt thou come and no further, here shall thy 
proud waves be stayed," all combined to make the contrast more marked. Nothin of any importance 
transpired to mar the monotony of camp-life, and the same hum-drum events continued to transpire each 
day of our stay at Occoquan

On the evening of the 30th of December the usual monotony was interrupted by the announcement that we 
were to move forward to join the rest of the Brigade, then encamped at the ancient town of Dumfries, 
Prince William County, the following morning.

The order came at an evil time, we were out of rations, having consumed almost the last particle of food 
for the supper just dispatched. However, having learned by actual experience that we might just as well 
acquiesce quietly, as no action that we were able to take would bring us rations or cause a general order to 
be countermanded, so we retired to our tents in order to secure the necessary rest and refreshment for the 
march on the morrow.

In the morning we were awakened by the timely beating of the sheep skin battery which called us forth for 
roll call and duty. We managed to raise sufficient coffee to give each member of the company a cup, 
which constituted the principal part of the day's diet unless we would be served with rations during the 
day, which we were informed was very probable.

During the night a slight fall of snow had fallen, covering the earth to the depth of several inches, but 
which as soon as the sun put in an appearance it began to melt, making a disagreeable slush and causing 
the marching to be unpleasant. By the time that the sun had faily gilded the heaven's dome with its light 
the command was marching, moving in the direction of Dumfries, traveling over the ground for the third 
time in as many weeks. We moved along smartly, the officers anxious to get us to our journey's end. We 
did not halt for dinner, but moved right along, Colonel Pardee having evidently learned of the condition of 
our haversacks.

We reached Dumfries at about 3 o'clock p.m., having marched 17 miles carrying fully forty pounds, with 
a mout full of victuals, save the cup of coffee which we had scraped together in the morning before we left 
camp.

When we reached the place designated as our camping place, which was in the midst of a brushy pine 
thicket, we were almost exhausted, a number of the boys threw themselves upon the ground without 
removing knapsacks or their accouterments.

Those who were present well remember the pangs of hunger we suffered on the occasion narrated above, 
and how we endeavored to satisfy the cravings of hunger by picking up the corn that had been dropped by 
the cavalry hourses while feeding there at some previous time, and how greedily we devoured the bits of 
hard-tack and scraps of meat which had been left scattered around by rebel troops encamped there earlier 
in the winter, and which were in a bad state of preservation. 
Well do we remember poor Asa B. Churchill who had been to the wagon train and cabbaged a pot of 
wagon grease, in which he fried some corn, but the mess was too much for even HIS stomach and he was 
reluctantly compelled to give back his supper.

{{{Peggy}}} Perfect Christmas story. Thanks for sharing....
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